Shocking New Polling Out of Gaza and the West Bank Blows Up the Mainstream Narrative

a reply to: PorkChop96

Deflection and distraction that is the agenda, in social media, take over the truth and implant a new true, defend it to the end.

I guess we need to forget the children that hamas palestinian terrorist beheaded and the hostages still be held, "that was a lie, Israel did it, to their own, only the palestinain children and poor women needs sympathies," that is the true, that is what it needs to be pushed in every social media, that is what propagandist do.

Erase the truth, replace it with a new alternative truth.

How many infuriating MSM posts does it take for us to start ignoring the bull# they spew though? We’re all biting the hook. a reply to: Klassified

a reply to: FaeDedAgain

That part is being willfully ignored, just like Israelis protesting for the release of hostages.

It's never enough, you're never enough. No matter how often you cite the UN charter. It's essentially paid posting for the powerful at this point, so there's hope the drones at least get a good piece of the cut to buy our art.

PEACE!

'March for Israel': Huge peaceful protest calls for release of hostages, end of antisemitism, Israeli victory

Tens of thousands of protesters descended on Washington D.C. to peacefully stand in solidarity with Israel, call for Hamas to release the hostages and demand an end to rising antisemitism.

The Jewish Federations of North America, a non-profit organization and the organizer for the rally, said that this was the largest pro-Israel gathering in U.S. history.

The group said that they estimated that there were 290,000 people and that another 250,000 watched online.

www.msn.com...

Distraction and deflection, it never happened, is a lie, that is not true, I will tell you the truth, ect, ect. the tools of the propagandist.

American Jews are mobilizing to free Israeli hostages — will it make a difference?

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originally posted by: Mawdano

Former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”

But then we have this constant state of war between Hamas and Israel.

Hamas was established in 1987, and has its origins in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s and gained influence through a network of mosques and various charitable and social organizations. In the 1980s the Brotherhood emerged as a powerful political factor, challenging the influence of the PLO,[5] and in 1987 adopted a more nationalist and activist line under the name of Hamas.[5] During the 1990s and early 2000s, the organization conducted numerous suicide bombings and other attacks against Israel.

In the Palestinian legislative election of January 2006, Hamas gained a large majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament, defeating the ruling Fatah party. After the elections, conflicts arose between Hamas and Fatah, which they were unable to resolve.[8][9][10] In June 2007, Hamas defeated Fatah in a series of violent clashes, and since that time Hamas has governed the Gaza portion of the Palestinian Territories, while at the same time they were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[11][12] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade on Gaza and largely sealed their borders with the territory.[13][14]

After acquiring control of Gaza, Hamas-affiliated and other militias launched rocket attacks upon Israel, which Hamas ceased in June 2008 following an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire.[15] The ceasefire broke down late in 2008, with each side accusing the other of responsibility.[16] In late December 2008, Israel attacked Gaza,[17] withdrawing its forces in mid-January 2009.

This repeating narrative that Israel created them so are responsible today for anything they do is stupid. You don't create those who are already warlords. They started in the 50s and came from Egypt. If Israel supports a group here and there it is nothing more than that, every country does the same, but to suggest Hamas today is the same as 40 to 70 years ago is BS and just another copout to blame Israel for everything.

a reply to: Insurrectile

What you expect, UN now have more terrorist sponsored countries that never before, they are no longer a trusted entity.

a reply to: Xtrozero

You can tell when is nothing but propaganda to pursue a narrative, that is what is going on in our threads lately, when it comes to hamas, Israel and palestine.

You can post the truth with links to historical facts, links to media with pictures, links to pollical figures with videos and still is ignored, is deflected, distractions are brough up just to erase the truth.

That is what is going on.

Example, the truth, hamas palestine terrorist bombed, attack, beheaded and killed civilians including children in Israel Americans were also killed and hostages were taken including Americans, nobody knows if they are alive or dead

Deflection, children and women are dying in gaza, Israel is killing babies and bombed a hospital (the hospital bombing was debunked by American intelligence), Israel is evil, Gaza people are pieceful, ext ext. Hamas is good, they just liberating gaza.

a reply to: Xtrozero

They always leave out the inconvenient parts.

a reply to: Klassified

As with every poll I have questions about this one. Who conducted it and how...what were the questions...how many people were surveyed? I tried to visit the source linked in the tweet in your Op Ed...but it seems the server is past its bandwidth limit so I can't view it. Did you look it the source or just read an Op Ed on a clearly right bias site which would typically be bias towards the subject?

