The World Is Getting Tired of Ukraine vs. Russia

a reply to: Annee

I like biographies too. I'm currently reading A N Wilson's The Victorians: A Biography.

I don't doubt that he is shrewd. I admired him at one time BUT the nepo baby thing and as you say, this major miscalculation, made me think a little more deeply. It seems largely punitive from my perspective but now they're kind of stuck in the situation with no clear idea of why they're where they are.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis
a reply to: Annee

I like biographies too. I'm currently reading A N Wilson's The Victorians: A Biography.

I don't doubt that he is shrewd. I admired him at one time BUT the nepo baby thing and as you say, this major miscalculation, made me think a little more deeply. It seems largely punitive from my perspective but now they're kind of stuck in the situation with no clear idea of why they're where they are.

It certainly does not look good on the world-wide public stage. Always good to have the public on your side.

Big bad Russia invades tiny little Ukraine (comparison wise).

Average person does not care what the deep-state dynamics are.

As far as the Mid East goes -- when are they not in turmoil? It seems to be specific to those with personal involvement.

a reply to: Annee

I think just looking at what is happening to civil rights in Russia is disturbing enough. I think there was a brief moment when Russia could have chosen a different direction, taken centre stage in imagining the future and they instead decided to put enemies at it's gate. It's like it's stuck in it's own little paradigm of pseudo masculinity, can't articulate so it just beats it's chest and destroys what it can't control.

Middle-East? A narrow education is a terrible thing? Both sides.*

*Sorry that should be, all sides.

a reply to: FlyersFan

It's been two years. There is a Russia/Ukraine stalemate. Israel dominates the news now

Hey I wonder if these wars are connected.. Didnt the Khazarian Jews come from Ukraine.. With many still there...?

a reply to: purplemer

Here we go.....blame the Joos....

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: purplemer

Here we go.....blame the Joos....

Where some see chaos. Others see order..

a reply to: purplemer

Where some see chaos. Others see order..

And others see bigotry.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

As opposed to the oppressive Ukrainian/US led regime, instigated a civil war that was 10 years ongoing
You were good with that

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: FlyersFan

It's been two years. There is a Russia/Ukraine stalemate. Israel dominates the news now

Hey I wonder if these wars are connected.. Didnt the Khazarian Jews come from Ukraine.. With many still there...?

If there was any connection, it would have been Russia instigating Hamas to attack Israel to open another front for the West to deal with
Though thinking Israel and Palestine is an economic war

I think Russia had a hand in overthrowing a few Central African regimes to stick it up the French

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis
a reply to: Annee

I think just looking at what is happening to civil rights in Russia is disturbing enough. I

For example?
Is this going to be a little bit of woke moralising where everyone has to adopt transgenderism in pre tens or embrace LGBTI because for whatever reason, it’s right?
Think the US would be better served holding on to its own civil rights as opposed to watch them erode away

Bottom line, just being completely detached and logical, the war in Ukraine is good for us in the West, if you consider that Russia has very aggressive plans for expansion.

Putin has now upped defense and military production to around 50% of his country's GDP. 50%! That's crazy. To achieve that he cut numerous social programs and help for the people. This is not sustainable and starving masses don't stay quiet for long. We'll see when it begins.

On the other hand, we are spending about 5% of our GDP on Ukraine. 5% of our GDP is a lot, considering it's a 1000% higher than Russia's. 5% of our GDP is equal to 50% of Russia's GDP.

Only they will starve at 50%, and for us 5% is just a dent. And at the same time, we are increasing domestic production and creating jobs by replacing all the weapons we give to Ukraine.

The longer Ukraine can fight this war, and hopefully win it, the better position the West is in with each passing day.

a reply to: Creaky

If there was any connection,

There is a connection you just dont see it atm. Probably becase you get your information for media controlled by the same peeps.
The Khazarian empire was in Ukraine. This is the same cult that now runs the central banking system. Which is under attack from the BRIC countries who are now making a gold back currency. This is the same system that is being removed in Israel. It was not by accident that the country was close to state of war before this all started. All connected.
You think it coincidence that the Rothchilds have been selling family land / estates and heirloooms. You are watching a world wide resistance to a system that has been in place for a long time,
Should have read your Q posts.. Rothchilds will be the final side of the triangle to fall. ...and here we are.

a reply to: Mahogani

Bottom line, just being completely detached and logical, the war in Ukraine is good for us in the West, if you consider that Russia has very aggressive plans for expansion.

Deepstate money laundering.. The money that goes is never audited. You think the west cares about Russians the back end of no where.. The war has been in the making a long time. It was planned that Ukraine would be used as a spring board to push Russia into a war.. The war has been called early.. If Ukraine falls the NWO will fall...

Someone was saying it’s a way to cycle out our old ammo. Makes sense, Vietnam era 155mm etc ammo. It doesn’t make ammo manufacturers any profit when there are huge inventory’s sitting on the shelf. Add the fact that training rarely use actual combat loads. Training rounds are made of concrete or inert fillings. Machine gun training use regular ball rounds.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Creaky

If there was any connection,

There is a connection you just dont see it atm. Probably becase you get your information for media controlled by the same peeps.

I think there is, just not whatever you are talking about
Documented New oil discovery of Palestine as well as a planed new canal through Palestine
I am just assuming your non media controlled peeps are all drama queens trying to sell gullible people conspiracy

Who’s to know?
I didn’t comment because I don’t know

The world is getting tired of the wars around the globe and we should stop funding them.

Russia has strategically won the war. The objective was never to conquer the entire geographical area of Ukraine. The reason it lasted longer is because we were funding Ukraine.

a reply to: Jane1B

Odd. Thought that kilometers long armoured column headed for Kyiv was meant to be decisive?

Thank goodness the West stood up to Putin.

He's running again for Prez.

No opposition left.

So that's all good, eh?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Jane1B

Odd. Thought that kilometers long armoured column headed for Kyiv was meant to be decisive?

Thank goodness the West stood up to Putin.

He's running again for Prez.

No opposition left.

So that's all good, eh?

Probably a bit optimistic for Kyiv but the war is terrible and too many lives have been lost. Ukraine couldn't keep their territories. We should invest in peace and stop funding the wars.

originally posted by: Jane1B
Russia has strategically won the war. The objective was never to conquer the entire geographical area of Ukraine. The reason it lasted longer is because we were funding Ukraine.

No victory as yet for either 'team' according to the Beeb today and nothing is for sure. Pootin has put Russian industry on a war footing. They said this will make no difference in 2024. Too early for gearing up and mass production. The fruits of putting Russian industry on a WW2 style war footing will only make a difference by 2025. Guess it's wait and see