About 1200 UNRWA Staffers Have Links to Hamas, Thousands More Closely Related

a reply to: Lazy88

HAMAS

“Hamas militants execute dog and set fire to Israeli house: video“

usacrime.com...

IDF

“Israeli soldier found a wounded dog in Gaza and gave him medical treatment.“

t.me...

We could go on and on about the differences but minds seem to be made up.

a reply to: FlyersFan

There are people that will just hate Jews and Israel.

They are everywhere.

Even on this site.

originally posted by: Lazy88
Did you ever answer how Isreal should defend itself from Hamas that sanctioned the murder, rape, and kidnapping of civilians on Oct. 7? Hamas that has launched tens of thousands of rockets into Isreal over the years. Hamas that has turned Gaza neighbours and civilian infrastructure into rocket manufacturing, storage, and rockets bases. Hamas that cowers in hospitals. Hamas that claimed an Isreal air strike killed 500 at a hospital that turned out to be a misfired rocket from Gaza.

"Hamas sanctioned rape"
Yeah yeah, we get it, they are demons etc, the usual copy pasted comment whenever you see the word "hamas" mentioned anywhere. Next thing you are going to claim they mutilated specific parts of their bodies but will provide zero proofs as usual. Maybe add in some beheading or cooking to the story as well Keep repeating the same narrative, maybe some people will eventually believe you if you repeat it enough times. Hell, maybe even you can believe it if you keep repeating it. Meanwhile, on the whole world wide web, not a single video or even an audio file can be found to backup any of those claims.

Also, what you call "murder" and "kidnapping" has been happening to palestinian civilians way before october 7, but of course those events for some reason either don't count or are forgotten instantly because they go against "israel is only defending itself" narrative. Hamas attacked thousands of israelis and killed them? Oh, what kind of bad, sick people they are! But what about the fact that israel has been killing and wounding thousands of civilians even before october 7? Oh wait my bad, I shouldn't have asked that because asking questions makes me an anti-semite

originally posted by: Lazy88
Hamas that claimed an Israeli air strike took out 70 civilians in a convoy that all evidence points to IED’s planted by Palestinian extremists.

Let me ask google who backed up hamas in the past. Oh, would you look at that, literally the first result is from timesofisrael and oh boy it doesn't look good for israel:
www.timesofisrael.com...
So, israel wasn't comfortable with whatever party came before hamas, and so they supported hamas against it and now they also don't want hamas too, after they used them to fight against the other party. This not only caused other party to lose authority, it also caused more division among palestinians as well. A win-win scenario for israel no matter how you look at it. And as a bonus(!), israel gets to do even more occupying as well. But what am I even saying!? Those innocent israeli "settlers" would never do something like that

a reply to: NanomachinesSon

Maybe add in some beheading or cooking to the story as well

There’s video of palestinians stuffing dead Israelis in the back of their truck.
What was that for?
Organ harvesting?
Maybe so they could have a ‘cold one’ after a long day of mass murder?

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: FlyersFan

www.c-span.org.../user-clip-monitor-palenstinian-helth-ministry-numbers

Footage from The Hague.

Explains how the fictional numbers are “parroted”.

Correction. In the post I indicated that this video was from The Hague court proceedings.

Not so. I linked the wrong page but the message is the some in this vid anyway.

originally posted by: Vermilion
What was that for?
Organ harvesting?

No, you are thinking of some other people.

The admission, by the former head of the country's forensic institute, followed a furious row prompted by a Swedish newspaper reporting that Israel was killing Palestinians in order to use their organs – a charge that Israel denied and called "antisemitic".
...
The Israeli military confirmed to the programme that the practice took place, but added: "This activity ended a decade ago and does not happen any longer."
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Israel demanded that Sweden condemn the Aftonbladet article, calling it an antisemitic "blood libel".

www.theguardian.com...
Funny how you bring that up whenever it suits your fantasies, eh

originally posted by: Vermilion
Maybe so they could have a ‘cold one’ after a long day of mass murder?

