Biden apologized to Muslim-American leaders for questioning death toll from Hamas

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: WeMustCare

Did not the masterminded of the Israeli attack in Oct was also a released prisoner from another time and another deal?.

Maybe Obama/biden administration will bring them here to the US and give them a place in a sanctuary city.

I can only imagine what is hiding in these cities, especially michigan, like snakes waiting to strike. 

Likely no different than the African swap/deal that took place that gave rise to the Black Panther party having; African Nationalists as part of that deal/swap.

It seems those sorts of trades are almost always a person of a lot of influence in their home country... Where removing them prevents the rise of a populist dictatorship yet breeds nationalism among expatriates from wherever it is in the host country.

So it isn't like your fears aren't based on such a trade/deal between nations hasn't ever happened yet...

What it really sounds like is: American muslims are disaffected and have no voice; So the political theory is bringing in such individuals would bring them some sort of solidarity and give them one.

I'd personally be insulted but thats what sociopoliticalism does... Dehumanize the individual saying that; That's what it takes to be an individual and since all people of that culture will reach the same level of dehumanization? They will bond as a permanent culture as one proud people.

Then make some Kumbaya or wenga wep sound around a campfire while everyone else holds hands or some nonsense.

a reply to: kwaka

To think the numbers could be lower shows how detached you are from the situation.

and to ad to that, from the AP a left leaning news source, who has been noted to be sympathetic towards hamas and only reports that the big bad israeli zoinists kill as many pale's as possible.

The ministry never distinguishes between civilians and combatants.That becomes clearer after the dust settles, when the U.N. and rights groups investigate and militant groups offer a tally of members killed.The Israeli military also conducts post-war investigations. The Health Ministry doesn’t report how Palestinians were killed, whether from Israeli airstrikes and artillery barrages or other means, like errant Palestinian rocket fire.. It describes all casualties as victims of “Israeli aggression
What is Gaza’s Ministry of Health and how does it calculate the war’s death toll?

it should be noted that the AP has been accused before as having a relationship with hamas as far back as 2014 and the atlantic ( another very left leaner) did a report on it. i think i found the atlantic report but is behind a paywall, here are the links. luckily they didn't hide the link to the authors other publication of it.

here is the atlantic paywall link, What the Media Gets Wrong About Israel The news tells us less about Israel than about the people writing the news, a former AP reporter says.

grab hold of your down unders this from the bureaus editors at the time.

There has been much discussion recently of Hamas attempts to intimidate reporters. Any veteran of the press corps here knows the intimidation is real, and I saw it in action myself as an editor on the AP news desk. During the 2008-2009 Gaza fighting I personally erased a key detail—that Hamas fighters were dressed as civilians and being counted as civilians in the death toll—because of a threat to our reporter in Gaza. (The policy was then, and remains, not to inform readers that the story is censored unless the censorship is Israeli. Earlier this month, the AP’s Jerusalem news editor reported and submitted a story on Hamas intimidation; the story was shunted into deep freeze by his superiors and has not been published).)
An Insider’s Guide to the Most Important Story on Earth A former AP correspondent explains how and why reporters get Israel so wrong, and why it matters

so it seems that the "Gaza Health Ministry" just says how many pale's have been killed, doesn't say how many civilian men woman, children, or POS terrorists just a lump sum. then turns around and lets the terrorist say how many of their have been killed, and doesn't say when pale civilians are killed by the the POS terrorists.

the press knows it and has for a very long time.

talk about non transparency.

edit on 28-11-2023 by BernnieJGato because: tried to fix formatting nothing worked

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Looking through a few videos of Gaza ground conditions, the hospitals where doing well before the chaos started, clean, organized, treat a lot of standard stuff. Would of had good administration services to keep it all running. Since many have become overcrowded, bombed, shot up and shut down it does make it tougher to get a real time analysis of the situation. Been some mass graves so far. Is going to take a while to piece it all together.

I know some just want it all buried, erased from history and start anew. It was a lot easier to keep such atrocities quite before such an interconnected world existed. Even still, these actions still leave an impact hundreds of years later. Denial might work for zog, the rest of the world is getting sick of it these days.

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: TheWhat
Please Mr Muslim terrorist accept my sincere apologies for forcing you to murder, rape, burn, fly planes into buildings and bomb little girls at rock concerts.


a reply to: FlyersFan

Congratulations on winning the award for the dumbest post of the day...

Here's your award
🤡

Gotta admit it was a close competition between you and the OP.

Just so you are aware Israel did 9/11. The American government created Wahhabism and America is the world's largest consumer and producer of rape on the internet. So pardon my response when I tell you "you are full of ****!".

This justification of collective punishment on a group people you all keep displaying is disgusting. How would you feel if the world used collective punishment against Americans for the millions of Iraqi babies who have dies in the last 10 years because American government sanctions?

