The German army is discussing attacks on the Crimean bridge

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BTW, I’m a Boomer so let it flow. I well remember Ukraine 2014 and earlier as well as Libya and Qaddafi.
I also remember his speech to the UN.

If it was not for Western influence starting over a decade ago in the very, very corrupt Ukraine, maybe Russia would have kept to themselves?!?

worldstarcountry speaks facts, the same ones I remember and I remember a lot more that follows his track as well. ^5

That’s my $0.02
Have a good night everyone!
I’m done and out.
Continue as you will.



a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Loose lips sink ships.

Good job, Journalism.

Now the Russians can plan for such a contingency.

It's not like they don't have access to the internet, ya reporting dimwit.

Hope you enjoy a neverending conflict, you're part of the damned problem.

Idiots everywhere.

Present company excluded, of course.

Apologies if this has already been covered, just tossing in my reactionary two cents, didn't have time to read all replies.

*sigh*

Full recording of negotiations published

vk.com...

In Germany, the authenticity of the recording was recognized, where the German military discussed the attack on the Crimean bridge.
Spiegel reported that this is not a cut, not a fake, not a neural network.

A recording of a conversation between high-ranking German army officers about the attack on the Crimean Bridge is being distributed among the military in the Bundeswehr, who consider it authentic, reports the German publication Welt.

Bild wrote that much in the recording of the previously circulated conversation indicates its authenticity.

“The audio recording is also circulating in the Bundeswehr, and several soldiers in a conversation with Welt stated that it is authentic.”

“There are many reasons to believe that the recording is genuine. It can be assumed that the room was bugged, the phone was compromised, or he [the German officer] dialed the number through an unsecured network,” writes Bild. The tabloid article suggests that the recording could have been made in Singapore, where one of the participants in the conversation was staying.

The German Ministry of Defense has begun an investigation into the possible interception of communications between Air Force representatives by Russian intelligence. The DPA agency reported this on Friday, citing a representative of the military department.

"The Federal Office for Military Counterintelligence (MAD) has taken all necessary measures,"

I note that only the interception of information is discussed, and not the information itself.

The State Duma proposed recognizing Germany as a terrorist state, “with all the ensuing consequences”

The author of the initiative was the First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense Alexei Zhuravlev (chairman of the Rodina party, member of the Central Headquarters of the All-Russian Popular Front, member of the Union of Donbass Volunteers):

“I personally encountered the Polish military on the line of combat contact, and even had to deal with their sabotage and reconnaissance group. There is no doubt that the French, Germans, and Americans are fighting on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but in this case we are talking about several other things. High-ranking generals of the Bundeswehr they are planning a terrorist attack on Russian territory, and without hesitation, they are also discussing how to prevent Germany from being suspected of involvement. It is mentioned that the USA and Great Britain have long been involved in the conflict up to their ears, but the Germans would like to be “a little pregnant” ", that is, to kill Russian people, but so as not to be known as murderers to the whole world. I hasten to disappoint the heirs of the Wehrmacht - they will go down in history as people who once again sided with Nazism. There are already enough of their tanks and instructors for the new Nuremberg Tribunal, and attempts to blow up the Crimean Bridge may result in the fall of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin. But previous attempts to attack the Crimean Bridge probably could not have been done without the participation of foreign specialists. And if you carefully examine the accident at the Nord Stream at the bottom of the Baltic, everything there indicates that an international criminal consortium was working, which included the United States and Norway. The West will stop at nothing to harm Russia—this is not surprising. It’s just that for some reason Germany is trying to pretend that it is removed from the conflict, but in reality, it turns out, it is secretly planning attacks on Russian strategic infrastructure. Moreover, let me remind you that thousands of tourists move across the Crimean Bridge every day, and it was civilians who died when they tried to blow it up the previous time. Therefore, I propose, on the basis of existing evidence, to consider the issue of recognizing the Federal Republic of Germany as a terrorist country, with all the consequences arising from this formulation."

There were also proposals to sever diplomatic relations with Germany.

Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Vyacheslav Volodin also reacted to the publication of a recording of a conversation between Bundeswehr soldiers.

