White Flight of another kind

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: cocnutcrab883

"Look ATS a poor commented on my thread! How dare they!!" For someone who tries to display this aura of good moral character you sure are quick to pass judgements with absolutely no facts. I can't help that you give out plenty of material to work with as you seem to use ATS as almost a personal journal.

You mean like calling me a bored housewife, or many other assumptions you’ve made about me in several threads?

Yeah, what's with all the insults?

I'm not seeing any real discussion.

This poster stalks my posts and writes weird insulting things and assumptions.
Has had comments removed for manners violations (sometimes multiples in one OP) but for some reason just can’t stop.

You know they say if you don’t have haters you’re not being your authentic self. I really believe that.
So if this person doesn’t like me I must be doing something right. The people that I often engage with on here, (even ones I sometimes disagree with in a respectful manner) broaden my thinking, my writing. I truly enjoy the online camaraderie we have.
Yes I do often write about similar topics, cuz…um that’s what interest me.

If a person is interested in dogmen, that is what they are going to write about.
I love the economy, housing, food, and every day regular life. Some of it makes me shake my head. Some of it is shocking, some feels familiar of things I’ve already experienced in my life.

I wonder if some of these topics hit too close to home for that poster. I learned that not every Flight/Fight reaction is the same, some is portrayed as anger.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Your posts topics are usually recognizable, even if I can’t see the posters name on my iPhone before I click.

Always enjoy your threads, even if I don’t always entirely agree with you .

Keep posting!

a reply to: Annee

The only insults are the assumptions made by OP that I must be poor, and that I have bad reading comprehension. I didn’t insult OP in this thread. I’m pointing out contradicting behaviors and thought patterns on her part as a cumulative sum of all her threads/posts. OP doesn’t like being called out and declares everyone loves her posts. OP doesn’t know how to respond to me calling her out so she tries to insult me and tells me to go away, calling me negative. I’m not negative, I’m pointing out things she simply doesn’t like. And just want to know why she posts all these meaningless threads under the guise of “I’m not this but….” I’m not wrong, OP has a plethora of material that proves this and continually posts the same type threads weekly. Yes, I guess it makes me a fan cause I read them right? It’s not going to stop me from pointing out the hypocrisy just like OP isn’t going to stop posting things she thinks is relevant. Guess her and I will just have to agree to disagree

a reply to: cocnutcrab883

And just want to know why she posts all these meaningless threads under the guise of “I’m not this but….”

Meaningless to whom? Again if so meaningless why are you here? Because you love it. You really do. See when something is meaningless to me, I give it zero energy, which I’m going to do to your responses right after this.

Dude, you know how many people have messaged me to come to other sites when this goes down. You know I’ve been invited on a podcast? You know when the site went down temporarily and I headed over to reddit and other sites how many people said they looked forward to my posts and were so worried. There have been people that have lurked for years and created accounts specifically to respond or message me. I’d say, all those things tell me these threads are indeed very worthy!

I will not respond to any more drivel on this post, or any other post you follow of mine.

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: JAGStorm

Your posts topics are usually recognizable, even if I can’t see the posters name on my iPhone before I click.

Always enjoy your threads, even if I don’t always entirely agree with you .

Keep posting!

Thank you, I appreciate that.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I really really enjoyed that laugh. (Picture J. Jonah Jameson in Spiderman) As someone among all the communities you may have a handful people that like you, but you really have no idea how many laugh at your expense and that’s putting it nicely. Keeps your friends close as they say..

Had to get one more humblebrag in, good luck with your podcast and other communities if things should ever play out that way. It’s just JAG’s world and we’re all living in it!

Something is happening here....it seem like a huge influx of aggressive trolls as new members. Perhaps that's the plan.

I find your threads a measure of sanity in an otherwise mostly chaotic environment.

But if it wasn't for the chaotic environment....I wouldn't bother to even log on






topic.....gringo here in a mostly Hispanic village. All I can say is....."otro tazon de pesole porfavor."

originally posted by: lilzazz
Something is happening here....it seem like a huge influx of aggressive trolls as new members. Perhaps that's the plan.

