President BIDEN Says He is Prepared to Send U.S. Troops to Die in Ukraine Fighting Russians.

Thursday, December 7, 2023

Increasingly INSANE President JOE BIDEN says, as Commander-In-Chief, he will send U.S. men and women to fight Russians and die for Ukraine, if Congress doesn't send the Billions of $$$ that Zelenskyy is demanding.

Earlier today Joe Biden threatened U.S. troop engagement with Russian troops if Congress doesn’t provide further funding for Ukraine.

As the premise is pushed, a failure to fund the Ukraine war means Russia will move beyond Ukraine into a NATO country.

The premise is nonsense.

Source: theconservativetreehouse.com...

Good Lord!

Why are Democrats sticking with this callous lunatic? 😳

-WeMustCare!

They’re so desperate for a war they will do anything including bringing us to the point of nuclear annihilation.

a reply to: WeMustCare

Zelensky is putting the pressure on...


Sending our men and women into Ukraine won't go over here in the U.S.

Crap. Election Day can't come soon enough!

a reply to: WeMustCare

Well, stop freaking out and read the article carefully. He's not going to send American troops to Ukraine. He's saying that the failure to provide Ukraine with the help it needs (giving ammunition and money) will result in Putin attacking other countries, including NATO allies, after he's done with Ukraine. And that will force the US to intervene to defend the NATO but that applies to NATO members and not Ukraine.

In other words, he's pressuring the Congress to give him funds by threatening it with the vision of the global conflict.

Now, whether his words have merit is up for a discussion. We don't know whether Putin wants to attack like half of Europe or he's merely after Ukraine. However, the history shows that the appeasement policy towards Hitler led to something everyone wanted to avoid, that is the World War II. It will be the same with Putin if he's not stopped in time.

But again, he's not talking about sending troops to Ukraine but to the NATO country, if attacked, so calm down.

So why US troops? Are we NATO all by ourselves? Seems to me Europe should be on the front-line fighting if it comes down to it! Or is this about favors owed to the Ukraine by the Bidens?

Biden is doing everythign the liberals said Trump would do and then some! IF we survive his presidency it will take decades to recover from the damage he's done.

originally posted by: ARM19688
They’re so desperate for a war they will do anything including bringing us to the point of nuclear annihilation.

Unfortunately, Biden's frequent use of "Armageddon", implies that he wants to initiate a huge war before leaving office in 13 months.

One example: apnews.com...

a reply to: twistedpuppy

How about no to both ideas.

We need to leave NATO. It should have been disbanded 30 years ago.

a reply to: Klassified

I don't know.

This increasingly unstable man is the Commander-in-Chief.

He's fantasized about Armageddon: apnews.com...

Bragged (again) last week about "the guy over there" who had codes to blow up the world: nypost.com...

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Crap. Election Day can't come soon enough!

The very thing that General Milley and Nancy Pelosi worried about with Lame Duck Trump, is likely to happen with lame duck Joe Biden.

Remember how Pelosi and Milley had a plan to not let Trump launch nuclear weapons after Democrats had stolen the 2020 election?

a reply to: twistedpuppy

Where Biden sends them to die is not important. What's important is that the callous old fool is willing to kill our sons and daughters to protect other borders, but doesn't give a rat's ass about protecting you and me (if you're in America) from the threats crossing our US-Mex border every damn hour of every day!

originally posted by: hangedman13
So why US troops? Are we NATO all by ourselves? Seems to me Europe should be on the front-line fighting if it comes down to it! Or is this about favors owed to the Ukraine by the Bidens?

All hypotheticals sound warm and fuzzy. But when it's time to pay $$$ or die, America ends up on the short end of the deal.

originally posted by: nugget1
Biden is doing everythign the liberals said Trump would do and then some! IF we survive his presidency it will take decades to recover from the damage he's done.

Actually, Americans are very resourceful and tenacious. We recovered from the Covid-19 lockdowns without any help from any other country, or from Joe Biden.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1
Biden is doing everythign the liberals said Trump would do and then some! IF we survive his presidency it will take decades to recover from the damage he's done.

Actually, Americans are very resourceful and tenacious. We recovered from the Covid-19 lockdowns without any help from any other country, or from Joe Biden.

I have not recovered from the covid lockdowns; it now takes $11,400.00 more to pay for the same basic living expenses as it did two years ago, and I can promise you my income has remained stagnant.
It IS going to take decades to return to the same standard of living for Americans-if it's even possible to do so at this point.

Things are not getting any better in my part of the world.

Gem Luster Secretary of Defense (de fence) Lloyd Austin also threatens . . . . . this is getting dangerous beyond comprehension ☠️

Who do these jerks think they are anyway. ⛔️

Defense Secretary Allegedly Threatens to Send Legislators’ Families to War w/Russia

The Biden administration and Pentagon are reportedly resorting to threats to cajole lawmakers into voting for another $61.4 billion in Ukraine aid. Congress has already authorized $100 billion to date.

