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Biden stresses US 'does not support independence' for Taiwan as world leaders react to election win

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posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 04:36 PM
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What is going on this is just bizarro World Is this Bidens way of supporting China ? This guy needs out of office asap .

Taiwan is now on its own Biden just gave China the green light . What a embarrassment on the World stage .

"We do not support independence," Biden told reporters when asked for comment on DPP candidate William Lai’s victory over the rival Koumintang (KMT) party following Saturday’s election. "

Is anyone going to trust the US's word at this point ?


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posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: Ravenwatcher

IIRC Biden has made no bones about his China one position.

While Pelosi certainly has been hedging her bets with Nvidia and making sure taxpayers dumped millions if not billions into chip infrastructure.

It's politics as usual with a caveat, this one will lead to a war, but they will happily sacrifice your sons and daughters for their politics and personal financial gain...kinda like Ukraine.


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posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: Ravenwatcher This Moran doesn't even support our own independence... much less another countries independence.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: Maryjo57

I take issue with your use of the term moron.

We aren't this bad...



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Whats South Korea and others supposed to think about this ?

The US has been backing out on all of It's allies .
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posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: JinMI

Whats South Korea and other supposed to think about this ?


To your point, any ally of the US for that matter.


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posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 05:08 PM
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Typical ass backwards chaos. "Doesn't support independence" but "encourages democracy".

The party is over. 🤡




posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 05:45 PM
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It's looking like XI's small investment is paying off well. Hey Hunter, remember all the good times, it's time to pay up.
Like Belt and Road but with a crackhead.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 05:56 PM
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If Biden wins over Mean Tweets, this country deserves going back to the stone age head first.

Get this turd off the stage already.

And stop letting him cheat on his physical/medical evaluations or fire the Physician.





posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:05 PM
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There's no change in policy here.

No American Government has ever 'officially' supported the Independence of Taiwan. Prior to 1979 the US considered Taiwan the rightful government of all of China, and after normalising relations with real China maintains that Taiwan is part of China (a requirement for any nation to have relations with China). Every US Government since then has continued relations through Taiwan indirectly and informally via a non-profit called "American Institute in Taiwan".

If anything Biden's administration has strengthened support for Taiwan compared to previous governments in light of Chinese rhetoric regarding reunification through military action.


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posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

Diplomacy is wishy washy.

International diplomacy is wishy washier.

What Biden said is definitive.

He’s an idiot.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:27 PM
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Everybody knows China bribes the Biden’s.

Biden knows they have receipts.

He and his drug addicted son sold us out.

We have never not supported Independence.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Taiwan is now on its own Biden just gave China the green light .

Pretty much. And when China takes over Taiwan, that means a whole lotta' more computer chips will be coming from China. And we will be even more behold'n to China.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
What is going on this is just bizarro World Is this Bidens way of supporting China ? This guy needs out of office asap .

Taiwan is now on its own Biden just gave China the green light . What a embarrassment on the World stage .

"We do not support independence," Biden told reporters when asked for comment on DPP candidate William Lai’s victory over the rival Koumintang (KMT) party following Saturday’s election. "


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Biden is just restating the "one China policy" that has been the formal US position since about 1971. Trump endorsed it. Obama endorsed it. George W. Bush endorsed it, etc., etc.

"When the United States moved to recognize the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and de-recognize the Republic of China (ROC) in 1979, the United States stated that the government of the People’s Republic of China was “the sole legal Government of China.” Sole, meaning the PRC was and is the only China, with no consideration of the ROC as a separate sovereign entity.
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The United States did not, however, give in to Chinese demands that it recognize Chinese sovereignty over Taiwan (which is the name preferred by the United States since it opted to de-recognize the ROC). Instead, Washington acknowledged the Chinese position that Taiwan was part of China. For geopolitical reasons, both the United States and the PRC were willing to go forward with diplomatic recognition despite their differences on this matter. When China attempted to change the Chinese text from the original acknowledge to recognize, Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher told a Senate hearing questioner, “[W]e regard the English text as being the binding text. We regard the word ‘acknowledge’ as being the word that is determinative for the U.S.” In the August 17, 1982, U.S.-China Communique, the United States went one step further, stating that it had no intention of pursuing a policy of “two Chinas” or “one China, one Taiwan.”
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To this day, the U.S. “one China” position stands: the United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China but only acknowledges the Chinese position that Taiwan is part of China. Thus, the United States maintains formal relations with the PRC and has unofficial relations with Taiwan. The “one China” policy has subsequently been reaffirmed by every new incoming U.S. administration. The existence of this understanding has enabled the preservation of stability in the Taiwan Strait, allowing both Taiwan and mainland China to pursue their extraordinary political and socioeconomic transitions in relative peace.
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In the San Francisco Treaty of Peace of 1951, Japan renounced “all right, title and claim to Formosa and the Pescadores.” Neither the Republic of China nor the People’s Republic of China were parties to the treaty, and thus neither was declared a beneficiary of the Japanese renouncement.
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The U.S. position regarding sovereignty over Taiwan remains steady and consistent with its “one China policy”: both sides of the Taiwan Strait should mutually and peacefully agree to a resolution of this as yet unsettled issue. The United States doesn’t agree with Beijing’s claim to sovereignty over Taiwan, nor does it agree with Taipei that the ROC is an independent, sovereign state."

