Congress Spends More on Military than on Domestic Needs - WTF is Wrong With Them.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Do you have data to counter their number?

Well manufacturing is about 2.3 trillion a year so 60% would be about 1.4 trillion.

US defence industry is about 650 billion according to this.

www.mordorintelligence.com...

As a sanity check US defence spending is about 800 billion so even is 100% of that was on new equipment (and pretty sure we pay people in the military) then you still need around 600 billion in overseas sales. Most sources I can find put it around 230 billion.


Eta sorry link playing up but if you copy to browser should work.

Now they are installing Solar Panels at the Pentagon.
Another Biden Genius Idea.
This is the kind of Genius that Dems Voted for.
Go ahead and Vote the Moron in Charge back in and see how much more Stupid
we can Handle.

a reply to: WeMustCare

a reply to: WeMustCare

If you haven't realized it already, one day, you will. This government does NOT work for us, we the people.
One of these days, you are going to realize that the passage of the 16th amendment marks the day this government turned away from serving the people and started using us as a cash cow to fund the priorities and objectives of the Shadow Government.
The passage of the 16th amendment marks a black day in the history of this nation in that it enslaved every citizen of this nation to the will of the government. We are now no better off than the plantation slaves were before slavery was abolished. The Shadow Government, and their enablers we supposedly elected to represent us in Washington DC, through direct taxation, have so enslaved us all that there is no hope to throw off the bonds that now enslave us all. The 16th amendment did this to us.

I read a Paul Craig Roberts post yesterday that perfectly explains our slavery better than I can. He knows what the 16th amendment did for/to us, we the people.

Posted in it's entirety for your convenience.

Americans Enslaved Themselves to the State When They Accepted the Income Tax

It was not until 1913, 137 years after the Declaration of Independence established a free people who are no longer free, that there was an income tax. Years ago I researched and wrote the story of how it happened. It exists somewhere in print. In the old analogue, library card file days, it would have been easy to find. The income tax required a Constitutional Amendment. I remember some of the story. What I remember is this:

The threshold for being subject to income tax was high, and the first rate was 1%. The Georgia legislature voted to ratify the amendment because as one legislative leader concluded, “there’s no one in Georgia with an income high enough to be subject to the tax. Let the Yankees tax themselves. Why should we object.”

There was no vision of the future. 1913 was also the year that the Federal Reserve, with its policy of depression, inflation, recession, and inflation, was established and unleashed on America, and it was also the year that World War I and its inflation was about to be launched by the French, Russian, and British Governments. War and inflation quickly brought income tax home to insouciant Americans who thought they were exempt.

In 1963 prior to the Kennedy tax rate reductions the top tax rate was 91% on incomes above $200,000. Kennedy left it at 70%. Reagan left it at 50%. Today it is 39.6%, or with rounding 40%

The highest medieval tax rate on serfs was 30%. Anything higher and they revolted and killed the feudal lords. 50% was the highest tax rate on cotton plantation slaves. The other 50% of their work went for their food, clothing, shelter, and medical care.

What is indisputable is that for more than a hundred years the tax rate on American citizens has been higher or equal to the tax rate on medieval serfs and 19th century plantation slaves.

What does this mean?

It means that Americans and the entirety of Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders are slaves in the same sense that blacks were slaves on southern cotton plantations.

The historical fact is that a free person is a person who owns his own labor. Just as a slave does not own his own labor, neither does any person who is subject to income tax.

In the anti-South propaganda in the 19th century, such as the propagandistic “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” southern slave owners are portrayed unrealistically as demoralizing their work force and destroying their capital investments in human labor by demoralizing and alienating their slaves by separating families and whipping, beating, and raping their work force.

A slave was expensive. To abuse him or her is the equivalent of abusing an expensive piece of machinery. It makes no sense for an owner to abuse his own resources. Yet southern planation owners are portrayed as people who ran torture prisons.

Neither the South nor the United States are responsible for black slaves in America. The slaves that came to the New World came from the Black Kingdom of Dahomey’s slave wars. The captured slaves were carried to the New World in ships often financed by Jews. The southern plantations were not responsible for the origin of their work force. Indeed, it was an inherited institution.

For decades as April 15 approached, I pointed out that it is today’s white people who pay the income taxes who are the real victims of slavery. Even after the Reagan marginal tax rate reductions, Americans pay a higher rate of tax, that is, they are more enslaved, than medieval serfs and are almost exploited by “their government” to the same extent as 19th century black slaves.

So what is “white privilege”? It is to be a slave owned by Washington, used to support privileged people of color, including millions of immigrant-invaders settled by Democrats on American slaves who pay for their upkeep?

A “free American” has ceased to exist. Such an American predates 1913.

The American liberal-left doesn’t mind being enslaved to a good cause–the coercive use of American citizens to support causes that the people reject, such as the normalization of sexual perversion, the genocide of the Palestinians, the demonization of white people, the use of the “justice system” to destroy ideological and political opponents.

Today the insouciant American people are enslaved for causes that are to their detriment, unlike the plantation’s agenda of growing cotton. The American people voluntarily accepted slavery, because they thought it would apply to others–the rich. But as multi-billionaire Warren Buffet has said, his secretary pays a higher tax rate than he does.

Today slavery is much more widespread and efficient than it was in the 18th and 19th centuries. Today all over the world everyone who is employed has to supply a percentage of their labor to the state. In the 18th and 19th centuries, to acquire a slave’s labor required a large capital outlay to purchase a slave from his captor or from a middleman who purchased the slave for resale. Today the state doesn’t have to purchase the provider of the labor it confiscates. The state simply imposes an income tax. In the case of the democracies, the gullible publics voted themselves into slavery in order for the state to serve the public good.