Or, hear me out, maybe they wanted to send a message, since they clearly recorded and uploaded it on purpose. And maybe that message was a warning to israel to not # around anymore
Lastly, if "rape" is the first thing that comes to your mind when you see a corpse, you are not healthy in the head.

a reply to: NanomachinesSon

Or, hear me out, maybe they wanted to send a message, since they clearly recorded and uploaded it on purpose.

It was from the kibbutz security cameras, not the palestinian GoPros.

Why make the effort to take the dead bodies?

a reply to: Vermilion

Some things they did were for the world to see.

Some things they did were not.

Hamas disabled security cameras.

hamasisisis.co...

originally posted by: NanomachinesSon

Or, hear me out, maybe they wanted to send a message, since they clearly recorded and uploaded it on purpose. And maybe that message was a warning to israel to not # around anymore

So? How did Oct 7th benefit Gaza which Hamas governs?

originally posted by: NanomachinesSon

Lastly, if "rape" is the first thing that comes to your mind when you see a corpse, you are not healthy in the head.

I didn’t dream Hamas, on top of the thousands of terror rockets launched into Israel over the years with no purpose other than to kill Jews, would sanction the direct targeting of civilians with murder, rape, torture, and kidnapping.

Now the world knows exactly what Hamas is.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: PrivateSquares
You don't happen to have anything substantial to back up your big lie, do you?

Lies? No. There are many articles available. Google is your friend.

Washington Post - UN Agency Faces ANOTHER Corruption Scandal

This summer, the top management of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) were accused of serious abuses of power, including sexual misconduct, nepotism, bullying and retaliation. Al Jazeera reported that the agency’s ethics department made these claims in a recent report.

The U.N. Office of Internal Oversight Services is investigating. This is not the first time that it has been called on to look into the agency. The Swiss, Dutch and Belgian governments have all suspended payments to UNRWA while the investigation is ongoing. Danny Ayalon, the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, has formally called on the international community to completely defund UNRWA.

The allegations, if true, violate U.N. standards and represent a significant breach of responsibility and trust. But beyond the immediate crisis, UNRWA has deeper structural flaws.

UNWRA Sex Crimes and Corruption at Highest Levels
UNWRA Antisemitism, Incitement, and Hate Prevalent In Classrooms
UNWRA Continues toSpread Hate and Incitement Propaganda
UNWRA Misuse of Funds to Incite Hate
UNRWA Textbooks Inciting Jihadi Violence
the UNRWA curriculum describes Jews as “impure and inherently treacherous” and teaches that murdering Israelis leads to glory and martyrdom
UNRWA Mismanagement and Antisemitism
UNRWA has been plagued for years by reports of mismanagement and of anti-Semitic content in the textbooks used by the agency in the school it administers.
Leaked Report UNRWA Misconduct, Mismanagement and WORSE

And there is so much more. Easily googled. Been there for years ...

What's up with Norway then, why do they insist on funding them?

What's up with Australia, Austria, Canada, Finland, Germany, Italy, Japan, The Netherlands, United Kingdom and the United States then, why do they insist on DEFUNDING them? US News

We're all Khamas now, are we not?

I have no idea what a Khama is and I don't care to know.

And who really thinks all that would be news to us? °"Gish-gallop"°! That's what my team of ghosts said, after carefully sorting through a reply you finished with a whataboutism to not answer my second question.

And it's because they are corrupt and directly involved in terrorism.
So no .. they aren't 'humanitarian relief'. Haven't been for many years.

You like paintings? Logic now dictates the facts for both of us, hence it wouldn't even be a personal snipe if anyone painted you a liar being called out.
We all know they did the humanitarian work, otherwise we wouldn't have such a number of humanitarians being killed by the indiscriminate bombing of schools and other UNRWA facilities. Your point is another test-balloon of sorts, and we all come across like monsters now. This is not a pipe.

Let's be honest for a brief moment, can we? The whole piece provided in the OP is a piece of trash. I would be surprised to still see Khamas connections with 1% of the staff when all this is more carefully vetted. But there wont be any humanitarian aid left to finance by the time all of this got refuted in detail, and everyone can go back to sell more weapons and death for freedom.

Film footage and photos available at the link.

