Tucker with UFO whistleblower Dave Grusch.

a reply to: CataclysmicRockets

It’s one of the hotspots for missing people, that David Paulides writes about in his Missing 411 books.

UFO’s, missing people, and this Creature phenomenon all seem to be intertwined with the public lands. Notice a lot of these stories of close in counters and abduction takes place in the woods, or driving through them.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: CataclysmicRockets

It’s one of the hotspots for missing people, that David Paulides writes about in his Missing 411 books.

UFO’s, missing people, and this Creature phenomenon all seem to be intertwined with the public lands. Notice a lot of these stories of close in counters and abduction takes place in the woods, or driving through them.

I also remember a story about the National Guard moving Bigfoots off Mt ST. Helen before the eruption, that's another rabbit hole. And that's all we have been given is rabbit holes.

Very good reply. Unfortunately too many enthusiasts ignore the question of evidence or even worse, accept anecdotal evidence, because he sounds credible 🙄

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint
a reply to: CataclysmicRockets

Excellent interview. I find Grusch extremely believable.

I liked how Grusch said "we're still here, they haven't done anything to us so why don't we start talking about it". I do believe disclosure is right around the corner!

Why do you need disclosure. If you think the evidence is so prevalent, go round it up yourself. I like to star gaze and can prove the existence of something like Jupiter with my own telescope. Would like to even get into amateur radio astronomy. Amateur astronomers and radio enthusiasts verified Sputnik, the Apollo missions, out spy satellites, and often find meteorites and comets before the professionals, yet no real evidence of extraterrestrials visiting earth. Unless you go with the cons and falsehoods people believe from the inability of the ufology community to police itself of fraud. And it’s been known for years the US government hides projects by taking advantage of the UFO community.

originally posted by: vance2
Very good reply. Unfortunately too many enthusiasts ignore the question of evidence or even worse, accept anecdotal evidence, because he sounds credible 🙄

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: TheGoondockSaint
a reply to: CataclysmicRockets

Excellent interview. I find Grusch extremely believable.

I liked how Grusch said "we're still here, they haven't done anything to us so why don't we start talking about it". I do believe disclosure is right around the corner!

Why do you need disclosure. If you think the evidence is so prevalent, go round it up yourself. I like to star gaze and can prove the existence of something like Jupiter with my own telescope. Would like to even get into amateur radio astronomy. Amateur astronomers and radio enthusiasts verified Sputnik, the Apollo missions, out spy satellites, and often find meteorites and comets before the professionals, yet no real evidence of extraterrestrials visiting earth. Unless you go with the cons and falsehoods people believe from the inability of the ufology community to police itself of fraud. And it’s been known for years the US government hides projects by taking advantage of the UFO community.

Another thing to ponder is back in the 40's through the 90's even all common folk have for evidence was camera's and tape recorders. Today we still have the same and any Scientists who have better tech are still puzzled at phenomena's and still have no answers. With Nasa and the Government you never get a straight answer, and apparently that's the new big issue, well bigger than before the last decade.

I am a firm believer in alien presence on Earth. I have seen a dozen of sky events in my lifetime.

I stopped the video almost in the beginning where Grush takes his turn saying something along the lines of 'We have alien bodies and intact crafts'.
Seriously?
In military combat from the beginning of wars, to save wounded is a priority. Now let's assume a crashed craft with bodies all over around or inside the vessel. We are not talking crashed craft in the middle of the New York city. Aliens would have to ...a must to recover the wounded and the tech.

I don't believe we have alien bodies or any technology. Otherwise I would be very disappointed in our guests from deep space.

cheers)

a reply to: DaydreamerX

If the craft and occupant biologics were created for a specific purpose, fulfilled said purpose, and was discarded. Why would they try and recover it?

Will we as humans ever go through the trouble of retrieving the probes we sent out?

originally posted by: DaydreamerX
I am a firm believer in alien presence on Earth. I have seen a dozen of sky events in my lifetime.

