All they need is 100 years

a reply to: DAVID64

the ME 262 could reach a top speed of 560 mph and 37500 feet in 1944, manned space flight happened in less than 25 years, the the internet in stages of about 20 years apart.

so i would say not even 30 years to achieve wonders not thought of now, when people think of a million years ahead of us, imo their talking about things that haven't even been dreamed of from our perceptive.

Transportation has basically plateaued since the 60-70’s.

Compare the 707 or DC-8 to a modern airliner and there’s not much difference in design other than electronic tech and more fuel efficient engines. But all share the same concepts.

Trains, nothing has changed since the 40’s 50’s.

Main advancements are electronics, and gadgets.

Shoot, there’s no space shuttle anymore and we havnt even gone to Mars, let alone moon. In a sense we gone backwards,


Next, compare a house from the 40’s to a new house today. The 40’s house was better built, while the new modern house has better appliances, that’s about all.

General aviation. People still flying airplanes built in the 40’s-80’s. Because new private small airplanes are so expensive the average middle class folks can’t even afford a new Cessna 172 at $600,000 usd.

Again going backwards.

originally posted by: theatreboy
I believe aliens to be demons deceiving mankind.

Demons don't need spaceships. Aliens do. Big difference.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Technically we don't know how aliens would get here never mind Demons.

They may very well employ the likes of some kind of futuristic teleportation system to hop from world to world, for all we know.

How do you imagine demons travel or manage to find their way to our plane of existence?

It's an interesting subject.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: theatreboy
I believe aliens to be demons deceiving mankind.

Demons don't need spaceships. Aliens do. Big difference.

It is not that they need them, it is that they use them to deceive.

Think about it. Most people would say no to a demon, but an alien...they must only have out best interests in mind when they travelled 100 lys to get here.

a reply to: 38181

Bingo. As soon as red LEDs and Pong came along, our best and brightest focused on electronics and IT. Mechanical engineering ... materials science ... no progress since the 1960s.

Priorities need to be examined and rearranged.

Cheers

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FlyersFan

Technically we don't know how aliens would get here never mind Demons.

They may very well employ the likes of some kind of futuristic teleportation system to hop from world to world, for all we know.

How do you imagine demons travel or manage to find their way to our plane of existence?

It's an interesting subject.

The big problem facing the "inter/trans-dimensional" - based ET theory is : How would/could a being, or even an inorganic substance, native to an entirely different dimension, or, as you put it, "plane of existence", even manage to "exist" in our dimension/plane of existence?


I can quite imagine a catastrophic reaction occurring, similar to the annihilation that occurs when matter and antimatter interface, when a creature native to some other dimension attempts to "materialize" in our dimension.

Either that, or they remain nothing but a "shadow"; less substantial in our dimension than than a subatomic particle, or even a true shadow.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: theatreboy

That's one of the things I find funny about some people, the need they apparently have for the existence of some kind of "superior being(s)".

It's not a need,at least not in my case but understanding existence. It seems highly likely this ties in to a lot of other "supernatural" phonomena and the reason we are here.

Not something I ever thought I'd find myself writing...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: FlyersFan

Technically we don't know how aliens would get here never mind Demons.

They may very well employ the likes of some kind of futuristic teleportation system to hop from world to world, for all we know.

How do you imagine demons travel or manage to find their way to our plane of existence?

It's an interesting subject.

You mean, for example, some kind of way to utilise the multiverse to travel?

To me it seems more likely that Angels and Demons are the language of the time describing whatever it is we're dealing with again. These non-human intelligences Grusch testified to.

Same with Gods, Star People etc.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
Either that, or they remain nothing but a "shadow"; less substantial in our dimension than than a subatomic particle, or even a true shadow.

Perhaps akin to the way we can't interact with a 2D universe but we can cast a shadow on one...

a reply to: djz3ro

You mean, for example, some kind of way to utilise the multidemension to travel?

Depends on what you mean by dimension be it physics or cosmology i suppose.

To me it seems more likely that Angels and Demons are the language of the time describing whatever it is we're dealing with again.

What's the language of spacetime?

Differential mathematics/geometry/general relativity would seem to tick that box as opposed to an evil spirit or devil.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

I suppose If aliens/demons are somehow employing the likes of wormholes for travel purposes then the behavior of matter entering a wormhole is largely speculative.

