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Netanyahou suspends far-right minister who proposed dropping a nuclear bomb in Gaza

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posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:28 AM
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originally posted by: CaptainZ

campaign of ethnic cleansing.


If that was true, Gaza should be already leveled from length to width, with Israel giving no warnings, giving no calls to evacuate, and would not waste money on precision weapons.
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posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:33 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ

campaign of ethnic cleansing.


If that was true, Gaza should be already leveled from length to width, with Israel giving no warnings, giving no calls to evacuate, and would not waste money on precision weapons.


It's in the process of doing so unless you live in an alternate reality.

Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forcibly moved to the Southern parts of Gaza. Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.

Regardless of the warnings Israel has been killing innocent civilians at an alarming rate as described even by the New York Times

www.nytimes.com...


Gaza Civilians, Under Israeli Barrage, Are Being Killed at Historic Pace

Even a conservative assessment of the reported Gaza casualty figures shows that the rate of death during Israel’s assault has few precedents in this century, experts say.


I find it amusing you're trying to excuse and justify the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Israel.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:37 AM
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originally posted by: CaptainZ
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Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forcibly moved to the Southern parts of Gaza. Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.




Oh. So Israel isn’t systematically targeting citizen. The individuals finally got smart enough to move away from the legitimate terrorist targets of Israel.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: CaptainZ

Again. Hamas isn’t about freedom fighting or taking land. Hamas is out to kill all Jews. Hamas made this about who and how which side will survive as a race. And if Hamas will impose a theocracy on the region vs Israel that offers human rights and freedom of religion.


You have stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.


Israel is going after valid targets. It’s on Hamas that will not evacuate their civilians, will not build them bomb shelters like the Israelis had from years of Hamas launching thousands of rockets into Israel, Hamas cowering behind civilians, Hamas turning neighborhoods into rocket bases and factories, and schools into rocket storage.

How is Israel to remove a government that is Hamas that sanctioned the specific targeting of civilians on Oct 7th with murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, the torture and abuse of hostages.


You have stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves

You live in a very strange alternate reality I am afraid.

You say Israel is going after valid targets... Yes by killing thousands of innocent civilians and committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Nobody can excuse Israel's actions apart from those who give unequivocal support to Israel, some Evangelical Christians, ultra right wing fascistoids, and the lunatics.

amp.theguardian.com...


According to the independent Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, which is chaired by US emeritus law professor and former UN special rapporteur on Palestine, Richard Falk, the civilian death toll as of 20 November is 16,413, with nearly 34,000 injured. This would mean one in every 142 Palestinian civilians killed in a month and a half.


Look ho legitimate these targets are... Pretty much everything in Gaza is a legitimate target according to the IDF



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:40 AM
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originally posted by: CaptainZ


Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.





So? What is it with years of Hamas launching rockets into Israel in the thousands.

And how does Israel take out those launch sites and rocket storage housed in neighborhoods and schools?
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posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: CaptainZ

Look ho legitimate these targets are... Pretty much everything in Gaza is a legitimate target according to the IDF



It’s what happens when Hamas cowers in and uses neighborhoods, hospitals, schools illegally as rocket bases, rocket factories, rocket storage, and builds Hamas command tunnels under Hospitals.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:43 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ
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Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forcibly moved to the Southern parts of Gaza. Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.




Oh. So Israel isn’t systematically targeting citizen. The individuals finally got smart enough to move away from the legitimate terrorist targets of Israel.


No. They have been forcibly removed which is a war crime and attacked at the same time. Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. There is no justification or excuse for what they are doing.

www.africanews.com...


TheSouth African government on Monday called on the International Criminal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by mid-December.

Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni said it would signal a "total failure" of global governance if the ICC does not do so.

"The world cannot simply stand by and watch. The global community needs to rise to stop this genocide now," said Ntshavheni.


Pay particular attention to the the genocide statement made above by the South Africans

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posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:44 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ


Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.





So? What is it with years of Hamas launching rockets into Israel in the thousands.

And how does Israel take out those launch sites and rocket storage housed in neighborhoods and schools?



You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 05:50 AM
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originally posted by: CaptainZ

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ


Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.





So? What is it with years of Hamas launching rockets into Israel in the thousands.

And how does Israel take out those launch sites and rocket storage housed in neighborhoods and schools?



You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.


Again, Israel told people to evacuate. Gives warnings. Uses precision weapons to take out terrorist targets. Where Hamas refuses to evacuate civilians and cowered behind them. Turning neighborhoods, schools into rocket launch sites, rocket factories, and storage.

How else is Israel to remove Hamas the elected government of Gaza that sanctioned the targeting of civilians on Oct 7th with murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, and the on going abuse and torturing of current hostages.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: CaptainZ


Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.





So? What is it with years of Hamas launching rockets into Israel in the thousands.

And how does Israel take out those launch sites and rocket storage housed in neighborhoods and schools?



You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.


Again, Israel told people to evacuate. Gives warnings. Uses precision weapons to take out terrorist targets. Where Hamas refuses to evacuate civilians and cowered behind them. Turning neighborhoods, schools into rocket launch sites, rocket factories, and storage.

How else is Israel to remove Hamas the elected government of Gaza that sanctioned the targeting of civilians on Oct 7th with murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, and the on going abuse and torturing of current hostages.


You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.

