2020 Georgia Fraud Exposed

None of it matters. Everyone knew there was fraud, we knew, and of course the fraud committers knew. It proved that our votes had less purpose than toilet paper. As long as no action is taken to stop the huge monopolies from existing and cash is king, people like Gates, Sorros, and the like keep buying everything up, we'll be seeing whoever they want to lead the U.S.

I remember seeing this video clip prior to the election and knew what was up then.

originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: Klassified

Any better sources on this, anything credible?

Leadingreport

Couldn't be more extreme or questionable than this link. Leadingreport is as extreme and as non-reliable as can get.

Twitter isn't a good source either, that's just opinions.

I would love to vet this and look into it deeper, but not with these sources. Anything better, por favor?

At one time this was a reasonably clever tactic (Kill the source, kill the message), but it has been used so often everyone sees through it. If you consider the source(s) to be less than desirable, that makes it at least as good or better than any source you and the other lefties use around here daily.

a reply to: Astyanax

There's a PDF linked in that fake-news site report that reproduces the meeting agenda. Go take a look at it.

I did. It's one of the reasons I used that "fake news site report".

a reply to: Allaroundya4k

I'm just going to point something out. It was your guy who cried about sources and then that trickled down to the Trump crowd always saying "fake news" everytime something they disagree with is presented to them. infact many users here just straight up discredit other users because of linked sources.

Kill the source to kill the message has been a propaganda tool since long before you and I were born. It did not originate with the former president.

The mainstream media and its affiliates have needed little help from the right to discredit themselves. They have done the job all on their own, repeatedly. CNN's director even admitting it is propaganda on video/audio. MSNBC, and even Faux conservative Fox have shot themselves in the foot.

They are deserving of the title fake news because they have earned it many times over. None of the hypocritical left have any room to criticize sources. The left have the best propaganda sources on the planet.

I wouldn't protest too much; 3d-Chess removed.

Why wants to be the president in the aftermath of Covid-19, withdrawal from Afghanistan and a new war in the Ukraine?

Certainly not the egotistical Donald Trump who can't tolerate anything but winning. He probably orchestrated his own election loss in all this swing states run by Republicans. And in 2024 he wiill rig the election for himself rather thar his opposition.

Pretty much everyone that has looked at the votes in the USA should be able to tell how corrupt the voting system has become in many states. At least in my personal life, all the people that still believe everything is great are the shut in's that get ALL of their information from MSM outlets.

Even if they do go to internet for information, it is still MSM outlets.

If Biden stated out loud on a major news outlet interview " Yeah, we cheated. So what? What is anyone going to do about it?" The most that would happen is he would finish his term without further consequence and the official white house statement would be that he misspoke.

We have reached a point where getting elections secure is no longer possible.
It goes back to voter ID and the ridiculous notion that idea is racist. We used to have rules and standards in place to at least minimize the possibility of fraud.

It is what it is at this point, I am so sad that I can do nothing to fix things for my young grandkids that will grow up in a country that is tearing itself down.

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
And this is just what they were able to find. Good guess the fraud was 100x worse. 😀

Why is one guess any better than another, especially when contrasted against an accredited count?

a reply to: Klassified

As fraught with distrust as the US electoral systems are, do any of you naysayers have a better and fairer alternative?

... and one compliant with the US Constitution? Or do you just toss that old thing out?

originally posted by: Dandandat3
I wouldn't protest too much; 3d-Chess removed.

Why wants to be the president in the aftermath of Covid-19, withdrawal from Afghanistan and a new war in the Ukraine?

Certainly not the egotistical Donald Trump who can't tolerate anything but winning. He probably orchestrated his own election loss in all this swing states run by Republicans. And in 2024 he wiill rig the election for himself rather thar his opposition.

3D Chess?

I doubt that most politicians could win at checkers against school kids, without cheating.

a reply to: chr0naut

Roll it back to the old hanging chads, at least 2000 election was more about Florida incompetence than wide spread distrust.

Have the fed develop any electronic system they wish to use, and leave it open to cross checks by each political party for security and honesty, as well as a validated third party organizations.

No ID no vote...

each ballot should have to be verified to count.

any county says no to observers, and blacks out the windows immediate investigation opened by appropriate authorities.

GA and FL are two pretty good voting laws to emulate across the country if we want to stick with electronic counting.

ETA: In general sticking to the topic, cook county is as crooked as they come and thats a well known fact in the state of GA.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: chr0naut

Roll it back to the old hanging chads, at least 2000 election was more about Florida incompetence than wide spread distrust.