I find your threads a measure of sanity in an otherwise mostly chaotic environment.

But if it wasn't for the chaotic environment....I wouldn't bother to even log on

Thank you, I’ve noticed both.
Some new lovely new members, and some not so lovely.
It’s ok, usually people are overly aggressive because they are hurting inside and want to take it out on innocent people.
I mean think how stupid it sounds, someone is mad that I post a lot about things I’m interested in. Okay. 😁

The conspiracy part…..I’m getting a lot of solicitations to move to another platform.. I haven’t but wonder if some of these attacks are part of that. I have very thick skin, so I’m not leaving so easily! I love ATS!

a reply to: JAGStorm

.I’m getting a lot of solicitations to move to another platform.. I haven’t but wonder if some of these attacks are part of that.

I get the same solicitations. How would the attacks be part of that? You mean to drive you away from ATS so this site could go all MAGA.

I

originally posted by: JAGStorm

The Whitey, white, part of me would say, child abuse, lack of childhood, lack of any other life other than study study study isn’t life. When some American families get an exchange student from Korea they are shocked at how little the student does themselves. Their parents, grandparents and family revolve their life around the student studying. What is often not talked about is the extreme mental, emotional and even physical abuse that takes place if students don’t achieve perfection in grades. This means no A-, no A’s Only A + or any other extra credit.

I don't know if it is child abuse; making you kids study isn't child abuse.

But it has been my experience that it's not a great way to educate children and can lead to a non well rounded education.

I work for an engineering firm and hire interns and new grads every year.

It seems true that disproportionately Asians have great educational resumes; as a result I've hired many over the years. Unfortunately the vast majority don't work out because while they are highly educated, they have very little practical real world knowledge and initiative. If its not written down for them or explained in great detail they do not know how to proceed. They are not great problem solvers. Unfortunately much of Engineering isn't written down. Engineering often doesn't follow the theoretical science 100% and there is always a need to bang your head on it to get to work right.

One thing I do with interns and new hires is sit them down infront of a problem and tell them to work on their own to solve it. I give them a no pressure dead line and make it clear I don't expect that they be a wize at it right away. I explain that I find the struggle to be a good learning experience; and that is what I am interested in for them, that I am not necessarily interested in having the problem solved. Then I tell them not to ask me questions for at least a day. The people who have the type of education being discribe will sit for days with out doing anything because they don't know how to get themselves to even start.

a reply to: Dandandat3

One thing I do with interns and new hires is sit them down infront of a problem and tell them to work on their own to solve it. I give them a no pressure dead line and make it clear I don't expect that they be a wize at it right away. I explain that I find the struggle to be a good learning experience; and that is what I am interested in for them, that I am not necessarily interested in having the problem solved. Then I tell them not to ask me questions for at least a day. The people who have the type of education being discribe will sit for days with out doing anything because they don't know how to get themselves to even start.

You just gave me work PTSD. My potential former boss gave me a problem. I did figure out there was no answer, but she wanted to see the work up. She was a great boss and is still trying to get me to go back but the company was too cheap.
Things on paper indeed don’t always translate to good workers!

a reply to: lilzazz

I get the same solicitations. How would the attacks be part of that? You mean to drive you away from ATS so this site could go all MAGA.

There might be some weird management/moderator wars happening we don’t know about.
I run a few social media pages and people are always trying to steal folks instead of just having something good to offer in the first place.

a reply to: Dandandat3

My mom always said: "It's not what you know, it's knowing where to find it".

She believed in having an open mind to all things,

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Dandandat3

My mom always said: "It's not what you know, it's knowing where to find it".

She believed in having an open mind to all things,

Agreed; the employee who is good at finding the solution is always preferable to the employee that "knows" the solution. The later will eventually be faced with a situations he doesn't know about.

I went on a job interview a few years back and the CEO and I hit it off right away. We spent hours talking in his office about how his business worked. Not my area of expertise, but a service I do purchase from business like his from time to time. Eventually he brought me over to the chief engineer for that portion of the interview.