UNWRA Has Been Teaching Palestinian Kids to Hate and Fight Israel for Decades

As an independent journalist who wanted to communicate the Palestinian passion for war, I engaged Arab TV reporters to film summer camps in and around UNRWA schools in Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Jerusalem for the last 15 years. What the UNRWA summer camps preach is hardly a message of peace and reconciliation. Instead, Palestinian children learn the art of guerrilla warfare.

These summer camps, financed by 67 nations, including America, through UNRWA donations, show fully armed children learning the art of kidnapping, throwing explosives, hijacking vehicles and invading Jewish collective farms. The youths’ UNRWA summer-camp experiences reinforced the violence taught in the Palestinian Authority school curriculum.

How did I get access to the textbooks? To get the curriculum, I met with Yasser Arafat, founding chairman of the PA. It’s hard for the Western mind to grasp how the PA leadership expresses pride for its lethal curriculum. He readily authorized our news and research agency to review the PA school texts UNRWA uses. We were granted access to more than 1,000 textbooks.

The article goes on to state what the independent journalist found in the text books that donation money pays for ... labeling all of Israel 'Palestine', praise for terrorists who attack/attacked Israel, denial of Jewish history in the area ... you know, the usual crap that is paid for by 'humanitarian relief' but in fact is just more incitement to terrorism.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Another factor that incites terrorism is the ‘Pay to Slay’ program.

“The Palestinian Authority (PA) tells foreign audiences that they oppose terrorism, yet they pay generous
rewards to Palestinians, and/or their families, who carry out bombings, stabbings and other attacks against
innocents in Israel. This has been labeled the “Pay for Slay” program. This has included the terrorists, or
their families, of those who have killed at least 69 American citizens.”
emetonline.org...

originally posted by: Vermilion
“The Palestinian Authority (PA) tells foreign audiences that they oppose terrorism, yet they pay generous
rewards to Palestinians, and/or their families, who carry out bombings, stabbings and other attacks against
innocents in Israel. This has been labeled the “Pay for Slay” program. This has included the terrorists, or
their families, of those who have killed at least 69 American citizens.”
emetonline.org...

Let's see who is behind this site aaaand it is israelis again. SHOCKING. And of course this is what they've written on homepage with big and bold fonts:
"Advocating for Informed
Middle East Policies
Pro-America. Pro-Israel. Pro-Truth. Proudly Non-Partisan"
So yeah, it is just another cause of "it has to be true because they said so".

originally posted by: Lazy88
So? How did Oct 7th benefit Gaza which Hamas governs?

What are you talking about? I don't remember claiming october 7 benefitted gaza.

originally posted by: Lazy88
I didn’t dream Hamas, on top of the thousands of terror rockets launched into Israel over the years with no purpose other than to kill Jews, would sanction the direct targeting of civilians with murder, rape, torture, and kidnapping.
Now the world knows exactly what Hamas is.

Can you please provide proofs for them "sanctioning rape". So the world will "know" for sure without trusting israeli "trust me bro" claims. I don't think you can do it. You can't prove it but you will claim it anyway. It is almost like you wanted it to happen. It is almost like you fantasize about it, so you can try to justify israeli crimes even more. And you know what? "murder,rape,torture,kidnapping" is all done by idf in the past, god knows if they are still doing it or not, but of course you won't mention that, they are the good guys after all, right

originally posted by: Vermilion
It was from the kibbutz security cameras, not the palestinian GoPros.
Why make the effort to take the dead bodies?

"There’s video of palestinians stuffing dead Israelis in the back of their truck."
This is what you've said and they are all recorded and uploaded by hamas members. The girl that was paraded around was even followed by another vehicle. Do you think that is recorded by "kibbutz security camera" too?

originally posted by: Vermilion
Why make the effort to take the dead bodies?

In my previous reply to you I've already told you why. Feel free to read.

originally posted by: Vermilion
Another factor that incites terrorism is the ‘Pay to Slay’ program.

I forgot about that. So after you said this I went and researched.
So yeah ... UNRWA has a link to the 'pay to slay' policy.

From 2021. It says an anticipated $150 million a year to UNRWA, but it was closer to $350 million a year.
US Senate Gov

“I am deeply troubled by recent decisions from the Biden Administration to turn a blind eye to behavior by the Palestinian Authority.