From:

www.everycrsreport.com...

Basically, this is one of those agreements that only seems to make sense in diplomat-world. The US does not recognize Taiwan as an independent sovereign nation, and that keeps the mainland happy enough so that they will do business with us. At the same time, we don't recognize the PRC's claim of sovereignty over Taiwan and that keeps Taiwan happy enough to do business with us. That allows the US to formally consider the matter "unsettled". It only works as long as the situation is ambiguous.

"At the same time, the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) of 1979, has governed U.S. policy in the absence of a diplomatic relationship or a defense treaty. The TRA stipulates the expectation that the future of Taiwan “will be determined” by peaceful means. The TRA specifies that it is U.S. policy, among the stipulations: to consider any non-peaceful means to determine Taiwan’s future “a threat” to the peace and security of the Western Pacific and of “grave concern” to the United States; “to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character;” and “to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion” jeopardizing the security, or social or economic system of Taiwan’s people."

The TRA gives US Presidents cover to set in place the military means to defend Taiwan. That's why Biden stated plainly in the Spring of 2022 that the US would respond militarily to an invasion of Taiwan by the PRC. That's why he has been systematically taking concrete steps to build up military capability against China since he's been in office. That includes entering into the US-UK-Australia agreement to give Australia a nuclear attack submarine capability, building up military bases and forces in Japan, Guam, the Philippines, Papua New Guinea, and other locations that border the South China Sea. Also, the Marine Corps, Air Force, and Army are being retooled with the idea of conflict with China being the driving requirement. They're all getting capabilities specifically designed to be able to confront the PRC if they try to invade Taiwan. While you probably haven't been paying attention, Biden has actually been systematically putting in place all the infrastructure to confront China militarily, which is what he said he would do when he was campaigning.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
Everybody knows China bribes the Biden’s.

Biden knows they have receipts.

He and his drug addicted son sold us out.

We have never not supported Independence.


IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE. Trump/Barr rekindled firing squads for traitors like Joe and Hunter Biden.

All we need to do is avoid getting involved in a major war for 11 more months.

ONLY 11 more months. 🤞🙏



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Boomer1947
Thankyou for the detailed background of where the USA stands and what President Biden is prepared to do...maybe even hoping to do. (Since 2021 his military people have been drooling over a US-China war.) Biden is indeed a nutjob. Taiwan is not worth sending our sons/daughters to die for. No country is...except America.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: NorthOS

Biden said nothing that changes anything. Much like every time he opens his mouth.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Imhere
If Biden wins over Mean Tweets, this country deserves going back to the stone age head first.

Get this turd off the stage already.

And stop letting him cheat on his physical/medical evaluations or fire the Physician.



When you know how to write code, you can always win the election.



posted on Jan, 13 2024 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Boomer1947

What a very very long winded way of saying ol Joe Biden would never defy China....



posted on Jan, 14 2024 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: Boomer1947

While I agree...... back in 1972 China was going to be our new big best buddy as a favored trade agreement with them was being thought out. The USA would show them how much better capitalism was than Stalin/ MAO's communist doctrine. Nixon's trip to China in 1972 sealed the deal which at the time looked good for American business and trade.

Now with dollars and all the trade that made China rich they think they can own the waters and land from North of Taiwan all the way down to Indonesia if not more.

The good news is China is having some serious problems of it's own presently, or the bad news is because of those problems they need a great war to get the population off their back ?? youtu.be...

The huge Chinese Congress meeting where all the communist are gathered together would be a wonderful time for a big big IED or an ICBM to fall upon their heads; then let Taiwan run the whole show !!

The CCP destroyed mainland Chinese culture, religion, and the very essences of what it means to be more than just an unwilling organ donor.

I feel sorry for the mainland Chinese people so the sooner the CCP falls the better for the Chinese and the world in general IMO..

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