Have the fed develop any electronic system they wish to use, and leave it open to cross checks by each political party for security and honesty, as well as a validated third party organizations.

No ID no vote...

each ballot should have to be verified to count.

any county says no to observers, and blacks out the windows immediate investigation opened by appropriate authorities.

GA and FL are two pretty good voting laws to emulate across the country if we want to stick with electronic counting.

ETA: In general sticking to the topic, cook county is as crooked as they come and thats a well known fact in the state of GA.

All good ideas.

In Australia and New Zealand we don't allow voting machines, and there is a register of names and details (an electoral roll), which has to be 'sight verified' and names crossed off the list, before electoral officers will hand out a ballot form.

Electoral rolls are secret, only available to the electoral commission and their officers, however previous electoral rolls are available as a 'walk list' which can be used for verification of electoral details, and for political campaigning. These 'walk lists' are also not public documents and are only distributed to specific registered officials of registered parties, on the proviso that they are held in confidence and will be destroyed at the conclusion of the campaign.

In addition to one person, one vote legislation, if someone does not vote, they are fined, so voting is 'sort-of' mandatory.

This prevents someone else voting 'on behalf of' someone, and ensures that there aren't vast swathes of unused 'voting identities' just waiting to be abused.

If someone's name is crossed out twice, then they are considered to possibly have voted twice and can expect to be investigated and possibly fined.

a reply to: chr0naut

As fraught with distrust as the US electoral systems are, do any of you naysayers have a better and fairer alternative?

It's quite easy. Enforce the laws and rules in place for elections.

... and one compliant with the US Constitution? Or do you just toss that old thing out?

It is the left that hates "that old thing", not the right. The laws we have ARE compliant in most cases, but what good are laws and rules if they are not enforced?

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: chr0naut

As fraught with distrust as the US electoral systems are, do any of you naysayers have a better and fairer alternative?

It's quite easy. Enforce the laws and rules in place for elections.

... and one compliant with the US Constitution? Or do you just toss that old thing out?

It is the left that hates "that old thing", not the right. The laws we have ARE compliant in most cases, but what good are laws and rules if they are not enforced?

The rules are enforced. There have been numerous court cases with people prosecuted.

... And both Democrats and Republicans hold to US Constitution, they also occasionally try to do things adjudged as counter to it.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Klassified

As fraught with distrust as the US electoral systems are, do any of you naysayers have a better and fairer alternative?

a) paper ballots only, no electronic machines

b) nation wide Voter ID mandatory for all voting methods

c) one day elections

d) voting by mail is only for certain exigent circumstances, ballots must be requested by the Voter, Voter ID must be presented with the ballot request, all such ballot requests must be recorded and preserved

e) all ballots are counted and stored in the precinct where they are cast, and are never to leave said location until archived no sooner than two years after the election.

ETA: oh, and

f) any ballots that do not conform to all chain-of-custody requirements are declared null and void.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Klassified

As fraught with distrust as the US electoral systems are, do any of you naysayers have a better and fairer alternative?

a) paper ballots only, no electronic machines

b) nation wide Voter ID mandatory for all voting methods

c) one day elections

d) voting by mail is only for certain exigent circumstances, ballots must be requested by the Voter, Voter ID must be presented with the ballot request, all such ballot requests must be recorded and preserved

e) all ballots are counted and stored in the precinct where they are cast, and are never to leave said location until archived no sooner than two years after the election.

Perfect.
We have to add citizenship requirements now.
And please please let's figure out a litmus test greater than liking cookies.
A free cookie will sway millions of non voters to vote nowadays.
It went to far in the last dozen years.
We need a litmus test.
Like if you get a free cookie to vote, and you did for a cookie, you fail the test and disqualify your vote.
I mean make it easy.

a reply to: chr0naut

Everyone who can vote should have a SSN. One vote per SSN. Very easy to track via SSN where you have worked and resided because your W-2 holds it. This make sure only one vote per state occurs.

It is not that hard. You die you are removed. You are added when you turn 18 to verify.

Mail In Ballots work the same way. One vote per SSN. Voter roles are already there.

Why do they not do it? Because it is easier to call Voter ID racist and fix elections. The only president to ever create a way to counter fraud was Donald Trump. It is still part of DHS.

It is not hard to query a database of 180 million registered voters during an election.

a reply to: Klassified

This time they will openly cheat.

What are we going to do?

Really.

What?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Klassified

This time they will openly cheat.

What are we going to do?

Really.

What?

Unfortunately, probably the same thing we did last time, only louder.

They will deny, we will comply.