a reply to: NobodySpecial268Transforming those negative emotions into wisdom; Is the key to letting go... If you make that your
desire? The anguish will go away. Having got into the anguish using desire; Use desire to get rid of it.
The so called soul is more like a comfortable pair of shoes; Like growing accustomed to those negative feelings/emotions; One accepts then normalizes
them and also associates them with other people and objects of their experience... Then become unaware that they are spreading those negative emotions
around... But that is not their true self; Just the stink of those comfortable shoes.
Ensnared in an incalculable amount of ways is just such a person... Where the only cure is to let go.
a reply to: NobodySpecial268
Unstepping the cause to its known effect... Is the only approach I know of to not keep compounding the same effect. Not knowing that is the opposite
of introspection/meditation aka ignorance...
However; Knowing and not doing any of that; Is just karma of the individual... Yet the individual is said to be non existent since that person is not
the only individual producing such karma... Hence 'soul groups.
What my goal with all of that was; was unclear for a very long time... Since I had an unexpected experience and then started looking into it. Even
after looking into it; It was still unclear. Then I set a resolve to not deviate or be now here now there all over the place with views. Since there
are many paths many people and even more opinions of essentially the same experience.
That resolve is what opened the door.
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I wasn't refering to belief, rather once one can 'see' trauma in the person, it is like a stain on a rug. Once one sees the stain the rug becomes
visible.
Th "rug" being the human memory itself. Which grows as a snowflake does. The growing tips turn black instead of being blue. That is the observable
pathology and not a spiritual metaphor.
What I noticed in the spiritual sense is people tend to run from the stain; Due to that carpet appearing... Instead of just getting down to cleaning
it or just accepting that; That's what happens due to having a carpet. Seeing both approaches are equal; Is tantamount to liberation.
Cleaning the "carpet" AKA memory (soul) usually is nothing really. When I see trauma induced catatonia in deceased kids though, one starts to study
it. Otherwise they actually fade away with no comming back. The old catholic BS about immortal soul is demonstrateably not so.
Such a person typically becomes a house or resident spirit or kami where the trauma occurred that resulted in their death... Being seen as blameless
and depending on their life in totals practice either move on to a new birth which is typically 39 human days maximum or if too malevolent due to all
the experiences that led up to that moment; Sort of become a vortex of elemental energies that need to be dispersed... As that will spread from house
to house door to door sort of like the BEK(black eyed kids) phenomena several years back.
Since nearly everyone is in such a state in some sense? Self realization becomes even more important so one is no longer stuck in one's own vortex or
the vortex of another. Likely that's the trauma you see in or the blues becoming black.
The Beelzebub is a common creation where beating a child was seen as proper punishment; Since that adult energy always retreats to a corner... it's
trying to say standing in one would have sufficed over the beating and at the same time beating is the work of a dunce and that's all it creates.
The largest problem with Western spirituality is that it has damned the animist side of itself... In doing so; it says all human nature is evil. In
essence they have made a yin and yang; Where all animals are on one side and humans on the other and god wholly outside of that other than creating
them both to suffer what it is to be alive; Where one ponders it and the other doesn't.
The largest problem with Western spirituality is that it has damned the animist side of itself... In doing so; it says all human nature is evil. In
essence they have made a yin and yang; Where all animals are on one side and humans on the other and god wholly outside of that other than creating
them both to suffer what it is to be alive; Where one ponders it and the other doesn't.
Yes, Western spirituality damning the animist side of life is an outstanding problem. Not so much the harm it did to itself, they are entitled to
discipline their own. The far greater harm was done to the those outside the church. In particular, the practice of forced conversion under torture,
and its practical application in the inquisition respect. There is a dark psychology there akin to the MKULTRA.
The intention is to progressively create an aversion to living on what I spose is called the spiritual level. Perhaps one might say the soul level. It
is those deceased children that have been my patients.
On the bright side, they can be woken up from catatonia and some healing of their traumas. I sing to them the same song all day for days over and
over. Once they notice you, the work becomes easier. If anyone is interested in hearing the song is called The Light Before We Land by the
Delgados. Sometimes these kids are targeted life after life.
But this thread is about soul/oversoul. So I'll share a quick rundown for interested folk on the human memory that is created over consecutive
lives.
Since nearly everyone is in such a state in some sense? Self realization becomes even more important so one is no longer stuck in one's own vortex or
the vortex of another. Likely that's the trauma you see in or the blues becoming black.
I'm not sure. Though what one is dealing with is memory, one has to do some memory work to repair the damage. One can't just delete memories, that
causes big problems and much better to go the long road. To see the snowflake bright blue again is when one sees a change in the deceased kids.
The memory is the only thing I have encountered that matches the general description of "soul" - something that remains constant life after life. It
looks like and has a lot in common with the snowflake and how it grows. The least of which is the fact that every snowflake is unique, and therefore
every person is unique too.
The arms are our talents developed over lives.
It is the growing tips that we see the trauma stored. The tips become blackened and have a black mist about them. With the targeted trauma, talents
and enjoyments become antipathies. In a civilised society we would take great care in not creating trauma and antipathies to being alive. Especially
in women and children.
One might say there is also a "snowfield" one might call an "oversoul".
I have no idea where this fits in within the greater scheme of things, that is simply what I have discovered in treating trauma in the deceased.
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I may as well waffle on a tad for understanding of the snowflake memory.
The mention of a "snowfield'" can be understood in practical terms when we think about interacting with another person. There is always two sides to a
story. Normally we only experience one side - ours. That is the connection between the individual snowflake memories.
We can also understand that everyone is connected in this way. Though we do not realise it. That is because we have a sense of self. We also have a
boundary of self that separates us from each other.
This was discovered when I started to relive embarrassing teenage romance moments in profusion, and wondered why. That was caused by the deceased
girls rummaging through my memories. What they did was engage in my memory of an event, and played the other party. I originally taught the oldest
deceased girl how to access my memories, and on the quiet, she sneakily taught the others.
This was important because the deceased don't connect with other people in the same way as in life. New memories are not generally formed, which is
why the deceased tend to live in the past and repeat the past. Now kids that have been dead for hundreds of years are out of touch, so I saw this as a
valuable learning experience for them and, in a defacto way, to begin to form new memories on the affected stems of the snowflake. Rehabilitation, one
might say.
There is a great deal to be learned with memory work.
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1. Whistle with your tongue pressed against your teeth
2. Bend your thumbs backwards.
3. Lick your nose
5. Put your foot around your neck
6. Kiss your elbows
7. Once you've done all the above you'll inadvertently have to sneeze but keep your eyes open at all cost.
If you didn't have to sneeze its because you didn't do number 4...