We all know about the aims and objectives of this campaign by Israel i.e to take revenge and kill as many innocent Palestinians as possible, destroy large parts of Gaza, end drive Palestinians out of their land. In a few words mas murder and ethnic cleansing.

Everyone knows it by now and you seem to be supporting what they do. It's just that you have no moral argument and no argument at all.

Giving warnings hasn't prevented Israel from mass murdering innocent civilians in Gaza and destroyed much of its infrastructure. Are you seriously using warnings as an argument or you think it can be used in the International Criminal Court?!



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: CaptainZ

Again.

Hamas refuses to evacuate its civilians, uses them as human shields, Hamas integrates the launching, building, and storage of its terror rockets into civilian infrastructure. Hamas illegally cowers behind civilians and civilians infrastructure.

How else is Israel to remove Hamas the elected government of Gaza that sanctioned the targeting of civilians on Oct 7th with murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, and the on going abuse and torturing of current hostages.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 06:10 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: CaptainZ

Again.

Hamas refuses to evacuate its civilians, uses them as human shields, Hamas integrates the launching, building, and storage of its terror rockets into civilian infrastructure. Hamas illegally cowers behind civilians and civilians infrastructure.

How else is Israel to remove Hamas the elected government of Gaza that sanctioned the targeting of civilians on Oct 7th with murder, rape, torture, kidnapping, and the on going abuse and torturing of current hostages.


You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.

We all know about the aims and objectives of this campaign by Israel i.e to take revenge and kill as many innocent Palestinians as possible, destroy large parts of Gaza, end drive Palestinians out of their land. In a few words mas murder and ethnic cleansing.

Everyone knows it by now and you seem to be supporting what they do. It's just that you have no moral argument and no argument at all.

Giving warnings hasn't prevented Israel from mass murdering innocent civilians in Gaza and destroyed much of its infrastructure. Are you seriously using warnings as an argument or you think it can be used in the International Criminal Court?!



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 06:15 AM
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It’s not the Israelis fault that Hamas illegally integrated its terrorist command tunnels, and the building, storage, and launching of terror rockets into the thousands into Gaza neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals.


If Israel wanted to genocide Gaza, civilians wouldn’t be allowed to move and evacuate.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: CaptainZ

It’s not the Israelis fault that Hamas illegally integrated its terrorist command tunnels, and the building, storage, and launching of terror rockets into the thousands into Gaza neighborhoods, schools, and hospitals.


If Israel wanted to genocide Gaza, civilians wouldn’t be allowed to move and evacuate.


Israel has been committing war crimes and crimes against humanity and mass murder of innocent civilians. This is the reality of this war. You can't argue against it using arguments such as the warnings given as if this prevented the death of so many innocent civilians. It's a bogus argument.

Israel hasn't allowed Palestinians to the move to the South, it's called forced expulsion under the threat of bombings and the threat of death that as a result of the bombings. Forced expulsion is a war crime by the way.

You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid. The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Others say genocide too. You seem to be ignoring the facts. But the facts speak for themselves.



posted on Dec, 5 2023 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: CaptainZ

If your going to keep cut and pasting…


originally posted by: CaptainZ


You have been stuck into the Hamas argument that takes you nowhere I am afraid.


What arguments is that.

Israel gave land up for peace for a chance at a political solution.

That was repaid with thousands of rockets fired into Israel over years. Where bomb shelters and playgrounds and schooling in bomb shelters became mainstays in Israel.

Israel showed restraint and tried for a political solution for years.

Then Oct 7 happened. Hamas targeting specifically Israeli civilians with murder, rape, torture, kidnapping. With no military objective or justification. No excuse. Stop whitewashing that fact, and ignoring that Israel is now dealing with a blatant criminal government.



originally posted by: CaptainZ

The Israeli Army has been murdering thousands of innocent civilians over the last 7 weeks or so and engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing.


Israel is quite clear, they want the civilians out of the way. It’s Hamas that refuses to evacuate their citizens.

The Oct 13 explosions at Salah-al-Din street killing 70 people trying to evacuate are most likely from Hamas booby traps with no evidence of an Israeli air strike. Hamas doesn’t want to lose control of their human shields they cower behind.

The “ investigation” seems to have stopped as it became increasingly clearer it was probably Hamas responsible for the deaths.



originally posted by: CaptainZ

Others say genocide too.


By the same people that try to change the subject from the truth and try to whitewash Hamas uses torture and rape?


originally posted by: CaptainZ


You seem to be ignoring the facts.


From Salah-al-Din street to the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital parking lot incident. It’s quite clear Hamas is a danger to its own citizens, lies, and inflates the number of civilians casualties by a factor of 3 to five times. And are willing to lie on the nature of their deaths.




originally posted by: CaptainZ

The citizens of Gaza have been forcibly removed which is a war crime by its own.



Again. It’s not Israel’s fault Hamas illegally integrates itself into civilian infrastructure. It’s not Israel’s fault Hamas cowers by changing neighborhoods, schools into rocket launch sites, rocket manufacturing, and rocket storage to literally launch thousands of rockets into Israel. And Hamas shields its terrorist command tunnels by building them under hospitals, and other civilian infrastructure. Then doesn’t have the decency to allowed civilians to shelter in them as bomb shelters. Where the tunnels were built by Hamas steeling aid to go to civilians?

If Israel wanted to genocide civilians, they wouldn’t call for and allow for evacuations.
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