I only ask because its rather convenient to have a poll say exactly what you would want it to say if your goal was to excuse killing civilians as we are witnessing Israel doing with its current Gaza campaign. I mean really...who are you polling when those perported to be polled have no power or running water much less and internet connection or a working phone line.

Things that make me go hmm...

Another link to the poll from another source,

Palestinian Poll Finds Strong Support for Hamas, Oct. 7 Attacks, ‘River to the Sea’ State

www.msn.com...


Poll finds dramatic rise in Palestinian support for Hamas

apnews.com...

'I won't condemn Hamas': Some Palestinians find it hard to denounce attacks on Israel

www.usatoday.com...

Yep, the support of soo called "peaceful palestinians" has always been with hamas, that is never been any doubt, even here in the US the "migrant palestnians" are happy that hamas attacked Israel and they show their support for terrorist hamas and dead to Israel.

This one can not be argue, is in front of everybody's darn faces in front of the TV.

End of story.

edit on 17-11-2023 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: marg6043

We already knew that after 2 minutes of silence for the dead UN staffers.

And, according to those numbers alone, one could easily argue Israel is one of those "terrorist sponsored countries".

originally posted by: FaeDedAgain
HAMAS BASE and the like could be anywhere they say they are without proof

if they know about these bases...why not go in and take them over instead of bomb with collateral damage?

there are not that many Hamas..

and no..they don't have tunnels under ever school hospital etc etc..some maybe

a reply to: Mawdano

There’s a lot more going on that the bombing. Air power is always used prior to a ground war if it’s available.

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Double post

I can never forgive Israel for killing US military personnel and then lying and trying to cover it up.

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But Hamas deserves what it gets for their barbarism in Israel.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor
Of course a current poll of Palestinian civilians is going to reflect against Israel and for HAMAS. Israel is killing a lot of Palestinian civilians, today even, if the last month and a half is any indication of what shenanigans the IDF is up to.

You left out the first part where Hamas attacked Israel
and killed babies, raped women, kidnapped elderly,
took hostages, brutally murdered people in their
own homes, hunted down people like dogs,
tortured and killed little children in front of parents,
dragged brutalized dead through the streets.

a reply to: burntheships

Yep the propaganda wants people to forget that, is not part of the sympathizing agenda, it never happen and is all a lie.

Darn very soon is going to be Israel attacked gaza, killed, reaped, brutalized, children, civilians and women, then took all hostages to torture the poor palestinians.

I tell you the propaganda is getting worst. The brutality of palestinian hamas was exposed and very fast was deflected.

a reply to: marg6043

Probably. Wouldn't surprise me either.

This is like 9/11, many people will never
forget what actually happened.

Try as they might, the propagandists
are not going to be able to get the one
up on this.

Especially if they keep going with the attacks
in coordination with Pro Palestine groups.

a reply to: burntheships

Look at this, you can make a thread if you want too.

IDF finds 'Hamas tunnels' at Gaza hospital with bodies of two hostages

This means that finding alive hostages is starting to decline.

Hamas are animals they do not give a darn about other humans.

www.msn.com... d3211c842a89b2148cba95ddfbc&ei=69

a reply to: marg6043

It is highly disturbing, the lack of coverage on the hostages.
Maybe there is some reason for it, to help them IDK.

However, all of the money allowed to Iran, Billions
and Billions. Biden can say what he wants he
supports Israel but his actions speak otherwise.

We all know where the money is going.
And this is while they still have hostages!

I mean....how hard is it to figure out that
the Billions could be withheld or frozen
till at least all hostages were freed and
accounted for?

Thanks Marge, as always.

a reply to: marg6043

And still not a single link in any of those Op Ed articles to the actual poll. I am starting to be pretty suspicious of this so called poll that no one can actually link to.