D.C. Court of Appeals made a horrible ruling against Trump

a reply to: network dude

Many Americans are needlessly dying due to Joe Biden keeping our border open.

Good grief. We're less than 12 months away from Biden's arrest on treason charges!

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: neoholographicpart2

but this illustrates why you can't say in order to get Trump, I'm going to reduce Presidential immunity to just this case.

They don’t care, as long as it gets Orange Man Bad.

I applaud you for trying but many others have tried and all have failed to get these hurt feelz cult members to understand facts.

Reversing the Liberal lobotomy is next to impossible.

Exactly!

You can't reduce blanket Presidential immunity to get Trump. I just find that disgusting.

The D.C. Court knows this and included the words "For the purposes of this case." You can't do that or you will have thousands of cases brought against Obama, Bush and Clinton and based on this ruling each case will have to be decided by each court. Blanket immunity for Presidents stops a gazillion lawsuits from being filed after they leave office and yes, this includes President Trump even if you have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: neoholographicpart2

wow, if Trump becomes president, and has his own DOJ, (and knowing that going after your political opponents is not only OK, it's the new normal) perhaps they would go after Obama for killing that American kid with a drone. Murder. I wonder if that's still a crime?

Usually not when a Commander-in-Chief makes a military decision that results in deaths. It's considered part of official duties. Like when Trump ordered that drone strike on Soleimani. The exception would be if the CIC wasn't abiding by the commonly accepted rules of war when the decision was made. That could be interpreted as an illegal order.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

No one is above the law.

Then why isn’t Biden being prosecuted for stealing classified material as a senator. Seems there still is presidential immunity if you are the right political leaning. Or willing to take orders from unelected interagency agencies.

a reply to: Boomer1947

I bet a few in the world would still like to get to Obama…

Despite Obama’s new executive order, U.S. drone policy may still violate international law

By Ben Jones
July 7, 2016 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

www.washingtonpost.com...< br /> W

a reply to: neoholographicpart2

The D.C. Court knows this and this is why they said "For the purpose of this case." What they have just done is reduce Presidential immunity to a case by case basis.

As it should be, and in fact, as it is, according to the DC Court of Appeals. I'm sure Trump will take this to SCOTUS. However, after skimming through the 57 page ruling, I think SCOTUS will uphold the lower court's ruling.

Personally, I'd rather see a deluge of frivolous lawsuit against a POTUS, former or sitting, than see one unrestrained POTUS who freely operates above the law, with impunity.

a reply to: Lazy88

Investigators have failed to show any kind of intent. Biden didn't pack the documents and there's no indication he even knew they were on his possession.

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Boomer1947

I bet a few in the world would still like to get to Obama…

Despite Obama’s new executive order, U.S. drone policy may still violate international law

By Ben Jones
July 7, 2016 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

www.washingtonpost.com...< br /> W

Yep and based on this ruling from the D.C. Courts all of these cases would have to be decided on a case by case basis. Blanket Presidential immunity stops thousands of these cases from being filed.

This is why the get Trump at all costs is so destructive. They're willing to break and bend the law to get Trump.

a reply to: Lazy88


If Hur decides that Biden coordinated the removal of classified docs on purpose and tried to hide them, he should be charged.

If it's determined that like Pence it was an oversight and all returned, I imagine he won't be charged.

Trump is being charged for retaining them after the government requested them back, obstructing their return and lying on the attestation about returning all of the requested docs. Not just having them.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Lazy88


I Biden coordinated the removal of classified docs on purpose and tried to hide them,

That’s been established. How else did he get them as Senator. Now you’re making it a conspiracy to cover up his crime. 😁

This will be withheld until after SCOTUS rules a long time from now 😃

Another red herring planned in the DNC back rooms 😀

a reply to: Lazy88

Ask any of the Senators since the 1980s who've had classified docs among their files.

The problem of maintaining classified documents extends beyond just presidents and vice presidents, the National Archives officials said. Mark Bradley, who directs the agency's Information Security Oversight Office, said that since 2010, his office has gotten more than 80 calls from libraries that have found classified information in papers belonging to members of Congress.

For example, Sen. Edmund Muskie, D-Maine — who left Congress in 1980 and was secretary of state in the last year of President Jimmy Carter's administration — included 98 classified documents when his papers were given to Bates College.

Link

a reply to: WingDingLuey

If SCOTUS chooses to rule on it, it will be on an expedited schedule.

a reply to: frogs453

Biden never had Presidential Immunity while a Senator or VP. 🤤

[puzzzzzzzzled]

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: WingDingLuey

If SCOTUS chooses to rule on it, it will be on an expedited schedule.

How positive are you? 😀

a reply to: frogs453

So. We are a banana republic with no equal application of the law.

Thanks for verifying.

I just know when I was in the military, if someone was caught taking even material classified as confidential back to the barracks in a military base to study for a test, that was considered stealing. And they were punished for it.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

where can we download the 57 page ruling?

a reply to: Lazy88

Again, Trump's charges are all related to him refusing to turning them over, obstructing turning them over, and lying that they all were turned over.

Please point to any of the others since the 80s who refused to do so, and we can discuss.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Lazy88

Ask any of the Senators since the 1980s who've had classified docs among their files.

The problem of maintaining classified documents extends beyond just presidents and vice presidents, the National Archives officials said. Mark Bradley, who directs the agency's Information Security Oversight Office, said that since 2010, his office has gotten more than 80 calls from libraries that have found classified information in papers belonging to members of Congress.

For example, Sen. Edmund Muskie, D-Maine — who left Congress in 1980 and was secretary of state in the last year of President Jimmy Carter's administration — included 98 classified documents when his papers were given to Bates College.

Link

You just proved your own hypocrisy and bias and your deflections are beyond comprehension.

Why should Trump be prosecuted for this when all of those people did it and never got prosecuted?
On top of the fact that those people didn’t have the power to declassify and Trump did?

Wait a second….let me guess……Orange Man Bad hurt many feelz.