“The information that has appeared with recordings of discussions by high-ranking German officers about plans to strike the Crimean Bridge - the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as how to do this so that suspicion does not fall on German Chancellor Scholz, deserves the most serious discussion and response.
In this regard:
📌 After the deputies return from the regions where they are until March 11, we will hear this issue at a meeting of the State Duma.
📌 I also think it is right to send a demand to the Bundestag to conduct an investigation.
The fact that the conversation was recorded obliges the German leadership to give an explanation:
1. What decisions of the Federal Republic of Germany guided the professional military of the Bundeswehr when discussing plans to strike the Russian Federation?
2. Will they be punished? And which one?
3. Do members of the Bundestag know about what happened?
4. Does Scholz understand that these actions will require Russia to retaliate?

Member of the Russian State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption Mikhail Sheremet (who 10 years ago commanded the Crimean People's Militia) in an interview with RIA Novosti stated: “All participants in the conversation in the published audio recording should be put on the international wanted list and included in the list of terrorists.”

a reply to: RussianTroll

Here is the Bild article



Russians listen in on secret conversations between German generals

In the recording you can hear the four Bundeswehr officers discussing the capabilities of the Taurus cruise missile - apparently in preparation for a federal government briefing. They talk about what challenges there would be for delivery to Ukraine.

Explosive: The four officers do not assume that German soldiers would necessarily have to be sent to Ukraine for this. But that is exactly what Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz (65, SPD) has repeatedly cited as a reason to justify his “no” to a Taurus delivery.

And: The officers also suggest ways in which Taurus rockets could be used in Ukraine even without specific target data transmission by the Bundeswehr. Background: Scholz had suggested that this targeting would turn Germany into a warring party.

The officers discuss the training for the Ukrainian pilots and other technical details such as carrier systems. There are also various targets that the Ukrainians could attack with the Taurus - including the Kerch (or Crimean) Bridge, an important supply route for Russian-occupied Crimea.

Russian propaganda then lies around these mind games: German officers were planning the attack on the Crimean Bridge. In fact, the recording only discusses the goals that the officers suspect are obvious to the Ukrainians.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I called my friends in Germany via WhatsApp.
They are shocked, especially by the consequences. They told me that in Germany ordinary people believe that the leak of information to the Russians was carried out by Great Britain as revenge on Scholz for the fact that a couple of days ago he publicly disclosed the facts of direct participation of Great Britain in the conflict in Ukraine. He foolishly or deliberately disclosed secret information.

My friends are former military men and now retirees. One is a former border guard, the other is a Navy Special Forces diver.

a reply to: RussianTroll

They told me that in Germany ordinary people believe that the leak of information to the Russians was carried out by Great Britain....

More rabid, anti-British paranoia RT.
You really do seem to becoming quite obsessed with us.

Honestly mate, its not healthy for the mind or the soul.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I see you're not going to address the fact that what has been revealed actually contradicts your OP statement?

Carry on. I know you fancy yourself a troll but I thought, foolishly, that you'd be more of a challenge.

a reply to: twistedpuppy

denying the obvious to the end is in the style of the Anglo-Saxons)))
Everyone has already admitted it, but here you are again trying to use my identity, clearly violating the ATS Rules,

a reply to: RussianTroll

The obvious thing is that you stated in your original post that the Germans plotted to blow up the bridge in Crimea and put the blame on someone else. The video and the transcript revealed that they were only talking about training Ukrainians to use the missiles. And on condition that Sholz gives his consent, which he didn't.

It was clealy said that the Ukrainians were supposed to choose the targets by themselves and strike them using the maps provided to them by the German military.

So why did you claim that the Germans were to blow up the bridge themselves?

a reply to: twistedpuppy

The Houthis from the Ansar Allah movement ruling in northern Yemen, which controls most of the Yemeni Red Sea coast, intend to attack US and British warships with new types of weapons, as well as expand their area of operations beyond the Gulf of Aden in the Arabian Sea. This was reported by the Lebanese daily newspaper Al-Akhbar.

It appears that the Houthis have already begun to receive modern weapons from Russia and Iran. All claims for sunken ships, downed planes, etc. - to the Houthis))))

On February 29, the leaders of almost all Palestinian forces flew to Moscow - Fatah, Hamas, Third Way, Al-Mustuqbal, Popular Struggle Front and 10 other smaller groups.

