What are the odds of this

I came across this little segment and thought what are the odds of all these presidents and prime ministers departing this world when they have just one thing in common, which is that they forbid the vax in their country, thats all except one who is the president of madagascar, who avoided an assasination attempt....So far. So it appears that some entity is at work which one is anyone's guess. rumble.com...

Jovenel Moise President of Haiti
assassinated July 2021

John Magufuli President of Tanzania
assassinated March 2021

Hamid Bakayoke President of Ivory coast
died 3/2021

Bakayoko announced on 6 April 2020 that he had tested positive for COVID-19, followed on 17 April by an announcement that he had made a full recovery.[13] He subsequently suffered a second coronavirus infection and severe malaria.[14]

He received lengthy treatment in France twice in early 2021.[14] On 6 March 2021, he was transferred to University Medical Center Freiburg for further treatment. He was said to undergo cancer treatment there and was said to be "in critical condition".

Pierre Nkurunzia President of Burundi
died June 8 2020 heart attack but widely suspected Covid19

Nkurunziza died on 8 June 2020, aged 55, at the Fiftieth Anniversary Hospital in Karuzi.[29] The Burundian government gave his cause of death as a heart attack,[29] but it was widely suspected that he died of COVID-19.[30][31] A week earlier, Kenyan newspaper The Standard reported his wife had flown without him to Nairobi, Kenya for COVID-19 treatment.

Ambrose Dlamini Prime Minister of Swaziland
September 2020

A government statement said Dlamini, 52, died on Sunday afternoon in hospital in South Africa.
No cause of death was mentioned, but Dlamini had recently been receiving treatment for Covid-19 in South Africa.

Doesn't look like much conspiracy quite frankly. But more a hit from Covid19. Two assassinations' though.

a reply to: StoutBroux

They are still all dead with a common thread.

originally posted by: StoutBroux
Doesn't look like much conspiracy quite frankly. But more a hit from Covid19. Two assassinations' though.

Some might say that many of the Covid deaths WERE assassination.

a reply to: annonentity

What advantage would 'the elitists' possibly get out of stopping some tiny population county from doing what they want?

Firstly, it looks a bit weird and suspicious, secondly it wouldn't change the attitudes of the wider world, and thirdly it exposes the elites to unnecessary risk.

That's the problem with a lot of doom-porn conspiracy theories, they aren't really rationally consistent.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: annonentity

What advantage would 'the elitists' possibly get out of stopping some tiny population county from doing what they want?

Firstly, it looks a bit weird and suspicious, secondly it wouldn't change the attitudes of the wider world, and thirdly it exposes the elites to unnecessary risk.

That's the problem with a lot of doom-porn conspiracy theories, they aren't really rationally consistent.

so the best way to approach any situation is to look at it through the lense of the official narrative and try super had not to deviate from said narrative at all costs, is that about right? It's almost like you aren't mentally equipped to grasp that this is a conspiracy site. What brought you here, a check?

a reply to: StoutBroux

Odd how these African countries didn’t suffer lots of deaths from covid, despite them not doing the lockdowns, social distancing, mask wearing etc…
Odd how it was always reported people died WITH covid and not OF covid.

Odd how once the the so called vaccines got rolled out, covid pretty much just went away, despite by their own admission these vaccines didn’t stop you from catching it or spreading it.

I could go on, there were so many oddities, but you can’t really unravel cognitive dissonance with those that have it.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: annonentity

What advantage would 'the elitists' possibly get out of stopping some tiny population county from doing what they want?

Firstly, it looks a bit weird and suspicious, secondly it wouldn't change the attitudes of the wider world, and thirdly it exposes the elites to unnecessary risk.

That's the problem with a lot of doom-porn conspiracy theories, they aren't really rationally consistent.

so the best way to approach any situation is to look at it through the lense of the official narrative and try super had not to deviate from said narrative at all costs, is that about right?

No, that is something that you have made-up, that really has nothing to do with what I posted.

As far as my motivations go, I have previously posted my disagreement with many US government policies and actions. For instance, their ludicrous second amendment (and their whole very poorly written Constitution), and their claims to be at the technological forefront in the world and every other country is therefore 'stealing' their intellectual properties - despite the fact that these other countries have tech well before the US (hypersonic missiles, 5G & etc), and their belief that they are the pinnacle of freedom - when they have incarcerated so many of their citizens and yet their crime rate is median.

I'm clearly not some shill for the US authorities. You know my posting history.

It's almost like you aren't mentally equipped to grasp that this is a conspiracy site. What brought you here, a check?

There are all sorts of conspiracies that have been proven to be real, and also very many that are rationally consistent, have not been evidenced, but are possible.

But you don't just put your brain in the bin when someone suggests something emotive but silly.

I was pointing out the rational inconsistencies in the belief that some anonymous 'elite' group is assassinating national leaders who were outspoken against immunizations.

Pragmatism is not an indicator of cognitive deficits.

When you post stuff telling some other person what they are thinking, it is a clear indication that you are incapable of separating what you imagine, from what is reality.

a reply to: chr0naut

we are good with our constitution and the 2nd amendment. We have such an amazing country that we have the option for DERP's who don't like it, to not come here, and stay in their own amazing nation where a nutjob can remove your rights by shooting folks, and then telling everyone he did it so you would loose your rights.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

we are good with our constitution and the 2nd amendment. We have such an amazing country that we have the option for DERP's who don't like it, to not come here

What country in the world does not have that?

