United Nations Security Council demand an immediate humanitarian ceasefire - US vetoed

a reply to: Lazy88
I don't think people who are fighting for there God care much about money

a reply to: FlyersFan
I'm not saying they should

Just pointing out anyone who thinks they have some kind of power to stop Israel is a fool

originally posted by: Markovian2
a reply to: FlyersFan
I'm not saying they should

Just pointing out anyone who thinks they have some kind of power to stop Israel is a fool

Or Hamas?

originally posted by: Markovian2
a reply to: Lazy88
I don't think people who are fighting for there God care much about money

Yet. The leaders of Hamas are billionaires?

a reply to: Lazy88
Believe as u wish

Billionaires yet oddly not interested in the value of the country they run they might as well of set that money on fire they have full control and could of made themselves a productive country that is profitable instead they burn it to the ground

Dose that sound to you like the work of people who care about money

If it is there not very good at it

Never mind.

originally posted by: Markovian2
a reply to: Lazy88
Believe as u wish

Billionaires yet oddly not interested in the value of the country they run they might as well of set that money on fire they have full control and could of made themselves a productive country that is profitable instead they burn it to the ground

Dose that sound to you like the work of people who care about money

If it is there not very good at it

But you just posted Hamas isn’t interested in money and the Rothschilds control everything? So how are they billionaire leaders of Hamas?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Lazy88

Then why are people not calling for an investigation into the 70 killed on Friday Oct 13 along Salah-al-Din Road. Funny the media you don’t trust all the sudden becomes trusted when they repeat Hamas lies. And the same media dropped the Salah-al-Din Road narrative when it started to look like Hamas lied about an Israeli air strike, and Hamas booby trapped the declared safe route.

We are also seeing videos made by Hamas and locals on their phones of what we would call children 8 to 15 dressed up in all black, calling out positions with many carrying weapons of some kind. I don't think people know who the IDF is fighting over there. Within a population of 2+ million how many have risen to support Hamas? We have seen over and over again how the extremist side has had little issues with strapping a bomb to a kid and having the kid run into a group of soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan so why is it so hard for people here to understand the communities are also in the fight at some level. Those who do not want to be a part of it have fled already.

We need to understand they feel dying while fighting Jews is their fast-track ticket to heaven. That is what they have been told all their lives and they are eager to get there and that is why for them to die or use the civilian population as part of their forces is not a big deal to them.

The 70% women and children seem like some pushed narrative as we see streets filled with men, but I guess only women and children are killed. How deaths are reported is "The figures do not give the cause of death, but describe the dead as victims of "Israeli aggression". They also do not distinguish fighters from civilians.

If we go back in time on Nov 13 they reported over 11,000 dead. That is about 300 total per day starting Oct 8.
On Dec 9 they reported 17,000 dead, so that is now 200 per day dead since Nov 13. We do not know the true makeup of the dead if the numbers are correct or even what they died of or who killed them.

Exactly.Islam is a death cult.Israel should give them what they want,their 72 virgins to abuse.

a reply to: Lazy88
I never stated they control everything infact I didn't even say Rothschild alone they are just a better known example

But it wouldn't be the first time in history a countrys economy crumble at the hand of people who have more money than the USA dose debt

originally posted by: Markovian2
a reply to: Lazy88
I never stated they control everything infact I didn't even say Rothschild alone they are just a better known example

But it wouldn't be the first time in history a countrys economy crumble at the hand of people who have more money than the USA dose debt

So? The world dances to the Rothschilds, and they control currency? But can’t get Hamas to stop firing rockets into Gaza, can’t stop the supplies for rockets into Gaza, and can’t break a few Hamas billionaires?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Waterglass

Are you still trying to get a Nobel Peace Prize or that year end bonus? Sure you have an opinion yet its obviously biased.

Unlike you who has no bias whatsoever , if my opinion is biased it's because I will always speak out against Genocide regardless of who is committing it , when all of this is over and Netanyahu is either in the Hague or accidentally fell down some stairs we will see who was right and who was wrong.

No matter what they rest of the world thinks or feels genocide is going to happen, without a doubt. It will either be Israeli's or Palenistinians/Hamas. This is showtime; somebody is going to get wiped out.

Best case senario: Palestinians who don't support Hamas join forces with the IDF and get rid of every last one.

a reply to: nugget1

Hamas sadistic beings along with all the terrorist groups supporting them needs to be eradicated from the face of earth.

