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Putin in his youth: alone against a crowd of drunken Germans

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posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 04:45 AM
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Hello ATS!

It occurred to me to tell you what Putin was like in his youth, what he did and what are the roots of Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s existential hatred of him. After all, they not only met in their youth, but Scholz was Putin’s agent. So.

The fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989 marked the collapse of the idea of ​​the spread of communism to the West. The Warsaw bloc was already falling apart - the GDR was also going to disappear very soon.

Meanwhile, numerous rallies took place throughout the cities of East Germany. Half-drunk crowds destroyed the headquarters of the Stasi (GDR Ministry of State Security) and government offices. Soviet missions also suffered.

A wave of protests reached Dresden in December. Demonstrators destroyed the headquarters of the local Stasi branch. At the same time, secret documents with the names of undercover agents were stolen. Very close by, literally across the wall from the Stasi, was the USSR KGB station.

Her boss, seeing what was happening with the department of German “colleagues”, left the building under a plausible pretext. Lieutenant Colonel Platov remained in charge. Fearing the inevitable - an assault by a drunken crowd - he contacted the nearest military unit and asked for help. But they refused - only with Moscow’s permission. Moscow did not answer the lieutenant colonel’s calls. Platov found himself in a difficult situation from which he had to find a way out.

Later, years later, when the incident became well known and the KGB documents of those times were declassified, the real name of the Soviet counterintelligence agent Platov became known. Under such an operational pseudonym, 37-year-old Lieutenant Colonel Vladimir Putin was hiding. He was sent to the GDR back in 1985 and all these years he worked in Dresden undercover as an employee of the House of Soviet-German Friendship.



As the president himself later said, in Germany he had to do “quite routine” things: recruit informants, collect data, analyze it and prepare reports.

However, Putin is somewhat vague here. The department in which he served dealt with those who collaborated with the ideological enemies of the USSR: Great Britain, France, and the USA. Whether they are citizens from the GDR or from the Federal Republic of Germany. Among these was one of the leaders of the SPD youth organization named Scholz. Yes, we are talking specifically about the current Chancellor of Germany. At that time, he was extremely actively collaborating with the West, and therefore was “under special supervision” by the Stasi and the KGB, that is, in touch with Putin.



In a desire to take revenge, the current Chancellor of Germany may have uttered that very phrase after a meeting with the President of Russia:

"Genocide in Donbass? This is simply ridiculous!"

I am sure that not a single Russian will ever forget these words of the current German “Fuhrer”.

But let's go back to December 1989. According to the memoirs of the future president, then, having never received an answer from Moscow, he realized that, as a great power, the USSR no longer existed and all responsibility for the station and its employees lay exclusively with him. Putting on an officer's uniform, Putin went out to the protesters. There were at least half a thousand of them, most of them drunk and angry, ready to storm at the first click.

Coming out to them, the lieutenant colonel said that the Berlin Wall collapsed only because the Soviet Union allowed it. Therefore, the Germans should not be angry, but should thank the USSR. And he added that he, as an officer, would defend Soviet property to the last - officers with weapons were already standing in the windows. And he himself has a pistol with 12 rounds of ammunition on his belt, one of which he will keep for himself.

Turning his back to the demonstrators, Putin headed back to the residence, expecting a bottle or shot from the crowd every second. The crowd didn't dare. And after a couple of hours, two armored personnel carriers with soldiers arrived at the Dresden headquarters of the KGB - for reinforcement. The situation has calmed down.

Here's the story.

Thank you.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 07:10 AM
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I recently read an article but can remember where, that Putin had a team adjusting his history to make him look like a more important person. Part of the article showed that Putin was just a KGB errand boy and not what he claims.
If I come across the article again I will post it here.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll


Ahem..
why you write olaf Scholz was extremely actively collaborating with the West ?

Because i see it very differently , Scholz was against Reagans plans ,and even seem to saying something about Germany leaving NATO . And because of Scholz statements, he became "popular" in DDR in some circles ..

Explosive Charges: Was German Chancellor Olaf Scholz a Stasi/KGB Asset?



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 07:49 AM
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Coming out to them, the lieutenant colonel said that the Berlin Wall collapsed only because the Soviet Union allowed it. Therefore, the Germans should not be angry, but should thank the USSR. And he added that he, as an officer, would defend Soviet property to the last - officers with weapons were already standing in the windows. And he himself has a pistol with 12 rounds of ammunition on his belt, one of which he will keep for himself.

Turning his back to the demonstrators, Putin headed back to the residence, expecting a bottle or shot from the crowd every second. The crowd didn't dare. And after a couple of hours, two armored personnel carriers with soldiers arrived at the Dresden headquarters of the KGB - for reinforcement. The situation has calmed down.


All very impressive but Kim Jong Il discovered a unicorn lair.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll
A very interesting account that we must balance with other data. It seems to make some sort of clever hero out of Putin. At least, that is my take from the story which then leads me to wonder if it is an indication of the Troll's politics and sentiments.


edit on 2-12-2023 by CosmicFocus because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: CosmicFocus
a reply to: RussianTroll
A very interesting account that we must balance with other data. It seems to make some sort of clever hero out of Putin. At least, that is my take from the story which then leads me to wonder if it is an indication of the Troll's politics and sentiments.



The “troll mood,” as you put it, would be a very weak attempt to portray Western leaders as some kind of heroes. This looks especially humorous in relation to Biden))))



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
Hello ATS!

Coming out to them, the lieutenant colonel said that the Berlin Wall collapsed only because the Soviet Union allowed it. Therefore, the Germans should not be angry, but should thank the USSR.

Thank you.


Didn’t the Soviets put the wall there to control and hold east Germany hostage in the first place, all Eastern Europe?
I am not anti Russian but, the Soviet Union, that’s was a murdering cult of psychopaths
Solzhenitsyn indicated as such



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: Creaky

Now the reality is that it is Western countries that are holding Eastern Europe as their hostages and satellites. The difference is that they are now required to sacrifice themselves with complete destruction in the future. During the USSR they flourished and did not die))))

By the way, the “wall” is a purely Western invention. It is Western countries that are currently building walls, real and sanctioned.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:47 AM
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Wasn't he a gangster and a street thug in his youth?



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Didn't Stalin murder millions of them?



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:53 AM
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Oh man.

I was hoping for a hilarious drinking story.

Putin meets drunk Germans as a youth.

Tell me that's not a set up for an epic joke.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

We were all like that. True, I had high-ranking and very democratic parents. You won’t understand, but as a boy I even attended an Led Zeppelin concert in Yugoslavia. It was such a concert)))) like Back in the U.S.S.R. the great The Beatles



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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I would understand. I've seen Led Zep, too.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

Didn't Stalin murder millions of them?


No more than US presidents and British prime ministers.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
Oh man.

I was hoping for a hilarious drinking story.

Putin meets drunk Germans as a youth.

Tell me that's not a set up for an epic joke.


You have simply never encountered a drunken crowd, also pumped up with drugs and extremist appeals. And I don’t need it, I don’t want it.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

But:

"During the USSR they flourished and did not die))))"



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

But:

"During the USSR they flourished and did not die))))"


Certainly. The countries of Eastern Europe were then a “showcase of socialism”, at the expense of the peoples of the USSR.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Some "showcase"!



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

A showcase of socialism for the rest of the world. How well they live, but at the expense of whom they live so well, it was hidden.



posted on Dec, 2 2023 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Did they live well in East Germany? Czechoslovakia? Etc.




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