Hind Rajab, 6, found dead in Gaza days after phone calls for help

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

West Bank does not belong to Israel.

Ok. And Isreal has the power to fight a group that wants to kill “Jews”.

a reply to: Lazy88

So the Palestinians have the right to fight a group that wants to kill them?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

So the Palestinians have the right to fight a group that wants to kill them?

Quote where I posted that. Israel has a right to defend itself from the West Bank that has multiple militant groups that oppose the Palestinian Authority backed by Hamas, have no desire for peaceful coexistence, and actively seeks to arm with the purpose to kill Jews.

a reply to: Lazy88

Once again, the (broken) link you posted was about an attack on an illegal Israeli settlement. Do the citizens of West Bank not have the right to to defend their land from invaders?

a reply to: Threadbarer

What do you not get. Israel would have liked to coexist. Large groups of Palestinians have made this about arming with the only purpose to kill Jews at the expense of the wellbeing of the common Palestinian. Large groups in the Palestinian world have acted with violence that has increasingly made this about who will survive, not about the pursuit of peace.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

Once again, the (broken) link you posted was about an attack on an illegal Israeli settlement. Do the citizens of West Bank not have the right to to defend their land from invaders?

This isn’t about coexistence. This is about large portions of Palestinians making it about cleaning the world of “Jews”.

a reply to: Lazy88

If Israel would like to coexist, why are they the ones not complying with the treaty they have with West Bank?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

West Bank doesn't have a military. Their part of the treaty with Israel was demilitarization.

www.i24news.tv... settlement-report#

Shrugs

a reply to: Lazy88

Once again, do the citizens of West Bank not have the right to defend themselves from invaders that are illegally stealing their land?

Why does Israel only have the right to self-defense?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

Once again, do the citizens of West Bank not have the right to defend themselves from invaders that are illegally stealing their land?

Why does Israel only have the right to self-defense?

What do not you get. Palestinians have lost that right when they make it about the survival of Israel.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Let’s be perfectly clean when I mean Isreal. We are referring to the desire of large groups of Palestinians that desire to exterminate Jews.

a reply to: Lazy88

So does Israel lose the right because they're intent on removing Palestinians from the region.

West Bank was more than willing to coexist with Israel. They gave up their military. They let their territory be policed by the IDF. All they asked in return is to let them have their land.

Israel couldn't adhere to that basic request.

Any attacks on Israeli settlements in West Bank are solely the fault of Israel.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

So does Israel lose the right because they're intent on removing Palestinians from the region.

Isreal has the right to defend itself from a large group that lies this is about land, where their real goal is to exterminate Jews. There is no shared wish of coexistence that Isreal would have liked.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

West Bank was more than willing to coexist with Israel.

And yet large groups in the West Bank decided to align with Hamas and be armed by Hamas with the goal of killing Jews.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

They gave up their military.

And large portions of the West Bank decided to arm themselves.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

They let their territory be policed by the IDF.

How true is that? To what extent.

So. What happened between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas?

And like to cover the Palestinian Authority and how it deals with the influx of Hamas weapons?

So, who is disarmed?

originally posted by: Threadbarer

All they asked in return is to let them have their land.

Then why the struggle with Hamas? Added. And why the violent take over of Gaza by Hamas ending the Palestinian Authority in Gaza.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

Israel couldn't adhere to that basic request.

Or is it coexistence is broken by the militant actions of Hamas and their goals of killing “Jews” where they never desired peace.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

Any attacks on Israeli settlements in West Bank are solely the fault of Israel.

No. Hamas has made this about who will survive.

a reply to: Lazy88

Hamas does not govern West Bank. They are in Gaza on the other side of the country.

How can you speak with such conviction on the issue when you don't even know the basic facts of the situation?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

Hamas does not govern West Bank.

Quote where I posted that. Is it false they are arming groups in the West Bank.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

They are in Gaza on the other side of the country.

You ignored Hamas made “war” with fellow Palestinians and took over Gaza.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
How can you speak with such conviction on the issue when you don't even know the basic facts of the situation?

The fact there might have been peaceful coexistence before military Hamas took over, and started arming the West Bank.

a reply to: Lazy88

The first illegal settlement was founded in 1967. How can you blame Hamas for that?

a reply to: Threadbarer

How can you speak with such conviction on the issue when you don't even know the basic facts of the situation?

Probably due to a full fat diet of Propaganda washed down with bottle of coolaid.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

The first illegal settlement was founded in 1967. How can you blame Hamas for that?

Ok? Then there was an argument that established Gaza and the West Bank in a more firm context in a truce during / at the end of the PLO that could have been the start of peaceful coexistence. That was the land for peace deal. Is that false.

Militant Hamas gaining power, and its repeated attacks against citizens seems have killed the peace process.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Wasn’t there some war during that time?

a reply to: Lazy88

Israel never annexed West Bank following the Six-Day War. What they are doing is a belligerent occupation. Under the international law, Israel cannot establish any settlements in West Bank as it has no sovereignty over the territory.

In 1993 the Oslo Accords were signed, in which Israel agreed to cease the construction of settlements in West Bank. Since then, over 100 settlements and outposts have been established.

Once again, how can you blame Hamas for Israel violating international law and treaties signed by Israel when Israel has been doing it long before Hamas existed?