I stopped the video almost in the beginning where Grush takes his turn saying something along the lines of 'We have alien bodies and intact crafts'.
Seriously?
In military combat from the beginning of wars, to save wounded is a priority. Now let's assume a crashed craft with bodies all over around or inside the vessel. We are not talking crashed craft in the middle of the New York city. Aliens would have to ...a must to recover the wounded and the tech.

I don't believe we have alien bodies or any technology. Otherwise I would be very disappointed in our guests from deep space.

cheers)

Think about it over the Nevada desert they built a base for Military tech and mostly RADAR, they found that they could down these crafts with it. And take in account they could be of this/our own world somehow perhaps from inside it.

originally posted by: RustEShackelFord
a reply to: DaydreamerX

If the craft and occupant biologics were created for a specific purpose, fulfilled said purpose, and was discarded. Why would they try and recover it?

Will we as humans ever go through the trouble of retrieving the probes we sent out?

I remember when youtube 1st started and on or about a year later there was this video of a EBU and it was old school voice to text from a supposed interveiw from a nurse that supposed cared for a living EBU after the Roswell Crash. And during this interview they explained they was essentially biological robots and the mind to them was beamed from another source. And there ways and lifestyles was explained and where far different than ours. I wish I could find that video still. Long and very interesting.

originally posted by: RustEShackelFord
a reply to: DaydreamerX

If the craft and occupant biologics were created for a specific purpose, fulfilled said purpose, and was discarded. Why would they try and recover it?

Will we as humans ever go through the trouble of retrieving the probes we sent out?

So, aliens are sending vessels to one way mission? But then what about recovering technology? Was it also meant to be abandoned? They cannot leave on purpose a 'probe'. It is more than a probe if found.

I don't follow your line of thought at this moment.

a reply to: DaydreamerX

Its probably possible, to Them a vessel with occupants having carried out their purpose might not be worth recovering. Its also possibly probable the occupants are not what you would call the actual alien either.

They also seem to be able to control electricity with something like occultism not fully understood, the more I look into that the more I dont think I want to.

You`re right. Craft was the wrong word to use, humans have crafts we can pilot. They have some sort of vessel to travel in.

I'd like to ask a (living) U.S. President how he feels about not being told any of this when in office, but learning about it now from a government employee giving an interview, with no fear of being punished.

"Do you believe him, Mr. President? If so, why do you think its OK for him to tell the world today, when nobody would tell you much of anything about UFOs/Aliens when you were in charge of the Federal Government and its agencies?"

originally posted by: WeMustCare
I'd like to ask a (living) U.S. President how he feels about not being told any of this when in office, but learning about it now from a government employee giving an interview, with no fear of being punished.

"Do you believe him, Mr. President? If so, why do you think its OK for him to tell the world today, when nobody would tell you much of anything about UFOs/Aliens when you were in charge of the Federal Government and its agencies?"

Not trying to be political but Trump did create Space Force. And when he did this I thought it was a rather odd thing to do. Maybe Trump knew more than a deep state would think he knew? Maybe this is why the whole war on Trump is really about?

a reply to: WeMustCare

Fantastic question.

Perhaps they lied about being briefed?


There are a lot of career people whose power and influence surpasses that of a one or two term president.

Ufology debates seem more like fanboys debating fan fiction like Star Wars or Narnia. It’s not actual physical evidence and physics.

An interview and a report are not actual evidence. They are tools of propaganda and controlled opposition. Covid. We don’t trust those government/ big pharmaceutical studies. Some guy gives an interview related to government playing to our confirmation bias and it’s truth?

Personally. It would be harder for me to stomach China has technology the USA can’t counter vs UFO’s were actually extraterrestrial. So? What is the truth.

