We know what ‘foo fighters’ that buzzed Second World War pilots really were, say scientists

Good reply. It's good to see some science applied to some of this.a reply to: 0bserver1

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Here’s the full easier to read…PDF report on your link…..

Extraterrestrial Life in Space. Plasmas in the Thermosphere: UAP, Pre-Life, Fourth State of Matter click download full text pdf….it’s free!

The pictures are phenomenal

Very interesting indeed……

I don’t dismiss that plasmas could be thought of as possible lifeforms.

I’ve always said that our atmosphere and space could possibly contain jellyfish (for lack of a better comparison) like lifeforms ….not like the recent “jellyfish” in the military base vid….but as jellyfish type lifeforms that propel themselves and light up with self generated different lights and are different nebulas shapes.

Thx for the link….Plasma as lifeforms are very compelling now to me more so, than before.

The PDF …imo…is worth downloading and keeping.

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We DON'T know what they are. We think we know what they might be but it is conjecture albeit supported by science in theory only.

Beware of scientists that like to find possible explainations that science can barely explain, but fall into a catagory where it cannot be totally denied until proven. They can get fame and funding for that.

We have a number of examples like that, and I think Avi Loeb is one of them, but there are many more.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
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Here’s the full PDF report on your link…..

Extraterrestrial Life in Space. Plasmas in the Thermosphere: UAP, Pre-Life, Fourth State of Matter click download pdf….it’s free….X out of the pop up.

Thx for the link….Plasma as lifeforms are very compelling now to me more so, than before.

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Interesting learning indeed and isn't it mind boggling that we virtually know nothing about these atmospheric layers that meet the electromagnetic region of space and space weather.

According to the Plasma Lifeform theory…..this could be an example…




Hmmmm

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Fertile conditions for a different kind of life and breeding? 🤔😉

Perhaps we are no longer at the top of food chain after all as others have suggested.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: quintessentone

Fertile conditions for a different kind of life and breeding? 🤔😉

Perhaps we are no longer at the top of food chain after all as others have suggested.

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As with all things extraterrestrial without any evidence that will appease me, I'll keep an open yet skeptical mind. But we can certainly play with this a little.

If we believe the 'all' is our collective consciousness then the plasma lifeforms may be from our collective 'id'. Perhaps broken up and floating aimlessly in the thermosphere as we are.





Hmm.

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The possibilities are there to explore, I mean the gass giants hold to much questions of what actually has been living there all those billions of years ?

I remember many episodes from startrek where they encounter completely strange lifeforms so different from us but intelligent enough to communicate in one or other way?

Maybe a more advanced races use plasmas to gather information I mean the possibilities are endless.

It sure is an interesting scientific angle and research that is not first done by science and not the last either I guess

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Now a paper suggests the phenomena are in fact plasmas, or ionised gases, which are drawn to the electrical charge of aircraft, spacecraft and satellites.

I knew it. I pretty much figured this out when I heard about natural plasma and natural plasma fires.

I'm glad someone has done the research to prove it.

Plasmas explained

To make plasma, energy is needed to strip electrons from atoms. The energy can be of various forms – heat, electrical or light (ultraviolet light or intense visible light from a laser). With insufficient sustaining power, plasmas recombine into neutral gas.

Plasmas occur naturally but can also be artificially made. Naturally occurring plasmas can be Earth-based (terrestrial) or space-based (astrophysical). Artificial plasmas have been developed to service the needs of a wide range of fabricating, manufacturing and specialised coatings industries.

More Examples:

Here's an example of an artificial plasma that talks:

in the 1960's there was a big push to support 'plasma balls' as UFO's/Foo Fighters...but that explanation soon faded in the public eye

... heres aNews recycle being repeated

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I likes that consciousness-plasma thinking Q 👍🏼

Fight plasma with plasma….

I liked Leslie Neilsen better in Police Squad 😆

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
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I likes that consciousness-plasma thinking Q 👍🏼

Fight plasma with plasma….

I liked Leslie Neilsen better in Police Squad 😆

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See now so did I, we are slap stick people or British humor people or both.

If the plasma entities are us and we are the plasma entities then Leslie Nielsen has the right idea in this clip as it seems we are headed in that direction.

Source: plasma-based life

plasma-based life

Plasma-based life is hypothetical life based on what is sometimes called 'the fourth state of matter,' plasma. The possibility of such noncorporeal life is a common theme in science fiction and is often entertained, for example, in episodes of Star Trek.

However, it was given more credence by the announcement in September 2003 that physicists had succeeded in created blobs of plasma that can grow, replicate, and communicate, thus fulfilling most of the traditional requirements for biological cells. Lacking inherited material they cannot be described as alive, but the researchers believe these curious spheres may offer a radical new explanation for how life began.


