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originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: quintessentone
I know
There is this scene in "the last of us", where he finds his brother in the only thriving community for the whole season. when they tell him the basic principles he says all grumpy, "so basically communism".
It made me laugh, just like this thread. in a good way I may add...
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Terpene
Lol, love this thread...
When # hits the fan, communism will be our best survival strategy. Didn't think to read that on ATS
Adopting a communal way of helping each other doesn't have to include politics.
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: quintessentone
Silly commies.
Humanity had civilizations for thousands of years before Marx came up with communism.
And history has showed us that without exception, communism always ends in mass murder and starvation.
So no. Communism is not the answer. It has not, and never will be a viable or sustainable form of civilization.
The first writings about Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) were in 200 BCE
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: quintessentone
The first writings about Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) were in 200 BCE
Yes. This was just at the end of what I called the Chinese Dark Ages -- the Warring States period (475-221BC).
The European Dark Ages were much later.
Nobody. Lets say theres and EMP and grid goes down, within a week things go Mad Max.
originally posted by: DAVID64
With everything going on in the world right now, I'm surprised to not see more SHTF scenarios here.
The fact of the matter is if/when it goes down...most of us are not gonna make it. In the U.S roughly 56 million people are over the age of 65 and most of them are on one medication or another that will not be available when things go sideways. Sure, you may have stocked up on medical supplies, but they expire and there's no more coming.
In all age groups, 37 million people have diabetes and 8.4 million of those rely on insulin.
If you live in a large city, you're in trouble. Not knocking "city folk" but many depend on having everything at their fingertips. Hungry ? Run to the deli down the block.
Coffee ? Starbucks on the corner.
Clean water ? Just turn on the tap.
The same goes for most people under 30. They've grown up in a world where everything they need is at the local store or delivered right to their doorstep. Imagine someone who has food delivered because they just don't feel like getting out, suddenly has to survive on their own. They get all their information from Google and when there's no more cell phones, no more information and I can almost guarantee none of them have Googled survival tactics.
Oh, you have a plan to get out of the city and go to the country ?
Yeah, you and the majority of people in that city have the same idea. Can you shoot, trap and clean game ? Do you even have a gun ?
And how do you think those country folk are gonna react when you decide to go native ?
Even many "country folks" will not know how to function without electricity and water. Some people think because they grow tomatoes, they're "gardening" and "fresh meat" is what they pick up at Wal Mart. I have Walnut trees and so many nuts I try to give them away by the 5 gal bucket. They say "Thanks but I'll just get some at the store".
Out of 335 million, I'd guess at least 1/3 will be dead in the first 6 months and 1/2 after a year. One hard Winter will finish off even more.
How many will survive a Summer with temps well over 100 with no A/C ?
The very old and the very young will be first to go.
When you get cut on rusty barbwire or miss with that ax, you better go get some stitches and antibi.....oh wait.
Break and arm or leg ?
Found a stash of canned food and now you're vomiting with diarrhea ?
Common cold turned into pneumonia ?
This will not be some romantic version of Mad Max, with you bravely fighting the hordes of people coming after your food.
You will be one of the horde.
Have a nice weekend.