Israeli troops in key battle with Hamas gunmen near Gaza City hospital

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Who do you believe is keeping people from leaving, or patients from being evacuated from the hospital?

Who benefits from civilians being in the hospital?

Its a simple question.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Have you started page 2 and do not know the answer to your first question?

To answer your second question: No one benefits from any act of violence, including holding an entire hospital hostage. This is kindergarten ethics and morality.

They are loaded questions.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Ok, since you didnt understand my question.

Between the IDF and HAMAS, which side gains the most strategic advantage from keeping the patients and doctors from evacuating the hospital?

Can you answer that without overhyped emotion and obvious virtue signalling?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Ok, since you didnt understand my question.

Between the IDF and HAMAS, which side gains the most strategic advantage from keeping the patients and doctors from evacuating the hospital?

Can you answer that without overhyped emotion and obvious virtue signalling?

I understand the question just fine, as a matter of fact.

And now you pose a different question, much less loaded. The answer is Hamas. Did I pass the test? No overhyper emotion or obvious virtue signalling.

Just joining the rest of the world in calls for longer ceasefire than 4 hours. Why not make it days? Declare a longer ceasefire and you open more room for talk to release refugees and negotiate for hostages in a situation where compassion is in the greatest need.

Please cease fire long enough to negotiate release of hostages.

The world is begging. We aren't threatening. Begging to show some compassion for the civilians. Please let there be room for compassion in a country anywhere bombarding a weaker terrorist organization amid civilian populations anywhere in the universe?

This isn't virtue signaling. It's common sense.

SPAM

so it turns out Hamas is now trying to stop everyone from leaving the al shifa hospital and stopping fuel ...

The Israeli military said that it provided 300 liters of fuel for urgent medical needs at Al-Shifa Hospital, the Gaza Strip’s biggest hospital, but that Hamas prevented the hospital from receiving the fuel. The Israeli military said in a written statement on Sunday that the fuel was left about 300 meters from the entrance to the hospital complex. The military released a video showing soldiers carrying fuel containers and placing them in front of a building it said was Al-Shifa Hospital. The hospital is facing fuel and medical-supply shortages, and doctors there say that a power shortage led to the death of two newborns.

israel tries to get fuel to al shifa

its surrounded on 3 sides... but israel still cant get in for some reason... i wonder who will be fighting when the hospital is totally surrounded ... it cant be fighters inside .. right?



ben is doing a nice expose on all this...

Here’s video of hamas using rpgs from the hospital.
m.jpost.com...

a reply to: VermiIion

Hamas wants dead babies to feed those who lap up their propaganda.

Why don't they give their fuel stockpiled so the hospital can run their generators?

Doctors speak about the conditions at the hospitals in Gaza City.



The citizens and hostages lives, health and welfare are of no concern to IDF and Netanyahu.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Doctors speak about the conditions at the hospitals in Gaza City.

The citizens and hostages lives, health and welfare are of no concern to IDF and Netanyahu.

Absolutely wrong again, Hamas is responsible for any and all welfare concerns you have for the innocent.

"Nov 12 (Reuters) - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that Israel had offered fuel to Gaza's Al Shifa hospital, which suspended operations after running out of fuel, but that the militants had refused to receive it."

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: SomeStupidName

I heard they seized the fuel. Either way, it did not end up being used by the hospital to continue operations.

So where is the video about that I wonder?

a reply to: SomeStupidName

Again, where is the verified proof? Everyone just eats up anything that comes out of the IDF and Netanyahu's mouths. They are not held accountable for anything.

a reply to: quintessentone

Who knows?

I believe that there needs to be an independent investigation, by independent experts, who need to be on the ground? No?

Israel's endgame and the U.S. will offer financial incentives to Egypt to take Palestinian refugees for a complete ethnic cleaning/genocide of Gaza territory.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Same question was asked... you just didn't want to answer it until pushed.

So Hamas aims and goals benefit the most. So who do you think is responsible?

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: SomeStupidName

Again, where is the verified proof? Everyone just eats up anything that comes out of the IDF and Netanyahu's mouths. They are not held accountable for anything.

You wouldn't acknowledge it if you where standing in front of it while it was happening. It's clear you are not interested in the truth.

LIVE with IDF spokesperson exposing Hanas infrastructure t.co...— Israel Defense Forces (@IDF) November 13, 2023

IDF on how Hamas used a hospital