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UFO’s over West Bloomfield, Michigan. Oct 1, 2023

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posted on Dec, 10 2023 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: DaydreamerX
You seems to forget that those objects are not stationary.

I did not, that's why I said the best was to have both video and photos.


Picture quality you are talking about is greatly overestimated. Take a picture of a light bulb in motion and tell me what details you would see. You would have an exposure issue to say the least.

When taking a photo, if you know what you are doing and the camera allows it, you can use manual settings and try the correct settings to get the best photo possible.
As far as I know in video those possibilities are very limited.
In fact, we can see that the video, when compared to the photos, is overexposed.


In OP those object are somewhat fast. Given zoom used, it would be even more problematic to see details of an object in motion which is a light source of it's own.

Shutter speed would solve (or help solve) that problem.


I personally would prefer a video of the scene.

As I said, the best would be to have both, but it depends.

If someone is watching some strange object/light doing strange manoeuvres then video is the best option, as it will record that important part of the sighting.
If the object/light is just moving in a straight line then the best option is to try to get the best image possible, and that is done with photos.



posted on Dec, 10 2023 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP

I took two photos first and a video all within 45 seconds. You are so right the video shows the movement and the photos kinda show the object.

With a really good camera this would have looked much better. I was using IPhone12!

Thank you ArMaP!



posted on Dec, 10 2023 @ 02:34 PM
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That's crazy the department of energy called and asked you if you had missing time. I wonder if there was any close encounters of the 3rd or 4th kind that night.

Great job JJ, S&F

Where's Jim Oberg to debunk? Haha.... probably can't log in.



posted on Dec, 10 2023 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: sendhelp
That's crazy the department of energy called and asked you if you had missing time. I wonder if there was any close encounters of the 3rd or 4th kind that night.

Great job JJ, S&F

Where's Jim Oberg to debunk? Haha.... probably can't log in.


Like I said in a previous post it's more than likely ours an experiment or test of something the Germans were doing the Nazi bell , They also asked if he felt strange the next day That points at some kind of wave or distortion in time .

Why else would they be interested in pictures of light in the sky . They are working on something ..........
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posted on Dec, 10 2023 @ 04:53 PM
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..that's why I said the best was to have both video and photos.


Yes. But this is not realistic in most sightings. While me knowing what I am doing adjusting camera settings to best quality, the object would be gone. Daytime....may be. At night...good luck.

Going back to OP video...I somehow not buying it. UFO disappears beyond the frame before passing behind the tree branches. This is red flag to me.

Look, I am not going to argue, but please, if you yourself happen to see strange lights in the sky, pull the cell phone and start recording a video.




posted on Dec, 10 2023 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: sendhelp

The whole event has STILL been very strange!

Thank you for the post!



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: DaydreamerX
Look, I am not going to argue, but please, if you yourself happen to see strange lights in the sky, pull the cell phone and start recording a video.

I don't have a cell phone.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP
I don't have a cell phone.


I thought I was the only person on the planet left who didn't have a cell phone!


On topic - great pictures! I'm following the thread ...



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP



I went back today to the spot! Looks a lot different in the daytime!



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: JJproductions

You're welcome, while you seem genuine....it's a huge red flag the video is so short, I agree with daydreamerX about not having the UFOs go out of frame or disappear. Why did you stop filming?

What is WCRZ? A radio station? You're the only witness to this UFO sighting? No other coverage or witnesses? I'm surprised, looks pretty massive. If those are UFOs they're either orbs, or some type of lights emitting from a huge cloaked ship.

Edit: at this point it would be great to find another 10/1/23 UFO sighting anywhere but I'm not finding any.
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posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: sendhelp

You are funny! There were 12 other witness 7 cars pulled over too behind me.

You turn a corner and see what I saw! Lucky there is even a video or photos!

It really does not matter what you think, I know what I saw.


ETA: 3 years ago I saw something even more intense. I will never share it! Why? Right? Lol
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posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: JJproductions

Did you get their contacts? Did they record anything? Looking for more information is all. You should be too. Even trying to debunk it as well.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: sendhelp

I never got it onsite, after the news station posted one person found a way to contact me! All of this does not matter because what changed. Nothing. Life goes on. UFO or no UFO, I know what I saw. If I turned left, I would have been sinking in the lake and would have missed this.

So the story will go on and on!

Thank you!



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: JJproductions

Yo dude you're getting hella defensive, chill. Didn't you come here asking us for help? Why don't you tell us what it is, since you know what you saw?



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: sendhelp

I had to star you for all your great UFO insights. Thank you kindly! 🔥😂🔥



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: ArMaP
Armap always the sceptic around us ( no hard feelings btw)
As of Phage , and Oberg I really miss those guys around for a good harsh but always keep your feet on the ground kind of discussions

I sometimes wonder do you think that UFO's or let's be formal UAP and NHI's are real or just real for the ones that make them exist?



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: 0bserver1

I think UFOs (or UAPs or whatever they decide to call them) are as real as any other thing around us.

Now, what are they?
It depends, I'm sure most are just common things people cannot identify.
Some may be experimental craft or other secret projects.

Is it possible some are extraterrestrial or extradimensional craft? Sure, why not?

Is it possible that some are unknown living creatures, yet to be classified? Again, why not?

The fact is that if we do not have any real evidence that points to a specific origin we should allow all possibilities.

As you can see from the previous paragraph, I don't think we have any real (public) evidence pointing to any source.



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP
It is weird what's happening the last decade, it also seems to be more frequent.

I'm also want to see real tangible evidence, something so convincing that we can't deny it even in our wildest dreams

Somehow it looks that real evidence we all see or filming and take pictures of with our phones from a distance is getting closer

It's letting us get use to it somehow

And if it's real , something I still wrrap my mind around because I've experienced alot of strange things I'm not sure if I'm happy about it , but I'm curious as hell what it could be lol







posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: DaydreamerX
Look, I am not going to argue, but please, if you yourself happen to see strange lights in the sky, pull the cell phone and start recording a video.

I don't have a cell phone.


Nothing wrong with that. Then my advice goes to the rest of UFO buffs and sky watchers. Cell phone video of the event is the best bet imo. Just keep the hand steady or find a surface to put the phone against for stability.


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edit on 12-12-2023 by DaydreamerX because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2023 @ 05:23 PM
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Hi JJ,

As I have mentioned thank you for bringing this video on.

Question, if I may, did you hold the phone in your hands while making shots or you leaned it on solid surface?

cheers)



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