“In 2019, the Palestinian Authority provided $343 million to subsidize Pay to Slay attacks where terrorists and their families receive cash rewards for attacking Israelis and Americans. Instead of reforming and putting an end to these attacks, they have doubled down on their commitment to subsidizing terrorism.

“Despite this, the Biden Administration today announced it will resume support of the Palestinians by providing at least $150 million to UNRWA. When it comes to the Palestinians, UNRWA does little more than subsidize a corrupt regime and a status quo in the West Bank and in Jordan. UNRWA has been historically antagonistic to Israel and an impediment to peace.

“Additionally, recent decisions by the State Department to provide funding for projects in the West Bank come close to violating the provisions of the Taylor Force Act. As the author of the Taylor Force Act and the Ranking Member on the State and Foreign Operations Subcommittee, I fully expect a complete honoring of the letter and intent of the law.

From 2017
Foreign Affairs Committee House GOV

It is Palestinian law to reward Palestinian terrorists in Israeli jails with a monthly paycheck. Outrageously, the more violent the terrorist attack, the more the PA pays, with stipends ranging from $364 to $3,100 per month.

And the PA’s benefits for terrorists don’t stop there. It also, for example, guarantees jobs for terrorists imprisoned for more than five years. Additionally, the families of terrorists who die while carrying out an attack also receive monthly PA payments.

This perverse system is part of a larger problem that Israel faces — a deep-seated hatred nurtured by Palestinian leaders over many years in mosques, schools, newspapers and on TV. As one witness testified at a hearing I held, “‘Incitement’ is the term we usually use, but hatred is what we mean … teaching generations of Palestinians to hate Jews by demonizing and dehumanizing them.”

The Taylor Force Act restricts U.S. aid to the Palestinians unless they stop subsidizing terrorists. The Palestinians ignore this and pay the terrorists anyways, and Biden ignores the Taylor Force act, giving UNWRA a billion $$ over the past 3 years.

Congress Gov/ Bill 1164 / Taylor Force Act

Pay To Slay - Also more politically correctly called - Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund

As of July 2023, the Biden administration has been harshly criticized for resuming payments to the PA that have been used towards "pay to slay." Many commentators have also advised that any future payments to the PLO be conditioned on the complete cessation of funds going towards payments to murderers of Israeli or American civilians.[46] A lawsuit against Joe Biden and Antony Blinken was filed stating that the United States government funding such "pay to slay" terrorism is a violation of the Taylor Force Act passed during in 2018 during the Trump administration.[47] Some commentators allege that the Biden administration may circumvent the Taylor Force Act by merely claiming that the funds are being made in support of Palestinian "humanitarian aims." Critics argue that by claiming to give funds in support of "humanitarian assistance" the Biden administration is claiming a loophole that does not exist, and that the funds may still be redirected with ease towards "pay to slay" ends. Numerous commentators criticize how easily the PA is able to re-direct American funds once received from the United States, towards "pay to slay" programs. Also, critics allege that it is unlikely that the PA is going to use all of the money received from the American government for strictly "humanitarian" purposes, on the basis that the majority of funds within the PA budget already as of 2023 go towards "pay to slay" and not "other welfare programs, as reported by The Jerusalem Post, "The perverse incentive used by the PA is that the more gruesome and worse the attack, the more money the imprisoned 'martyr' and his family receive through the Palestinian Authority’s Martyrs Fund. The PA spends nearly $350 million per year on "pay for slay", but just $220 million for its other welfare programs for the rest of its citizens."[48]

Newsweek - Palestinian Authority Still Paying Terrorists - Pay to Slay

Lawsuit Against Biden admin - The Knew US Funds Aided Palestinian Terrorists - Pay to Slay

The lawsuit claims the Biden administration has transferred nearly half a billion American taxpayer dollars "to directly benefit and subsidize the Palestinian Authority" while admitting that the PA still operates its "Pay to Slay" program – which encourages terrorist attacks against persons living in and visiting the State of Israel.