Turkish president Erdoğan has called for the UN to be reformed following yesterdays vote saying the world is bigger than 5 , he says the UN is a dysfunctional structure and that nothing can continue as normal after Gaza.

originally posted by: gortex
Turkish president Erdoğan has called for the UN to be reformed following yesterdays vote saying the world is bigger than 5 , he says the UN is a dysfunctional structure and that nothing can continue as normal after Gaza.

The U.N. is dysfunctional if it thinks Hamas shouldn’t be removed at any price.

a reply to: gortex

This guy? And county?

Turkey
Events of 2021


Freedom of Expression, Association, and Assembly

While most news outlets are owned by companies with close government links, independent media in Turkey mainly operate via online platforms but are subject to regular removal of content or prosecution for news coverage critical of senior government figures and members of President Erdoğan’s family or deemed to constitute an offense under Turkey’s highly restrictive Anti-Terror Law. At time of writing, 58 journalists and media workers were in prison or serving sentences for terrorism offenses because of their journalistic work or association with media.


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Maybe Erdoğan should worry about human rights in his own country first?

A report published by Haaretz shows the civilian death rate due to Israel's response to the Hamas attack is around 60% of those killed

Haaretz published an analysis by Yagil Levy, a sociology professor at the Open University of Israel, which found that in three earlier campaigns in Gaza, in the period from 2012-22, the ratio of civilian deaths to the total of those killed in airstrikes hovered at about 40%. That ratio declined to 33% in a bombing campaign earlier this year, called Operation Shield and Arrow.

In the first three weeks of the current operation, Swords of Iron, the civilian proportion of total deaths rose to 61%, in what Levy described as “unprecedented killing” for Israeli forces in Gaza. The ratio is significantly higher than the average civilian toll in all the conflicts around the world during the 20th century, in which civilians accounted for about half the dead, according to Levy.

“The broad conclusion is that extensive killing of civilians not only contributes nothing to Israel’s security, but that it also contains the foundations for further undermining it,” Levy concluded. “The Gazans who will emerge from the ruins of their homes and the loss of their families will seek revenge that no security arrangements will be able to withstand.”

The study confirms an investigation 10 days ago by the Israeli-Palestinian publication +972 Magazine and the Hebrew-language outlet Local Call, which found Israel was deliberately targeting residential blocks to cause mass civilian casualties in the hope people would turn on their Hamas rulers. The figures will make uneasy reading for the Biden administration, which is facing global criticism and isolation for vetoing a UN security council vote for a ceasefire on Friday.
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a reply to: gortex

A study based on this?

Several of the sources, who spoke to +972 and Local Call on the condition of anonymity, confirmed that the Israeli army has files on the vast majority of potential targets in Gaza — including homes — which stipulate the number of civilians who are likely to be killed in an attack on a particular target. This number is calculated and known in advance to the army’s intelligence units, who also know shortly before carrying out an attack roughly how many civilians are certain to be killed.

www.972mag.com...

Which should be obviously wrong now if Gaza civilians paid attention to warnings and evacuated.

Too bad Hamas uses neighborhoods and schools as rocket bases, and store and make rockets. The reason they are targeted. Not because they are “civilians”. Something ignored by you. And the fact Hamas reports their terror soldiers deaths as none combatants.

a reply to: Lazy88

Which should be obviously wrong now if Gaza civilians paid attention to warnings and evacuated.

They did evacuate , they were told to move to the safety of the South then Israel started bombing the South ... No safe places in Gaza now, United Nations.

Over 200 West Bank Palestinians have been killed by Israeli troops or settlers since the Oct. 7 , the West Bank is not Hamas controlled.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Lazy88



They did evacuate , they were told to move to the safety of the South then Israel started bombing the South ... No safe places in Gaza now, United Nations.

So. Your numbers are based on a study based on estimates based on no evacuations.

So? Israel is carpet bombing all of southern Gaza?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Lazy88
Over 200 West Bank Palestinians have been killed by Israeli troops or settlers since the Oct. 7 , the West Bank is not Hamas controlled.

Because there are no terrorist cells in the West Bank.?

I wish some cared about city crime as much as Israel taking out terrorists.

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originally posted by: gortex
Turkish president Erdoğan has called for the UN to be reformed following yesterdays vote saying the world is bigger than 5 , he says the UN is a dysfunctional structure and that nothing can continue as normal after Gaza.

Erdogan is an extremist Muslim nutcase. Always has been. He's a menace. He threatened to jump in and go to war with Israel if it went into Gaza. He's unstable and the Turkish people should remove him by force.

a reply to: Lazy88

So? Israel is carpet bombing all of southern Gaza?

Pretty much , Khan Yunis is the second largest urban area in the Gaza Strip.