What would happen to aliens physically would depend on the characteristics/properties of the hypothetical wormhole.

Apparently the stability and existence of such would require the likes of exotic matter to hold them open and stop them from collapsing.

originally posted by: 38181
Transportation has basically plateaued since the 60-70’s.

Compare the 707 or DC-8 to a modern airliner and there’s not much difference in design other than electronic tech and more fuel efficient engines. But all share the same concepts.

Trains, nothing has changed since the 40’s 50’s.

Main advancements are electronics, and gadgets.

Shoot, there’s no space shuttle anymore and we havnt even gone to Mars, let alone moon. In a sense we gone backwards,


Next, compare a house from the 40’s to a new house today. The 40’s house was better built, while the new modern house has better appliances, that’s about all.

General aviation. People still flying airplanes built in the 40’s-80’s. Because new private small airplanes are so expensive the average middle class folks can’t even afford a new Cessna 172 at $600,000 usd.

Again going backwards.

Yeah that's what I'm saying too...thank you for the details...I believe I heard this originally from an Elon musk science talk on YouTube with pushing his simulation theory. I'm not a musk fan for the record.

I completely agree on your assessment of homes too, for example our doors. In sci Fi movies futuristic doors would open up to down super fast by the touch of button or sensor of some kind. It's still a door knob and key hole, although you might use an electronic key, nothing's changed.

a reply to: 38181



It's pathetic how we choose to build homes in this day of age never mind what we are forced to pay in rent and mortgages.

Modern-day slavery of sorts.

People are simply being priced out of the market and cannot afford to remain where the have lived most of their days.

Social engineering and gentrification are to blame there methinks.

a reply to: sendhelp

Thanks Sendhelp!.

I’m not much of a musk follower, this was my pre coffee interjecting with zero sleep, coyotes making my dogs bark all night. I’d star gaze buts it’s too dang cold here, even in ufo country

But in simplistic comparisons, we all come to the same conclusions.

I appreciate you.

a reply to: 38181
While I think you make a good point, 5th gen fighters do have advancements, also maglev trains are not like the old coal burners.

When I first saw the OP I thought 100 years might be low-balling but I also think they make a good point. I mean if we look back, and progress is a curve, we will always be looking at a time with a flatter slope.

I remember back when I first saw an add for the apple newton, it seemed amazing to me. Now anyone can buy and carry a computer in their pocket. That was 30 years ago.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: 38181

It's pathetic how we choose to build homes in this day of age never mind what we are forced to pay in rent and mortgages.

Modern-day slavery of sorts.

People are simply being priced out of the market and cannot afford to remain where the have lived most of their days.

Social engineering and gentrification are to blame there methinks.

Plus we are drowning in the over saturation of manufactured goods.

There are more products on shelves and warehouses from the microist sized items to the largest of items….and everything in between, worldwide….than there are people to buy all of it.

One day…..the Grand Canyon will become a landfill dump.

As George Carlin would say, “Too much Stuff”.


Imo

👽

originally posted by: sendhelp
...although you might use an electronic key, nothing's changed.

To be fair, I think there is a point where something just works and if it ain't broke don't fix it.

I was watching a youtube video by a guy named scotty kilmer, talking about fobs (remote controls for car doors), he then showed you what to do if it stopped working, batteries died or whatever, he flips it over pushes a tab that slips out holding a key.

I mean we are still using fired clay, maybe a finer grade, to eat and drink coffee or tea. If it works, it works.

a reply to: DAVID64

I think we are devolving and rapidly , I remember watching the television show men land on the moon in 69 ,watched Concord take of in black and white on trials then commercially in 71 in colour now none of that is possible? ????

Picard was taking a balloon to the stratosphere in 1931 en.m.wikipedia.org...

They are just getting around to offering this to the public in the next few years maybe ! .

Where I live they posted the train timetables from 100 years ago and when I checked against the modern one there was more trains back then than now and exactly the same timetable with exactly the same journey times , when it was noisy steam trains that took massive amounts of labour to operate and maintenance.

One thing them aliens seem to have sorted out is they are not crashing as much as they once did

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
Where I live they posted the train timetables from 100 years ago and when I checked against the modern one there was more trains back then than now and exactly the same timetable with exactly the same journey times

There were less people with private cars back then as well.

A train can take you just so far but if you want to move around wherever you are going you may as well drive there.