From before October 7th Terrorist Attack
Endowment for Middle East Truth - PDF Pay to Slay Program Fact Sheet

The Palestinian Authority (PA) tells foreign audiences that they oppose terrorism, yet they pay generous rewards to Palestinians, and/or their families, who carry out bombings, stabbings and other attacks against innocents in Israel. This has been labeled the “Pay for Slay” program. This has included the terrorists, or their families, of those who have killed at least 69 American citizens. Because the U.S. provides aid to the PA, the U.S. is indirectly paying for this terrorism.

The U.S. provides three streams of money to the Palestinians. They are: 1) aid to UNRWA; 2) security aid to the PA; and 3) indirect economic aid to the PA. Technically, the U.S. no longer pays economic aid directly to the Palestinian Authority, because the U.S. was disturbed by the PA corruption and use of economic aid for terrorism. Instead, the U.S. gives two different sums: a) aid to USAID, which provides indirect funding for things the PA should be doing, like building roads, etc.; and b) direct payments to the creditors of the PA.

a reply to: NanomachinesSon

Your quote….
"There’s video of palestinians stuffing dead Israelis in the back of their truck." This is what you've said and they are all recorded and uploaded by hamas members.

Here’s video of palestinians snatching dead Israelis.
As I’ve said, it’s from the kibbutz security cameras.
hamasisisis.co...

As for the Pay to Slay program, are you saying it doesn’t exist?
Did you not know there is such a thing?
It’s a billion dollar business FYI.
Terrorism pays well if you’re willing to do it.
You’ll just support terrorism for free it seems.

originally posted by: Vermilion
Did you not know there is such a thing?

The whole world knows there is such a thing. The so called 'Palestinians' themselves openly say there is. Anyone who denies it exists is either uneducated or an idiot. Easily googled. Many sources talk about it, including the so called 'Palestinians' themselves. THIS is the pro 'Palestinian' website that explains Pay-to-Slay with their own rebranded title on it and their own spin on it.

originally posted by: Vermilion
You’ll just support terrorism for free it seems.

Yes, useful idiots in the west do it for free.

a reply to: Vermilion
"You’ll just support terrorism for free it seems."
Are you saying anyone who doesn't believe everything israel says are "supporting terrorism for free"?
As for the video, my mistake, I thought we were talking about the girl that was paraded around back of a truck.
My point still stands though, it is weird at best to think it was to "have a cold one".

"As for the Pay to Slay program, are you saying it doesn’t exist?"
It is the name israelis gave it. Something with that name doesn't exist.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
The so called 'Palestinians' themselves openly say there is. Anyone who denies it exists is either uneducated or an idiot. Easily googled. Many sources talk about it, including the so called 'Palestinians' themselves. THIS is the 'Palestinian' website that explains Pay-to-Slay with their own rebranded title on it and their own spin on it.

cjpme
Leaf logo.
[C]anadians for [J]ustice and [P]eace in the [M]iddle [E]ast
"palestinian website"
These so called "israeli" jews are getting crazy with their lies.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Yes, useful idiots in the west do it for free.

Wow, I didn't know openly insulting people were allowed in here. You wrote it even in your signature too? Neat. Useful idiots in the east are so useful at teaching me forum rules. The more I read your posts the more I understand your ideology is less based on facts and more based on your own version of "truth".

Biden refunded the Pay-to-Slay.
It's our tax money at work.

NY Post - Pay to Slay Example

This week brought the 20th anniversary of the Sbarro pizza-shop bombing in Jerusalem. Over those two decades, the Palestinian Authority’s “pay to slay” program has paid the seven terrorists who helped orchestrate the atrocity nearly $2 million.

On Aug. 9, 2001, suicide bomber Izz al-Din al-Masri nonchalantly ate a slice of pizza before blowing himself up, murdering 15 people — seven of them children, including US citizen Malki Roth — and wounding about 130 others. In the decades since, the PA has paid more than $53,000 to his family. The bomb maker, Abdullah Barghouti, has pocketed more than $213,000, while Tamimi has taken in $52,000.

Meanwhile, President Joe Biden has been OKing new funding for the Palestinian territories, effectively subsidizing the PA’s pay-to-slay program.