a reply to:
DISRAELI2
I think that verse 5 speaks to this, as well:
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
NIV:
In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
NASB:
Have this attitude ]in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus,
If Paul is speaking here of Christ's
kenosis, and then he's telling us to have the same mind as had Christ, he is speaking of a divestment of
our own potentiality. I can be selfish I can put myself first, I can make me the most important person in the room. But I should
choose not to,
as did Christ.
Here's an analogy. I often work in analogies, and I admit that most analogies break down pretty quickly when trying to analogize divine realities with
worldly comparisons. This one is no different, but I'll give it a shot.
There's a thread right now about some 50 year-old pervert who declared himself a ilttle girl and was allowed to compete in a girls' swimming
competition, to the point of being allowed to undress in the locker room with the little girls.
Now, if I were the father of a young girl at that competition, I'd not permit it. Honestly, my first reaction would be to simply beat the pervert to
a pulp and leave him as a quivering mass of blood and mush.
However, that would probably end up with me in prison and not being there for my
daughter for the next several years. Not an optimum outcome.
So, I'd have to look for another alternative that would be just as - if not more - effective in achieving my desired end of getting this pervert out
of my daughter's locker room.
My strongest urge, that which would express my nature as a protector of my family and a man who wants to see wrongs put to right, would be to pummel
the life out of this creep. But, I'd have to divert myself of that urge.
This wouild be - at the risk of sounding like I'm being somewhat sacreligious, which I am
not - kind an emptying myself of myself - a minor
personal
kenosis. I'd have to lay down my primary and primal nature and choose to do something that would be more in line with what is right in
the long run. I would not stop being what I am, but would have to redirect, in obedience to what is a better route,
I told you it was in imperfect analogy.
I don't see that Jesus completely divested himself of his deity in the incarnation; rather he submitted that divine nature to the need at hand so that
"the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so." Granted, there was likely some kind of evolution of his own understanding of his own nature
and being. That's way beyond our paygrade. But I hold that being 100% God means being 100% God.
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edit on 2023 12 15 by AwakeNotWoke because: edits.