The guy was a complete tool, asking me questions about engineering that you really don't remember a few years out of college. Academic type stuff that really has no bearing on real world development. Those few times you might need that type of information best to go look it up than try to really on faulty human memory.

I had to stop the interview right in the middle; turning away from the chief engineer and back to the CEO saying that I don't think this job is for me and I was sorry to have wasted his time. The CEO walked me out and practically started crying on my shoulder about how he had interviewed quite a few people for the job and it always turned out that his chief engineer would chase the candidate out. He almost beg for my advice on what they could do to not have that happen next time. I told him he needed to stop relying on the supposed know-it-all and hire people with versatility; that it might be scary for the company at first but in the end they would be better for it.

a reply to: Dandandat3

Yeah, that's not good. A lot of idiots with degrees.

I have a natural ability to organize. In my mind I see "boxes" and how they connect - kind of in 3D.

Too bad I don't have a math ability to go along with it.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Dandandat3

My mom always said: "It's not what you know, it's knowing where to find it".

She believed in having an open mind to all things,

Would your mom have minded if I use that saying?

originally posted by: NorthOS

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Dandandat3

My mom always said: "It's not what you know, it's knowing where to find it".

She believed in having an open mind to all things,

Would your mom have minded if I use that saying?

Of course not

originally posted by: JAGStorm
I watched something this morning that had me cracking up.

Since I was a little girl we heard this term “White Flight”
What it meant to me was when black folks started moving in white neighborhoods and they didn’t like it so they would start moving en mass, ie “white flight”. Lots of articles, news stories, and research was done on this.

There was always, always a spin, that the black folks were bringing something negative, something unsavory and that the whites were escaping. (I’m not saying I believe this, but this is how it was portrayed)
Then for the longest time, we didn’t hear much, until now.

White flight of a different kind. Asians are the fastest growing minority in the US.
Here

Data from the 2020 U.S. Census Bureau show that there are approximately 20.7 million Asian and Pacific Islanders in the United States—comprising 6.2 % of the U.S. population—that make up the fastest growing minority group in the United States.

So what is happening is that Asians are moving into areas and they are raising the bar very high, in schools and certain people don’t like that very much. So what are they doing. They are moving to less competitive areas. 😱

Here

Fear of Competition? Research Shows That When Asian Students Move In, White Families Move Out In wealthy, educated communities, evidence emerges of a new form of “white flight.”

cities like Cupertino) where white families disenrolled from local schools following an influx of Asian children, with some parents openly complaining of increased academic competition from the new arrivals.

Let me tell you, as an Asian American person, and former student this is one of the most interesting topics to me.
Some would say YES, raise the bar, everyone should emulate the Asians and their studious behaviors and the parents that “support” them.

The Whitey, white, part of me would say, child abuse, lack of childhood, lack of any other life other than study study study isn’t life. When some American families get an exchange student from Korea they are shocked at how little the student does themselves. Their parents, grandparents and family revolve their life around the student studying. What is often not talked about is the extreme mental, emotional and even physical abuse that takes place if students don’t achieve perfection in grades. This means no A-, no A’s Only A + or any other extra credit.

Anything other than perfection isn’t accepted or celebrated. I’ll never forget when I did a sport, I beat all my classmates, I EVEN beat boys in my grade, yet I didn’t beat the girl that was a grade older and my mom scolded me why.

The Asian side of me think a good dose of discipline, values, and bettering ourselves is sorely needed in some of these schools. Some of these parents are doing their children a disservice by removing them from the reality of their future. I also wonder where are they moving and how that changes the dynamic of those places.

I think we will see a lot more of this in the coming years.

Interesting observation. Sometimes it is better to be a big fish in a small pond. Getting into top colleges is super competitive. I can see why some white parents might want to move to change schools if the demographics changed and it disadvantages their child. A really intelligent kid can go from being a top student to just being middle of the pack if all the students at the school are super competitive.

Personally, I don't think that kind of academic competitiveness is healthy.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It's true, JAGStorm! I'm always seeing ads that Hot Single Asians are living in my area! Raising the bar indeed!

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