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originally posted by: CosmicFocus
a reply to: Unwokenone
In which direction were the objects moving? If moving directly east, it probably was Musk's satellites. You state that the objects moved such and such and then say it lasted only a split second. Can you explain the drastic difference?
The second image bears little relationship to the first. What is the connection of the two?
A "close encounter" usually is just that, not a distant, in the sky visual sighting.
originally posted by: ksihkahe
The object just left of the center doesn't appear very distorted to me. Is it possible the camera was moving with that object resulting in a clearer picture of it, but resulting in the other artifacts? I don't understand how an extended exposure time explains all of the image, but to me there doesn't seem to be much about that particular craft that is distorted.
Stationary objects should share a similar pattern of movement over long exposure, no?
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: ksihkahe
One thing that may create a different pattern is if the object being photographed had a blinking light instead of a fixed light, like in this photo of an aeroplane I just took.
Hi, as you'll see, I am new to ATS, but not new in the grand scheme.
Aside from starting to bump up my post count (sorry just being honest, which is an essential personality trait in this field we will all agree) it can be very frustrating having footage or photos of objects with trailing lights, which makes them very difficult to decipher.
I have lots of UFO, or in my words 'craft' footage which is impressive and would be much more so if I had better recording equipment. Unfortunately, these craft are piloted by ETs who do seem to give a sh!t if they are spotted en mass by the public, or Great British public in my case. So, to put a little effort in and try to blend a bit, they adopt the shape of regular, or sometimes not so regular man made aircraft, usually large white passenger jets during the day and almost aways at night but also smaller Cessna style planes, helicopters and so on, all of which I find to be very impressive how they so easily adopt these shapes and I'm unsure if they are shapeshifting or more likely using a form of cloaking or holographic technology which we (mankind) can also easily do, I am sure of it. In fact that's probably technology we had at our disposal 70+ years ago or more.
This is all very clever, probably very basic for them to achieve but can also be bloody annoying for me, if I can be so selfish, but it is so very very frustrating and at times tedious trying to share such footage on the Ytube and prove to the viewers or pesky debunkers (who set out to disprove and nothing else) and insist that what people are seeing is genuine footage of ET or otherworldly craft (too in-depth to explain right now how I now this for sure) when as far as they, the viewers are concerned, many of them think that all they are looking at is footage displaying nothing more than planes and those genuinely thinking this would be forgiven as they (ET) achieve the desired effect very convincingly and in a split second when it's required.
If they (the viewer) genuinely believe this but actually take the time to really analyse the footage a bit more in-depth, they will quite quickly start to realise that these "planes" are larger objects using a cloaking, holographic, shapeshifting technology to pull the wool over our eyes, or more so to deceive those they don't want to notice them perhaps, and they appear as regular everyday aircraft but with just enough small clues and subtle differences to enable the trained eye or someone with just an ounce of patience and attention to notice the details. Occasionally there attempts to look like planes etc are rather clumsy or lazy and they make pretty obvious mistakes such as a wing in totally the wrong place or lights in places you never usually see them.
They use blinking red, green and white lights to blend in at night, especially when other aircraft enter the same airspace, but then switch back to their natural or less obvious formations and light configurations when the unwanted aircraft bugger off, usually military craft as well, I am almost certain of it. It is quite amusing to watch and seems very mischievous. Whether it works and the other aircraft are clueless as to what they are sharing airspace with remains to be seen, or for me it does at least. It's like I am 'in' on the joke as it were but I don't get to find out if they actually manage to fool the other pilots and radar operators etc. Doubt I'll ever get to know for sure but I would love to know the true answer to that....if you follow what I am trying to explain (?)
So, the genuine reason for me posting on this thread is, as I stated, to start my mission of submitting 20+ posts to enable me to start a new thread altogether but I do have a genuine interest in this subject/thread, hence why I chose to post on it.
So....ultimately.....I want to share my content with the actual community, not with a handful of annoying tw@ts on YouTube who like nothing more than to be the first poster on a new video, looking to slate it and smear negativity all over it from the outset. God damn it I hate them. 'Hate' is a strong word I grant you but it's close to the true sentiment I feel when I read their posts.
So far I've seen....
"that's a plane bozo"
"Bah ha ha! UB a fool to believe this. 😅😅😅😅"
"Your joking. Right?"
Sorry if it seems like I've momentarily hijacked your thread, not my intention.
Cheers
JIMMYCARBONEedit on 31-12-2023 by Jimmycarbone because: spelling errors and missing info I wanted to add
originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Unwokenone
Could you give us the EXIF data from the photos, so we can get a better idea of how things were?
Looking at both photos it looks like a relatively long exposure time was used (that's why we see only lines and not points of light).
The second photo appears to have an even longer exposure time, creating longer lines.
originally posted by: Jimmycarbone
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: ksihkahe
One thing that may create a different pattern is if the object being photographed had a blinking light instead of a fixed light, like in this photo of an aeroplane I just took.
Hi, as you'll see, I am new to ATS, but not new in the grand scheme.
Aside from starting to bump up my post count (sorry just being honest, which is an essential personality trait in this field we will all agree) it can be very frustrating having footage or photos of objects with trailing lights, which makes them very difficult to decipher.