The Companion in Star Trek

Most biologists believe living cells arose out of a complex and lengthy evolution of chemicals that took millions of years, beginning with simple molecules through amino acids, primitive proteins and finally forming an organized structure (see life, origin of). But if Mircea Sanduloviciu and his colleagues at Cuza University in Romania are right, the theory may have to be overhauled. They claim cell-like self-organization can occur in a few microseconds. The researchers studied environmental conditions similar to those that existed on Earth before life began, when the planet was enveloped in electric storms that caused plasmas to form in the atmosphere. They inserted two electrodes into a chamber containing a low-temperature plasma of argon – a gas in which some of the atoms have been split into electrons and charged ions. They applied a high voltage to the electrodes, producing an arc of energy that flew across the gap between them, like a miniature lightning strike.

Sanduloviciu says this electric spark caused a high concentration of ions and electrons to accumulate at the positively charged electrode, which spontaneously formed spheres. Each sphere had a boundary made up of two layers – an outer layer of negatively charged electrons and an inner layer of positively charged ions. Trapped inside the boundary was an inner nucleus of gas atoms. The amount of energy in the initial spark governed their size and life span. Sanduloviciu grew spheres from a few micrometers up to three centimeters in diameter. A distinct boundary layer that confines and separates an object from its environment is one of the four main criteria generally used to define living cells. Sanduloviciu decided to find out if his cells met the other criteria: the ability to replicate, to communicate information, and to metabolize and grow. He found that the spheres could replicate by splitting into two. Under the right conditions they also got bigger, taking up neutral argon atoms and splitting them into ions and electrons to replenish their boundary layers. Finally, they could communicate information by emitting electromagnetic energy, making the atoms within other spheres vibrate at a particular frequency. The spheres are not the only self-organizing systems to meet all of these requirements. But they are the first gaseous "cells". Sanduloviciu even thinks they could have been the first cells on Earth, arising within electric storms.

"The emergence of such spheres seems likely to be a prerequisite for biochemical evolution," he says.

This research raises the intriguing possibility that life throughout the universe could have a very much broader basis that normally recognized. If plasma-based life can arise naturally, places to look for it could include the outer layers or interiors of stars (see Sun, life in), planetary magnetospheres, HII regions, and even ball lightning.

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Now you’ve done it….I peed in my pantz and teared while laughing hard….

In the immortal words of Greta Thornburg……..”How Dare You!”

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What if plasma based life considered carbon based life a threat?

I'm sure the Jupiter Toy Company is just another one of those little details they'd rather everyone forgot.

My guess is the Pope Osbourne Angular Momentum Synthesis is the next memory hole'd redux.

originally posted by: quintessentone
If we believe the 'all' is our collective consciousness then the plasma lifeforms may be from our collective 'id'. Perhaps broken up and floating aimlessly in the thermosphere as we are.

Trelane’s parents……..

Consciousness Plasma?

In the dialogue (not in this gif) the lifeforms shown below mention the ability to create planets.


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Nice misleading “Toy” front name…for a real high tech research & development company.

Kind of harkens to “Unit 16” from the movie This Island Earth…

"Electronic Section, Unit 16." Joe assumed that was part of their supplier, but that is obviously not the case. Next day, "Unit 16" sends them a strange-looking parts catalog. It leads with a selection of bead condensers, like the ones they received, then with several versions of a device called an "interociter," and finally with a complete line of parts for this device. Cal suggests ordering every part listed, using the same channel through which they tried to order the condensers. Obviously "Unit 16," whoever they are, intercepted the condenser order, so they'll get this one.

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Puthoff literally standing on the "Shoulders" of giants.
If you haven't already- read up on Shoulders and his EVO (exotic vacuum objects)/EVP (exotic vacuum phenomena) then have a look at what the SAFIRE project are up to..

If you go through the members of the OG "forgetful UFO's are here" disclosure group: TTSA- historically there is a very definite investment/interests trend.

Edit : apologies MOD's- logged in on the account I used to get Jukidone back.
Wont happen again

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: quintessentone
If we believe the 'all' is our collective consciousness then the plasma lifeforms may be from our collective 'id'. Perhaps broken up and floating aimlessly in the thermosphere as we are.

Trelane’s parents……..

Consciousness Plasma?

In the dialogue (not in this gif) the lifeforms shown below mention the ability to create planets.

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Trelane's parents raised a narcissistic bratty egocentric (maybe sadistic, if given enough time given his way with humans) child and may have been part of the 'Q' continuum. No thanks. Wait, maybe the plasma lifeforms are us after all (back to my first theory).

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Think of flat world - a 2d world. If we stuck objects through the 2d space it would appear as a shape that distorts it’s shape and changes colors.

Now imagine an entity in a dimension higher than the one we live in. When it poked into/through our dimensions it would likely be weirdly shifting colors shapes.


Or maybe I’ve just not had enough sleep and only make sense in my confused brain.