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I do not think Trump will do enough

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posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: dust2023
I bet this is true...


Uh, okay?

Regardless, it was and is still universally supported by both parties.


I forget, you were probably hazed to be in support of the status quo.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: dust2023
I forget, you were probably hazed to be in support of the status quo.


Not a fan of the facts, are you?



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CriticalStinker

A person can dream.


Where in the hell is Gary Johnson when we need him!



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
Where in the hell is Gary Johnson when we need him!


Probably stoned again.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:35 PM
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We are in this situation because the american people became fat, dumb, and lazy and let the 2 parties dominate the scene and rip us off for a couple generations.

the caboose is off the tracks right now we are just waiting for the train wreck to finish.

Personally the revenge tour would probably at least make me chuckle.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CriticalStinker

A person can dream.


Where in the hell is Gary Johnson when we need him!


Santa Fe...



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: AllisVibration
a reply to: JAY1980




The attack vector is simply the removal of the IRS. You remove the revenue stream and everything will follow. The FBI, ATF, DEA, DHS, CIA, ETC will cease to exist.


The thing is the government spends more than they receive in revenue, hence the ever increasing national debt. The gov get this money from the FED, who create the money out of thin air and lend it with interest to the government. So really it is the Federal Reserve that should be ended.

It’s all a clever contrived scam, which is why it was created in secrecy in the first place, and the powerful people that opposed it, conveniently died on the Titanic.


I know it's cool and edgy to day "end the fed", but we would have to have a plan as to what to do going forward.

I am all for gutting the Federal government and eliminating the majority of the bloated waste and massive spending on perpetuating more government. It's a fantastic idea. We just need to figure out who can fill the gaps that will exist when we eliminate some groups. Education should be a private thing within each state. The better schools will attract those with the means to be there. Failure will be met with removal, rather than promotions. We can get back to a meritocracy rather than DEI wonderland. (where you wonder how this idiot was put in this position)

A whole lot of thought has to be put into this, but to do so now, would be plotting a coup, or dare I say, an insurrection. The FBI and CIA would be all over you. Domestic terrorist.

If you think about it like that, it's easy to see where the root of the problems are.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
Where in the hell is Gary Johnson when we need him!


Probably stoned again.


I know a guy who has some great ideas when he's a little high. He also says some epicly stupid things, so there is that.

But we do need some better choices, and until someone with some smarts is willing to step up, we get the giant douche vs, the Turd Sammich. Over, and Over, and Over........and so on.

Why don't people like the smart one's on this site run for office? I remember Grambler tried to break into the political sphere. Don't know where that led, but he did make an effort. I'm too fat and old, so I've got a good supply of excuses. But someone like you could be a leader. A super snarky leader, but a better choice than many. Other than common sense and good judgement, what's holding you back?



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
Other than common sense and good judgement, what's holding you back?


My personality.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:47 PM
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Whether Trump is willing to do what you say (and it definitely needs to be done), there is always Chuck Schumer's "six ways to Sunday" comment to remember. (I couldn't even find the comment on YouTube so had to link to BitChute.)

The shadow gov't killed John Kennedy. Schumer said it out loud. They will stop at nothing to protect themselves.

ETA: Here is is on YouTube...



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edit on 2023 12 31 by AwakeNotWoke because: ETA.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
Other than common sense and good judgement, what's holding you back?


My personality.


I have to call bullsh!t on that one. Trump was president of the US for 4 years. And I have heard some whispers that a select few weren't super impressed by his personality.

Besides, you are much less of an ass in person.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: dust2023
I bet this is true...


Uh, okay?

Regardless, it was and is still universally supported by both parties.


Of course it is, free money that they don’t have to claw directly from the tax payer, just stick it on the tab. Then raise the debt ceiling when they need more… meanwhile the privately owned Fed gets paid handsomely in interest for money they never had.

It’s all thoroughly explained in The Creature from Jekyll Island.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:55 PM
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No conservative POTUS can do everything to fix a horrendously broken system without the support of the major branches and ever growing departments within the body of 'government' agencies, and a lot more time. And it's quite obvious that Trump didn't have that in his first term. As Biden has only strengthened the left, how would anyone think one man could possibly 'do enough', especially knowing he has only one term to achieve those goals?

His best bet would be to fire everyone possible in higher up positions and rehire but that on it's own would be a disaster because he can't seem to hire the right people. So much for his 'Apprentice' expertise.

