Israeli newspaper reporting army helicopter may have fired on partygoers at dance festival

Haaretz quotes an unnamed police source regarding a police report into the attack leaked to the paper , the report claims Hamas didn't know about the festival only discovering it as they headed into occupied territory as it had been extended to Saturday by the organisers , an alert was sounded 30 minutes before the gun fire started and most of the festival goers had already fled or were in the process of fleeing , the report says an army attack helicopter may have fired on those still at the event making this another report of the IDF firing on its own civilians.

The story is behind a paywall.
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A summary of the report from Press TV.

A helicopter belonging to Israel’s military killed a number of settlers attending the Supernova music festival near the Gaza border on October 7, after the Palestinian Hamas resistance movement launched Operation Al-Aqsa Storm into the occupied territories, according to a report.

The Israeli security establishment’s assessment is that Hamas intended to infiltrate Re’im and other villages in the occupied territories and that it found out about the festival through drones or parachutes, and directed fighters to the location using their comms system upon a spontaneous decision to target the party, Haaretz reported on Saturday.

An Israeli army combat helicopter that arrived at the scene and fired at Palestinian fighters apparently also hit some party-goers, according to the assessment, which is based on interrogations from Hamas members and the Israeli police’s investigation of the incident, among other things.

One of the findings reinforcing the assessment is that the first resistance fighters arrived at the festival’s location from Route 232, and not from the direction of the Gaza border, Israeli police and other senior security figures said.

Another point that shows Hamas’ lack of knowledge about the event is that it was originally planned for Thursday and Friday, with an extra day on Saturday added only on Tuesday of that week.

“The event was attended, according to our estimate, by some 4,400 people, the large majority of whom managed to flee following the decision to disperse the event made four minutes after the rocket attack,” a senior police source said.
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a reply to: gortex

Press TV = promotes Iranian goverment propaganda , yes the very same goverment that support hamas .

a reply to: Kenzo

Press TV = promotes Iranian goverment propaganda , yes the very same goverment that support hamas .

The story is from Haaretz which is behind a paywall , the PressTV link which isn't paywalled is reporting on the Haaretz story.

There have been a few sources reporting on this for a few days now. Some chopper footage shooting up people and cars running in the chaos is going around. With some of the damage done to the cars at the party, looks like some serious firepower was involved.

As for how many of the 1400 got shot up by Hamas or Israel? Numbers still a bit hazy, both got a significant count. The Hannibal Directive has been used by Israel sources to justify such actions. Basically it means it is better to shot a hostage than let them be taken by the enemy. With the indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, the hostages there don't matter. Some reports of many of them already dead.

a reply to: gortex

The whole helicopter story is fake , yet you seem to be in hurry to write story about it here .





Fact Check: Israeli Defense Force Footage Does NOT Show Aerial Gunners Firing On Fleeing Supernova Festival Goers

No, this video doesn’t show Israeli military killing people at Oct. 7 concert in Israel


Are you in jihad mode now ?

A dance festival, in a muslim country. Surely something hamas would totally respect.
They totally wouldn't kill to birds with one helicopter, shoot up the infidels and blame it on israel.
Hamas would totally not do that, they have honour, and only hide in hospitals or schools, so they can blame israel for killing the babies they use as shields.

You can trust them, they would never name an unphotographed helicopter as the enemy's. Men of honour they are.

/sarcasm

a reply to: Kenzo

Are you claiming that Haaretz is in "jihad mode" for reporting the story?

a reply to: Kenzo

Oh poop Kenzo. Now my post is irrelevant. 🥺

a reply to: Threadbarer

I have not seen the Haaretz story , it`s behind paywall OP says , so i have not seen the story with my own eyes, so i wont comment more to it....but elsewhere it has been debunked . The original video was not leaked either, it was published directly by IDF .

a reply to: Kenzo

Are the Israeli police in "jihad mode" for reporting that some of the festival goers were killed by Israel?

I'm going to take the word of the people who actually investigated the scene over the word of some amateur video analysts.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Can you maybe identify who is the unnamed police source ? And you can also geolocate the place of the video where the claimed incident happened.

Too bad there isn’t some Gaza news paper that could freely and accurately report the news on the number of Hamas rockets that misfire in the hundreds landing in Gaza killing its citizens. And call out Hamas when Hamas lies.

a reply to: Lazy88

I can't but Haaretz is the newspaper of record in Israel.

Why would they make up a story that's anti-Israel or take the word of a random person so they can publish a story that's anti-Israel?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Lazy88

I can't but Haaretz is the newspaper of record in Israel.

Why would they make up a story that's anti-Israel or take the word of a random person so they can publish a story that's anti-Israel?

Why would people on YouTube lie the earth is flat.

a reply to: Threadbarer

The point being Israel has free press to create a product that will sale, Hamas doesn't have free press.

a reply to: Threadbarer

By the way, you can still find articles the al-Ahli Arab hospital incident in the parking lot of being a misfired Gaza rocket claiming the Hamas lie it was an Israeli air strike.

a reply to: gortex

he PressTV link which isn't paywalled is reporting on the Haaretz story.

there isn't much difference,

aaretz describes itself as having "a broadly liberal outlook both on domestic issues and on international affairs",[31] and has been summarized as being "liberal on security, civil rights and economy, supportive of the Supreme Court, very critical of Netanyahu's government".[32v Haaretz

the fish wrapping rag is pretty ripe with a left bias.

a reply to: Lazy88

Like so many others, if he were there and saw it firsthand, Israel would still be the guilty party no matter what he saw with his own eyes.

a reply to: Kenzo

Are you in jihad mode now ?

I don't know what is worst. Israel not even sending a chopper in a major breach for 7 hours on one of the worlds most heavily defended boarders or joining in on the peace party Israel style.

a reply to: gortex

Electronic Intifada and Al Jazeera run the story as well. The Hannibal Directive comes to mind.

According to the directive, once it had been declared by a field officer, Israeli forces were to open fire on enemy forces carrying away an IDF prisoner. Vehicles suspected of removing such a prisoner from the battlefield could thus be attacked, even at the risk of harming, or even killing, the abductee himself. According to some interpretations, this includes even firing missiles from attack helicopters or firing tank shells at suspected escaping vehicles.