, and stay in their own amazing nation where a nutjob can remove your rights by shooting folks, and then telling everyone he did it so you would loose your rights.

The need to have to carry around a weapon, to protect yourself against others carrying around weapons, does not sound like a right, but a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

It's like having to go out and steal stuff because others are thieving from you.

... and we do have legal firearms in the hands of the public here in New Zealand.

Applying for a firearms license

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

we are good with our constitution and the 2nd amendment. We have such an amazing country that we have the option for DERP's who don't like it, to not come here

What country in the world does not have that?

, and stay in their own amazing nation where a nutjob can remove your rights by shooting folks, and then telling everyone he did it so you would loose your rights.

The need to have to carry around a weapon, to protect yourself against others carrying around weapons, does not sound like a right, but a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

It's like having to go out and steal stuff because others are thieving from you.

... and we do have legal firearms in the hands of the public here in New Zealand.

Applying for a firearms license

LOL, you don't see it do you.

a reply to: chr0naut

Why should we give up our right to defend ourselves against those that are only out to do us harm?

a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

What a wonderful thing to say from someone who obviously knows nothing about carrying a firearm for self defense and protection.

Please elaborate, exactly what situation am I putting myself in if I am minding my own business and a guy tries to rob me at knife point?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: chr0naut

Why should we give up our right to defend ourselves against those that are only out to do us harm?

a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

What a wonderful thing to say from someone who obviously knows nothing about carrying a firearm for self defense and protection.

Please elaborate, exactly what situation am I putting myself in if I am minding my own business and a guy tries to rob me at knife point?

At knife point? Hell, they'll have a gun, almost anyone can get one!

a reply to: chr0naut

That's not an answer to my question

But, even then, you just further made my point

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

we are good with our constitution and the 2nd amendment. We have such an amazing country that we have the option for DERP's who don't like it, to not come here

What country in the world does not have that?

, and stay in their own amazing nation where a nutjob can remove your rights by shooting folks, and then telling everyone he did it so you would loose your rights.

The need to have to carry around a weapon, to protect yourself against others carrying around weapons, does not sound like a right, but a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

It's like having to go out and steal stuff because others are thieving from you.

... and we do have legal firearms in the hands of the public here in New Zealand.

Applying for a firearms license

LOL, you don't see it do you.

If you think that I don't understand something, why can't you simply state what it is that I don't see?

What I do see is that the same law that arms the general public also arms the bad guys. It does not create more safety or security but escalates the potential violence.

a reply to: PorkChop96

I don't think he sees it.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

we are good with our constitution and the 2nd amendment. We have such an amazing country that we have the option for DERP's who don't like it, to not come here

What country in the world does not have that?

, and stay in their own amazing nation where a nutjob can remove your rights by shooting folks, and then telling everyone he did it so you would loose your rights.

The need to have to carry around a weapon, to protect yourself against others carrying around weapons, does not sound like a right, but a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

It's like having to go out and steal stuff because others are thieving from you.

... and we do have legal firearms in the hands of the public here in New Zealand.

Applying for a firearms license

why do KIWI's have guns then? If the only reason to have them is to rob people or shoot people who are robbing you, why does your country allow them? (that's the part you walked into while DERPing.)

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: chr0naut

That's not an answer to my question

But, even then, you just further made my point

Do you have laws against carrying knives? Why not carry a knife in self-defense against knife wielders?

Or, and here's a weird possibility, why not try and avoid doing anything that might get you injured?

Why not run away, or de-escalate the situation, or give them what they want, or kick them in the nuts, or learn a martial art? Or even all of those options used in the same situation?

a reply to: chr0naut

Actually yes, there are states/cities that have restrictions on knives that can be carried.

Why not give myself the upper hand? Why is it my responsibility to have a fair fight when I am not the one committing the crime?

Again, how am I putting myself in a situation to get "hurt" if I am minding my own business and a guy tries to rob me?

Do you have an actual argument against me owning and carrying a firearm to defend myself or just more nonsense?


Are you also going to tell me that if someone breaks into my house to rob me, I am supposed to just let them take whatever they want and go without incident?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

we are good with our constitution and the 2nd amendment. We have such an amazing country that we have the option for DERP's who don't like it, to not come here

What country in the world does not have that?

, and stay in their own amazing nation where a nutjob can remove your rights by shooting folks, and then telling everyone he did it so you would loose your rights.

The need to have to carry around a weapon, to protect yourself against others carrying around weapons, does not sound like a right, but a knee-jerk reaction to a bad situation you have gotten yourself into.

It's like having to go out and steal stuff because others are thieving from you.

... and we do have legal firearms in the hands of the public here in New Zealand.

Applying for a firearms license

why do KIWI's have guns then? If the only reason to have them is to rob people or shoot people who are robbing you, why does your country allow them? (that's the part you walked into while DERPing.)

Hunting, farming/animal control and sports shooting.

That 'if' option you proposed above to be the only case, is not the only case.