“The Biden administration is openly threatening Americans over Ukraine. In a classified briefing in the House yesterday, defense secretary Lloyd Austin informed members that if they don’t appropriate more money for Zelensky, ‘we’ll send your uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia,’” conservative news host Tucker Carlson said Thursday on Twitter.

You don't expect people to read and comprehend, do you? I'm serious.

When you're in a cult, you listen and do. You do not think. You're thinking is done for you.

And that's what Republicans are in. A cult.

a reply to: twistedpuppy

originally posted by: hangedman13
So why US troops? Are we NATO all by ourselves? Seems to me Europe should be on the front-line fighting if it comes down to it! Or is this about favors owed to the Ukraine by the Bidens?

If Putin invades a NATO country after Ukraine, Europe would, by definition, be front-line fighting. NATO stands for North Atlantic Treaty Organization, so no, we are not NATO all by ourselves, but we are part of NATO, by a legally binding treaty, which says that an attack on one member is considered an attack on all members (Article V of the treaty). In other words, all for one and one for all--because that's the only way to defeat the kind of strategy used by Hitler where he picked off the smaller easy countries first, absorbed their resources and used them to make a bigger and bigger war machine and then moved on to the bigger countries. For all practical purposes, the US was the only country that COULD lead an alliance to stop Hitler after he had been going for a year or two, because of our superior resource base. That's where the strategy came from. Furthermore, it is still true today that the USA is the only country that could lead NATO. Without the US leadership, NATO would fall apart and there would be nothing stopping Putin from taking all the European countries he wants, just as Hitler did, with the probable exception of France and the UK--because they have their own independent nuclear weapons.

You should also note that the only time Article V was invoked, it was used to come to the aid of the US after the 9/11 attacks. NATO allies were deployed alongside US troops in Afghanistan for 20 years. If we failed to honor our treaty commitment to the other NATO countries after they honored their commitment to us, likewise NATO would fall apart and Putin wins again. That's basically Putin's strategy--divide and conquer.

Speaking of nuclear weapons, it's important to understand how we got to the present situation with Ukraine. After the Soviet Union came unzipped in late 1991, all the previous member nations were suddenly independent. It turned out that about a third of all the nuclear weapons in the former Soviet Union were in the possession of Ukraine, which would have made it the third largest nuclear power on the planet. Russia, along with the US, the UK, and much of Europe all thought that it was in their interests to have Ukraine not be in that position--particularly because there was a high likelihood that some of those weapons could make their way on to the international black market.

So, after a few years the Budapest Memorandum was negotiated and signed by Russia, Ukraine, the US, and the UK. It provided that Ukraine would transfer all its nuclear warheads back to Russia for elimination, and destroy all their strategic bombers and missiles. Which they did. Everyone involved realized that by doing that, Ukraine had no deterrent to being taken over by Russia, so one clause of the Memorandum provided that all the signatories would respect the territorial boundaries that were in existence at the time. Obviously, Putin blew through that one in 2014 when he took Crimea.

Another clause of the memorandum provided that signatory nations would be allowed to provide "assurance" to Ukraine that the provisions of the memorandum would be respected. That clause is why the US and UK were the first to provide economic and military assistance to Ukraine for self-defense after the Russian invasion of 2022. However, the Memorandum does NOT require that the US or UK send combatant troops to directly participate in fighting agains Russian troops, and we won't. It was specifically recognized at the time of the signing of the memorandum that, as nuclear powers, neither the UK nor the US was willing to get into a direct shooting war with another nuclear power, Russia.

Essentially, providing economic and military assistance to Ukraine today is the price we agreed to pay in 1994 in order to take Ukraine's nuclear weapons out of the equation. And it's actually a cheap price when you consider the amount of damage one or two loose nukes could do. (What if Al Qaeda had had nuclear warheads to work with instead of a few airliners?)

Putin is not going to invade anybody else, their target is Ukraine, Ukraine is a laundering money country with a willing idiot so democrats can pocket tax payer money.

The biggest lie of the democrats to keep supporting Ukraine is that putin will invade somebody else, this just to keep sending more tax payer dollars to keep the money flow going.

originally posted by: Disgusted123
You don't expect people to read and comprehend, do you? I'm serious.

When you're in a cult, you listen and do. You do not think. You're thinking is done for you.

And that's what Republicans are in. A cult.

a reply to: twistedpuppy

When you are dropping Biden's Iodine pills and feeling the radiation burn your eyes, all compliments of Joe Biden, it will still be everyone else who is in a cult, but not you. You've got this!