How about collective punishment for what our government did in Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, etc, etc, etc.

Truth is Israel has killed more women and children in 6 weeks than Russia has in 2 years in Ukraine. You all can continue to run interference for the ongoing genocide being committed by the zionists in Israel.

The way I see it is most of you are bigoted towards anyone if middle-eastern decent. If you weren't you'd automatically defend the children being blown to bits my American bombs. Regardless of what religion or nationality they are.

I don't pardon idiots.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Looking through a few videos of Gaza ground conditions, the hospitals where doing well before the chaos started, clean, organized, treat a lot of standard stuff. Would of had good administration services to keep it all running. Since many have become overcrowded, bombed, shot up and shut down it does make it tougher to get a real time analysis of the situation. Been some mass graves so far. Is going to take a while to piece it all together.

I know some just want it all buried, erased from history and start anew. It was a lot easier to keep such atrocities quite before such an interconnected world existed. Even still, these actions still leave an impact hundreds of years later. Denial might work for zog, the rest of the world is getting sick of it these days.

There is nothing being “buried” other than people ignoring Hamas shields their “military” activities (let’s be honest Hamas are murderous cowards cowering behind civilians and labeling anything military they do is a ironic joke) illegally behind human shields.

Have all the Americans taken on Oct 7 as hostages been returned? Or they still being used as human shields and bargaining chips. For someone supposedly outraged by the evils of government, Hamas is guilty of it all. Killing its own civilians with misfired rockets and turning it into a black flag events blaming Israel, using human shields, sanctioning murder/rape/ torture, and corruption making billionaires out of its leaders.

4-year-old Israeli American hostage is released

www.cnn.com...#:~:text=Abigail%20E dan%2C%20the%204%2Dyear,the%2017%20hostages%20released%20Sunday.

Her mother was killed in front of her, the president said. She then ran to her father, Biden said, who used his body to shield his daughter and was killed.

What is being buried?

Why is Ireland PM facing wrath over post on released Hamas hostage Emily Hand?


www.hindustantimes.com... ml

Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar has sparked global outrage with his seemingly callous reference to the nine-year-old Hamas hostage as ‘an innocent child who was lost and has now been found.’

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: FlyersFan

Questioning figures is neither here nor there if he's going to apologise for something it should be for giving Israel the cover for doing what they've done , sad old git that he is.

That very true.

Biden has taken some advise finally and has said the obvious. The US Government and Israel have managed to unite the whole Muslim World with the atrocities committed by the State of Israel in Gaza.

Yes there is hate between Arabs/Muslims and Jews bit not everyone feels the same. The entire Muslim World is watching the mass killings of innocent civilians in Gaza and it's likely of it continues the war to ve extended in the wider area.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Looking through a few videos of Gaza ground conditions, the hospitals where doing well before the chaos started, clean, organized, treat a lot of standard stuff. Would of had good administration services to keep it all running. Since many have become overcrowded, bombed, shot up and shut down it does make it tougher to get a real time analysis of the situation. Been some mass graves so far. Is going to take a while to piece it all together.

I know some just want it all buried, erased from history and start anew. It was a lot easier to keep such atrocities quite before such an interconnected world existed. Even still, these actions still leave an impact hundreds of years later. Denial might work for zog, the rest of the world is getting sick of it these days.

Numbers are much much higher then what the western world is being told from supposed HAMAS..which is a lie.it is easy to see right through it all

Every aspect and situation in this war when talking casualties and shots fired...none of it adds up from what we are being told.

A little none bias critical thinking and it is easy to see...like plain text prior to hst 2008ish encryption

This is my opinion...opinion seems like a no no round here as members post and accounts are deleted and banned ever increasingly often for much less then what I have shared about the matter .

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: FlyersFan

In fact, there really is no Gaza Ministry of Health.

Gaza Health Ministry

So not enough to bomb and evacuate the hospitals, got to attack their credibility as well while under assault. To think the numbers could be lower shows how detached you are from the situation.

a reply to: Iamlegioniamone

If at first you don't succeed.......

a reply to:

Just so you are aware Israel did 9/11.

Israel persuaded Muslim terrorists to commit suicide by flying air liners into buildings. Yeah that sounds feasible sweetheart.

a reply to: Iamlegioniamone

Back again, eh?

What do you mean?a reply to: Oldcarpy2

a reply to: Iamlegioniamone

Me having an Off-Topic post removed should be the least of your worries. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Good attempt at poor grammar etc.....now where's that 'shaking head in disbelief' emoji at?

Good luck anyway with your stay here.

a reply to: Iamlegioniamone

Sounds like a threat..

Stop being silly.
Why would I need or want to threaten anyone on an anonymous, online message board?

But you know that.

Again, good luck in your time here, I look forward to seeing your well thought out and well reasoned posts on the boards.

Thankyou

Stay true to yourself as will I

a reply to: Freeborn