He also needs to keep his big mouth shut but his ego just won't let him. Some people get so caught up in being 'right', they can't see the chaos around them and their attention is grossly skewed. Seriously, he seems to have ADD when it comes to controversy and strays from being an effective leader, resorting to grade school name calling and finger pointing. It doesn't help that the opposition is very aware of his flaws and continues to throw distracting squirrels around him.

His best bet is to keep his nose to the grindstone, focus on what's important, lay a solid foundation for the PEOPLE and the next POTUS, regardless of party.

If only approximately 13% of those polled (yes, I knoooow, polls!) feel they are doing better under Biden then there's a serious disconnect between voters and their responsibility to vote the most qualified person to best represent THEIR interests, among other duties a POTUS has.

Can Trump do enough? Doubtful, but any corrective measures are a plus so we must figure out who would be the most qualified to achieve as much as possible. As many are able to see, democracy is quickly becoming a system of dictators instead of public officials elected to represent the people.

It's frustrating to see the corruption, the wastefulness of our hard earned dollars, the ineffectiveness of such a broken system, the disproportionate focus on foreigners vs. citizens.....

Keep on truckin' til you can't. I wish there were effective answers but so far, beyond a true revolution which would take years to recover from and who knows the final outcome? I guess do the best you can, be humble, and practice the Golden rule.

That's all I got.


I hope the New Year brings happiness and success in all endeavors to everyone here on ATS.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: AllisVibration
Of course it is, free money that they don’t have to claw directly from the tax payer, just stick it on the tab. Then raise the debt ceiling when they need more… meanwhile the privately owned Fed gets paid handsomely in interest for money they never had.


The Federal Reserve pays the Treasury nearly all its profits each year.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
...But we do need some better choices, and until someone with some smarts is willing to step up, we get the giant douche vs, the Turd Sammich. Over, and Over, and Over........and so on. ...




Yep, that's pretty much where we are.

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edit on 2023 12 31 by AwakeNotWoke because: formatting error.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: network dude

A meritocracy you say? If only.. Ron Paul was the man but he wasn’t bribable enough to get anywhere near. As for what to replace the Fed with the government is supposed to represent the people, therefore the people are supposed to be the ones with the power.

Anything else is a flat out lie, a con designed to hoodwink the masses. I mean what are they going to do throw everyone in jail? Like a bunch of leeches they need cutting out, all it takes is for people to take their power back. We would see very quickly the true colours and motives of those running the show then, but it wouldn’t take long for them to retreat to their bunkers.

No need to rise up, just stop playing their game on mass, like a parallel society taking in ever more stragglers, refusing their mandates, refusing their dictates, and above all refusing their so called help.

One way or another the system is bound to collapse anyway, it’s simply unsustainable.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: dust2023
I forget, you were probably hazed to be in support of the status quo.


Not a fan of the facts, are you?


what fact? I said you are probably correct. I assumed that you were correct - what is your problem? Am I supposed to fact check for you? Are we all your secretary?

Aren't you missing a secret meeting somewhere?



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: AllisVibration

watching what happened to Ron Paul just opened up the truth that the uniparty is in charge. I think he would have been an amazing breath of fresh air had he been able to run and not get killed for winning. His fiscal conservative mindset coupled with common sense and some inherent smarts could have set us on a path of greatness and the will to go in that direction. Instead we got a ride in a Volkswagen bug with 34 other clowns just waiting to pop out. Don't get me wrong, the shoes look sweet and I'm getting used to the nose. But I'd rather have just watched the movie and not lived the full "clown world 4d" experience.



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: AllisVibration


One way or another the system is bound to collapse anyway, it’s simply unsustainable.


how many Trillions more do you think it will take to find the sweet spot?


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think about how it works. Tell the world that if you don't pass the budget democracy will end, spend like a sailor with 4 months pay in his pocket and 24 hours shore leave, then when the bill comes due, scream that if the debt ceiling isn't raised, democracy will end. It sounds like it's time to push to test and see what "the end of democracy" would look like IRL.
edit on 31-12-2023 by network dude because: Beto, what a stupid name



posted on Dec, 31 2023 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: dust2023
I said you are probably correct.


Actually, you said no such thing until right now.


Am I supposed to fact check for you?


You should always fact check what people tell you and in this case you'd see that the Federal Reserve was and is supported by both parties.




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