They were received with respect, decorum, culture and in the best traditions of diplomacy. Israel immediately became hysterical.

And this is just the beginning.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Gez a shout when your "Houthis" manage to take out what was supposed to be a state-of-the-art guided missile cruiser like the Moskva or large landing craft like the Tsezar Kunikov which cannot be replaced.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: RussianTroll

Here is the Bild article

Russians listen in on secret conversations between German generals

In the recording you can hear the four Bundeswehr officers discussing the capabilities of the Taurus cruise missile - apparently in preparation for a federal government briefing. They talk about what challenges there would be for delivery to Ukraine.

Explosive: The four officers do not assume that German soldiers would necessarily have to be sent to Ukraine for this. But that is exactly what Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz (65, SPD) has repeatedly cited as a reason to justify his “no” to a Taurus delivery.

And: The officers also suggest ways in which Taurus rockets could be used in Ukraine even without specific target data transmission by the Bundeswehr. Background: Scholz had suggested that this targeting would turn Germany into a warring party.

The officers discuss the training for the Ukrainian pilots and other technical details such as carrier systems. There are also various targets that the Ukrainians could attack with the Taurus - including the Kerch (or Crimean) Bridge, an important supply route for Russian-occupied Crimea.

Russian propaganda then lies around these mind games: German officers were planning the attack on the Crimean Bridge. In fact, the recording only discusses the goals that the officers suspect are obvious to the Ukrainians.

Oh what a surprise. Not what Troll claimed at all.

But obviously it's the British behind it all - because we're the only people on the planet who are allowed to be portrayed as the villains these days without throwing a prissy fit. We're responsible for everything

btw did you like the way we made that volcano erupt in Iceland recently? We could do that to Moscow as well you know

originally posted by: twistedpuppy


So why did you claim that the Germans were to blow up the bridge themselves?

Because he's a troll, and that's what trolls do - spread disinformation and lies for fun

If RT told me it'll rain in England next weekend I'd throw away my umbrella and stock up on sun cream!

a reply to: WaESN

Suddenly, a North Korean satellite will fall into the Yellowstone volcano)))

a reply to: RussianTroll

It would need to be an immensely heavy satellite traveling at quite the velocity to set off a supervolcano.

And you do realise that typical satellites re-entering the Earth's atmosphere break apart and burn up due to friction.

Meaning only a small fraction of the satellite's mass would survive to reach the surface.

Probably not all the same considering science and physics is not exactly your strong point.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Suddenly, an Iranian satellite accidentally falls on Porton Down, and all the bacteriological weapons scatter throughout England.

both North Korea and Iran will declare that they have nothing to do with it, and their satellites were affected by completely unknown electronic warfare.)))

a reply to: RussianTroll

Russian Troll, for goodness's sake, answer the damn question at last.

Why did you accuse Germans of trying to blow up the bridge in Crimea?

Will you answer it?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Suddenly, an Iranian satellite accidentally falls on Port Down, and all the bacteriological weapons are scattered throughout England.

Again simply not how satellites striking the Earth happen, or anything reminiscent of the sort.

And I hate to break it to you RT but satellites don't suddenly do anything never mind fall out of orbit.

As these things take time to occur, and are predictable.

both North Korea and Iran will declare that they have nothing to do with it, and their satellites were affected by completely unknown electronic warfare.)))

So magic speculative Russian weapons that don't exist yet again?

Scrapping the bottom of that big Russian propaganda barrel again methinks.

Anyhoo, and as usual, freedom to Ukraine and down with Putin's Russian scum invaders.

originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: RussianTroll

Russian Troll, for goodness's sake, answer the damn question at last.

Why did you accuse Germans of trying to blow up the bridge in Crimea?

Will you answer it?

Listen to the recording again carefully and you will understand everything yourself. I have already written both the translation and the recording itself. Don’t consider yourself smarter than heads of state))))

By the way, the State Duma of Russia will consider the issue of denunciation of the 1990 German Unification Treaty, the so-called “Zwei-plus-Vier-Vertrag”, due to obvious violations of the provisions of the Treaty by Germany.

Germany legally immediately becomes an illegitimate entity)))