The Chinese ballon that flew over the USA was a UFO until the USA government was sorta forced to come clean.

a reply to: CataclysmicRockets

Thank you for sharing this interview. Halfway though it now. I found the mention of "Bigalow Aerospace" somewhat interesting

There seems to be a real insidious push to demonise and smear aliens currently. Little hints, dark murmurs and inter dimensional origins. As if they’re trying to condition us all to be fearful and suspicious.

I guess the only reason for that is they are coming, or will soon reveal themselves, and TPTB don’t want any of us on the side of our visitors - if, indeed, they are visitors.

The shift in narrative is palpable. Seems they are scared of something. Maybe losing control. However, while I believe aliens exist, it’s going to take more than Grusch, Tucker and all the rest spouting words for most people out there to believe.

a reply to: DaydreamerX

We don't recover our tech in Space...there's a mission planned to remove space junk in the near future.

If a military or secret group recovers a craft with bodies then that race of ET would know exactly who to contact to get their stuff back? You think they would?

a reply to: ARM19688

Our government and media does this about various groups of humans everyday. "Little green men" definitely has roots in racist language. Why the media doesn't describe ET as being Demi-God-like? I think because benevolent demi God like beings are a threat to the US Government and other world powers. US government has branded itself as the spokesman of Earth and basically the Universe.

Since for some unknown reason my whole ATS account was deleted or destroyed I had to set up a new one. I use to be Spaceflyr as my screen name. My post on my work experience with Raytheon as a microwave engineer was also deleted. So let’s get to it shall we?
Most of the Tic Tac stuff seen by navy pilots are manufactured at Plant 42 using Meta Materials and positron excitation to achieve fight and move in unconventional ways. Most of the UAP craft are OURS not extraterrestrial. However there are rare incidents that do have extraterrestrial origins including craft from other civilizations outside our solar system. Your own government will NEVER admit the advances we have made in aerospace technology. This is done for two primary reasons, to keep your advantage in the world of global dominance and to keep ahead of every other country that wants to harm us. It’s called strategic superiority and dominance. It’s the Space Force Motto. Your own government, JSOC to be exact, is the one perpetrating all the deception to normal American citizens including abducting persons and cattle mutilations. Your own military and contractor companies that work in these classified programs are playing “science” with unlimited budgets and there are no rules really. It’s just “what can we invent today with all this money and no oversight from congress?”
Don’t believe what I say, do your own homework, talk to real people that worked in these special access programs (SAP’s).
Not the BS A-holes who try and make a living selling self produced books that claim fantastic stories and statements.
The David Wilcox, Emery Smiths, Bob Lazars Louis Elizondo’s of the world are spreading misinformation faster than you can take your next breath. These idiots are so desperate to be that “One” as Steven Greer puts it, “to break the ice on disclosure.” Greer brags but never reveals anything himself. Makes all kinds statements about who came to him and how people on the inside contacted him and gave him information! Are you kidding me? Seriously people? He’s a civilian retired doctor, period. NO ONE AND I MEAN NOBODY would risk the imprisonment or loss of a great pension for these idiot fools. Another self grandstanding self promoter to sell so called “outdoor meet and greet with aliens”, his term not mine.
After retirement from Raytheon I know of few people that do work in these SAP’s and I can assure you NOBODY is talking to anyone except Grusch and he is a hand picked puppet of JSOC to spread even more disinformation and keep everyone looking up in the skies. It’s been a long career and even the Aurora Space Plane that the public is being fed bits and pieces on is OLD news. It’s a Mach 17 trans-atmospheric space plane capable of LEO flight, (low earth orbital) flight. It’s been in production since 2013 and there are eight of these craft in JSOC’s inventory of classified aircraft assets. We also have the Dark Star, the Pumpkin Seed, The fully Meta Material hull with blended ceramics Wave Rider, that’s the new baby that they are testing and can hit Mach 30. Your tax dollars at work folks, fact. Your welcome.


a reply to: CataclysmicRockets

I get the feeling Tucker’s a misinformation mouthpiece