I have lots of UFO, or in my words 'craft' footage which is impressive and would be much more so if I had better recording equipment. Unfortunately, these craft are piloted by ETs who do seem to give a sh!t if they are spotted en mass by the public, or Great British public in my case. So, to put a little effort in and try to blend a bit, they adopt the shape of regular, or sometimes not so regular man made aircraft, usually large white passenger jets during the day and almost aways at night but also smaller Cessna style planes, helicopters and so on, all of which I find to be very impressive how they so easily adopt these shapes and I'm unsure if they are shapeshifting or more likely using a form of cloaking or holographic technology which we (mankind) can also easily do, I am sure of it. In fact that's probably technology we had at our disposal 70+ years ago or more.
This is all very clever, probably very basic for them to achieve but can also be bloody annoying for me, if I can be so selfish, but it is so very very frustrating and at times tedious trying to share such footage on the Ytube and prove to the viewers or pesky debunkers (who set out to disprove and nothing else) and insist that what people are seeing is genuine footage of ET or otherworldly craft (too in-depth to explain right now how I now this for sure) when as far as they, the viewers are concerned, many of them think that all they are looking at is footage displaying nothing more than planes and those genuinely thinking this would be forgiven as they (ET) achieve the desired effect very convincingly and in a split second when it's required.
If they (the viewer) genuinely believe this but actually take the time to really analyse the footage a bit more in-depth, they will quite quickly start to realise that these "planes" are larger objects using a cloaking, holographic, shapeshifting technology to pull the wool over our eyes, or more so to deceive those they don't want to notice them perhaps, and they appear as regular everyday aircraft but with just enough small clues and subtle differences to enable the trained eye or someone with just an ounce of patience and attention to notice the details. Occasionally there attempts to look like planes etc are rather clumsy or lazy and they make pretty obvious mistakes such as a wing in totally the wrong place or lights in places you never usually see them.
They use blinking red, green and white lights to blend in at night, especially when other aircraft enter the same airspace, but then switch back to their natural or less obvious formations and light configurations when the unwanted aircraft bugger off, usually military craft as well, I am almost certain of it. It is quite amusing to watch and seems very mischievous. Whether it works and the other aircraft are clueless as to what they are sharing airspace with remains to be seen, or for me it does at least. It's like I am 'in' on the joke as it were but I don't get to find out if they actually manage to fool the other pilots and radar operators etc. Doubt I'll ever get to know for sure but I would love to know the true answer to that....if you follow what I am trying to explain (?)
So, the genuine reason for me posting on this thread is, as I stated, to start my mission of submitting 20+ posts to enable me to start a new thread altogether but I do have a genuine interest in this subject/thread, hence why I chose to post on it.
So....ultimately.....I want to share my content with the actual community, not with a handful of annoying tw@ts on YouTube who like nothing more than to be the first poster on a new video, looking to slate it and smear negativity all over it from the outset. God damn it I hate them. 'Hate' is a strong word I grant you but it's close to the true sentiment I feel when I read their posts.
So far I've seen....
"that's a plane bozo"
"Bah ha ha! UB a fool to believe this. 😅😅😅😅"
"Your joking. Right?"
Sorry if it seems like I've momentarily hijacked your thread, not my intention.
Cheers
JIMMYCARBONE
amazing and spot on.
originally posted by: ksihkahe
a reply to: Encia22
As I mentioned I'm not really knowledgeable enough to give an analysis, but the streaking caused by long exposure doesn't appear uniform to me. While I accept that long exposure time explains some of the effects, I don't think it explains them all by any stretch. I'm focusing on the second image as the first has very little to work with going for the naked eye. I'd expect some enhancements and contrast would show more. From the OP is seems the images were taken outside the car, but I'm hoping they clarify. Some light source inside a vehicle would seem to explain many of the strange parts, but OP can fill us in.
Unless the camera uses AI on distinct parts of the picture independently, I still don't see how such directional streaking could appear to not move in the same directions.
The object just left of the center doesn't appear very distorted to me. Is it possible the camera was moving with that object resulting in a clearer picture of it, but resulting in the other artifacts? I don't understand how an extended exposure time explains all of the image, but to me there doesn't seem to be much about that particular craft that is distorted.
Stationary objects should share a similar pattern of movement over long exposure, no?
I don't really need photos to confirm existence of exotic craft for my own belief, but additional data is always good. I'm fairly convinced already as we've known that our government has exotic craft for some time. They eventually became open secrets, then not secrets. The more interesting craft, I believe, are not ours and likely can't be photographed in a meaningful way. The green fog is interesting due to these alleged dimensional "craft" causing temporal interference in our universe.
I hope between the OP's experience in the moment and some skilled photo analysis we can determine what is artifect, what are real objects, and what remains unexplained.
originally posted by: Spacespider1111
Taking pictures in nigh mode require to hold the camera still when doing so.
There are photo streaks all over those photos not much to see
originally posted by: ksihkahe
a reply to: Encia22
While I accept that long exposure time explains some of the effects, I don't think it explains them all by any stretch. I'm focusing on the second image as the first has very little to work with going for the naked eye. I'd expect some enhancements and contrast would show more. .