In the 18th and 19th centuries slave owners had a large percentage of their wealth in their labor force. For the labor force to have good morale and be productive, the slaves had to be well treated. “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” is a propaganda tract. Whippings, rapes, and breakup of families would undermine labor productivity and the planter’s profits. There are always some self-destructive people, but abuse of one’s investment property is not a general rule.

Today there is no such constraint on the state and punishments for non-performance are much worst. The state imprisons you and confiscates all of your labor. A person in a prison cell for income tax evasion is far less free than a slave on a plantation who gets a whipping. Which would you prefer?

It is extraordinary that today freedom is measured in terms of restraints on behavior, whereas the historical definition of freedom is a person who owns his own labor. Free labor was labor free from the claims of others on it.

Paul Craig Roberts

a reply to: charlest2

The captured slaves were carried to the New World in ships often financed by Jews. The southern plantations were not responsible for the origin of their work force.

So not the actual slave owners fault, it was those damn jews again.

Antisemitism and lost cost apologetics in the same paragraph. Impressive.

a reply to: BedevereTheWise

One plight of humanity is that we must "Suffer The Fools Of This World".

I'll also post this video for your viewing pleasure. This guy isn't as stupid as he looks. He hammers, condemns the crap out of the WEF, the shadow government, in this speech.

Argentinian President Milei Goes SCORCHED-EARTH At World Economic Forum with FLAMETHROWER Speech
Start at 7:02

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

One plight of humanity is that we must "Suffer The Fools Of This World".

I think we all suffered a little from your previous post.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Dandandat3

AS of 2022, the US had roughly 1.4 million active service members between all branches

In a 2021 report, the US military had roughly 250,000 contractors

Per the Global Times, as of 2021, roughly 60% of US manufacturing was military.

Good stats; - thank you


but for the contractors question you need to also include employees at companies that fill government contracts (ie boeing, LM and ect). Not just the contractors that work directly for the government.

I find myself agreeing with you so often WMC that I'm taken aback when I don't.
Not that there's a single thing wrong with disagreeing or agreeing or anything in between. I just find that our opinions on things tend to align more often than not.

Personally, I want it this way. I want a metric f**k ton of money spent on defense. I firmly believe that one of the few true necessary functions of government is to raise and maintain the military and the absolute best deterrent for those who would consider fu**ing around is to make it very clear that the finding out part won't be a pleasant experience or a level playing field. That isn't to say that I think there's nothing to be done with regards to managing how they spend that money(life has many doors alpha-fed bois). I want less and less and eventually zero federal funds getting involved in our every day lives. No federal funds in schools, healthcare, etc etc.

That's just me though.

a reply to: Dandandat3

Are we only looking at DOD contractors or also into DOE contractors as well that their end customer is the Us military?

a reply to: BedevereTheWise
I'm surprised you could even see to read the post considering you have so much sand in your eyes.

I especially like this short video.
LOL!

a reply to: Boomer1947

It's not our spending that I have a problem with. I can often make a little money myself from defense related stocks. My only request is that all the other NATO member nations spend a comparable percentage of their GDPs on their militaries.

a reply to: WeMustCare

The proper question is not WTF is Wrong With Them?, but WTF is Wrong With the stupid voters that keep putting the same corrupt, lying, grafting criminals in office?

Until we sort that problem out, NOTHING will change.

And, yeah, I know the old argument that voting doesn't matter. I do believe, though, that they count on disengagement for that to work. If enough people engaged the system, it'd at least throw a monkey wrench into their gears.

And maybe - just maybe - it'd take something more than the vote to bring about the needed change.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

One plight of humanity is that we must "Suffer The Fools Of This World".

I think we all suffered a little from your previous post.

On the Contrary , it was Very Informative . Perhaps if you had Read it in it's Entirety , you would have had a Better Grasp of the TRUTHS it Presented............

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

One plight of humanity is that we must "Suffer The Fools Of This World".

I think we all suffered a little from your previous post.

On the Contrary , it was Very Informative . Perhaps if you had Read it in it's Entirety , you would have had a Better Grasp of the TRUTHS it Presented............

Well I did read it and originally thought it was a combination of racist, antisemitic, lost cause apologetics nonsense. Liberally sprinkled with pseudo history and full on tin foil hat drivel.

But then you capitalised TRUTHS so obviously I had to reconsider.

Eta. Its also off topic so I won't post anymore on that. If you or the original quote poster wants a thread on how how slavery was really the fault of Jews then start one.

a reply to: WeMustCare

I have no problem with the US spending on our military as a country, that is not the problem, the problem is that democrats love nipple suckers and now we will have 8 million more multiply by how many spawns they get withing a year, tax payers will pay for all that.

1.66 trillion will look like pennies on the dollar when the nipple suckers will start eating on health and welfare system.

Soo why complains about taking care of our military, worry about what is going to happen in the next 5 years.

originally posted by: Boogerpicker
a reply to: WeMustCare

It's the state's job to wipe your butt for you, not the feds. Defense is really the only thing the feds should be paying for.... but wait until you see the SSA budget lol. You a fan of paying junkies not to work?

Social Security Administration budget?

originally posted by: bluesman023
Now they are installing Solar Panels at the Pentagon.
Another Biden Genius Idea.
This is the kind of Genius that Dems Voted for.
Go ahead and Vote the Moron in Charge back in and see how much more Stupid
we can Handle.

a reply to: WeMustCare

Biden may be God's Will, but this Continuing Resolution is being called PELOSI's Spending Bill.

Amazing: gettr.com...