You May Have Amnesia

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Again, what was there to negotiate?

Should the US have negotiated with Japan after Pearl Harbour?

Why are you asking me? I'm not a Ukrainian nor Russian leader.


Did Russia attack your or our military port? I must have missed it......

a reply to: JinMI

NATO is a defensive alliance.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

NATO is a defensive alliance.

Actions > Words

a reply to: JinMI

I am asking you because you keep on about "negotiation",?

"Did Russia attack your or our military port? I must have missed it......"

Of course not.

Why even ask such an inane question?

a reply to: JinMI

Actions like a full scale invasion of Ukraine?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

I am asking you because you keep on about "negotiation",?

"Did Russia attack your or our military port? I must have missed it......"

Of course not.

Why even ask suchan inane question?

You are saying no negotiations are possible, like Boris Johnson did. Problem is, that requires an act of clairvoyance....

I ask the inane question because you compared it to Pearl Harbor....or did you forget?

Actions like a full scale invasion of Ukraine?

When did Ukraine become a NATO nation again?

a reply to: JinMI

"When did Ukraine become a NATO nation again?"

Another inane question?

Obviously, it didn't. Why ask?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

"When did Ukraine become a NATO nation again?"

Another inane question?

Obviously, it didn't. Why ask?

The inane questions are a response to your inane assertions. I guess my attempt at dry Brit humor is lacking....

a reply to: JinMI

Very lacking, obviously.

So, what was there to negotiate?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Very lacking, obviously.

So, what was there to negotiate?

A question that should have been answered before bodies began hitting the floor Carp.

a reply to: JinMI

Well, with the benefit of hindsight, can you now try to answer my question?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Well, with the benefit of hindsight, can you now try to answer my question?

The dead don't get that benefit.



That is the entire point.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

UK "warmongers"?

If we had not backed Ukraine, against an actual proper warmonger, many Ukrainians would be living under Putin's dictatorship and he would have had a green light to set his sights on other former Soviet vassal states to reestablish his beloved old late and unlamented Soviet Union.

If we had an actual Leader in Office Ukraine would have never happened .

If the USA wasn't a listless ship at the moment the world wouldn't be on the brink of WW3 but yes by all means continue with you're Political Talking points.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Fair enough. But I was talking about the UK?

Amnesia is a decent smoke these days I have dementia that sucks but I am still more with it than Joe Biden

a reply to: JinMI

Yet you and I are alive, so why can't you answer a simple question?

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

You just made a Political Talking point, yourself?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JinMI

Yet you and I are alive, so why can't you answer a simple question?

Because my position is that the talks should have happened long before there were dead civilians and soldiers.


Your "simple question" is predicated on vapid assumptions like could, would and may have.

The intellectual dishonesty leaps you've made like comparing to Pearl Harbor and a "full scale invasion" are proof of this.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

You just made a Political Talking point, yourself?

Fair enough I suppose I did , but it is more over a broad generalization that I'm pointing out . Everything we are debating in this OP could have been prevented if our leader had a spine.

a reply to: JinMI

No. My question was not based on any such thing but I grow tired of trying to nail jelly to the ceiling.

Carpy has left the building.

Feel free to have the last word.