I took my 15 year old for a wellness checkup…

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Me - "The needs of the many do not dictate the needs of the few"

Thank you for your perspective.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Me - "The needs of the many do not dictate the needs of the few"

Yes, the majority rules in most things.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Me - "The needs of the many do not dictate the needs of the few"

Yes, the majority rules in most things.

Should it?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Me - "The needs of the many do not dictate the needs of the few"

Yes, the majority rules in most things.

Should it?

In a democratic society, yes it should.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Me - "The needs of the many do not dictate the needs of the few"

Yes, the majority rules in most things.

Should it?

In a democratic society, yes it should.

But aren't we a Republic? OK -- gotta go -- later.

a reply to: Annee

My sisters daughter has autism! She was not born with it! At 7 after a shot she was a mess! Sad

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Me - "The needs of the many do not dictate the needs of the few"

Yes, the majority rules in most things.

Should it?

In a democratic society, yes it should.

But aren't we a Republic? OK -- gotta go -- later.

That a complex question. Here's one take on it.

At the very least we can choose to wear masks now and not stand out as crazy weird in public.

So Republic vs. Democratic - they are exactly the same as they both state that "the power of the people are held through (or directly by (Dems) their elected officials".

Where do these types of personal choices come in, it's freedom of choice, is that a majority rule to have freedom of choice?

a reply to: quintessentone

Not when allowing men in bathrooms. Not when applying for college. Not when applying for jobs...the list goes on and on.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: quintessentone

Not when allowing men in bathrooms. Not when applying for college. Not when applying for jobs...the list goes on and on.

Well as I stated above and addressing the subject of this thread, the freedom of choice to or not to vax is the freedom of choice.

originally posted by: JJproductions
a reply to: Annee

My sisters daughter has autism! She was not born with it! At 7 after a shot she was a mess! Sad

Perhaps in another thread.

"Regressive Autism" – Causes, Symptoms, and Management: www.autismparentingmagazine.com...

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: chr0naut

I mis-stated the year and it should have read 2020.
The year of the lock down.
Even though 2021 was lower than normal.
2020 was practically non existent.

And I guess you think it is a good thing that an experimental vaccine should be able to bypass the animal and human testing phase before approval.


You made all that stuff up about the approval process.

They snuck in comirnaty in the EUA.
They applied for mRNA and snuck comirnaty onto the application even though it was not manufactured for SARS2 cv19

What is criminal is the fda allowed it to happen

x.com...

I repeated the query in CDC Wonder and replaced the filter for the year 2020-2021 with the year 2019-2020.

The resultant number of SIDS deaths during that year were 1,389 infant deaths classified as SIDS. Which was 77 fewer deaths for the year than in 2020-2021.

The CDC Wonder result for 2019-2020 is exactly the same as the preliminary report for the same period on this CDC page: Sudden Unexpected Infant Death and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome

So, the numbers were low, but SIDS did not disappear.

And the combined sudden unexpected infant death (SUID) rate has remained fairly constant since 1999. This is probably because classification of infant deaths according to cause is probably improving as medical technology and forensic knowledge improves

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: chr0naut

Untrue.
You fully and simply do not understand what a glycoprotein is.

To be clear, glycoproteins are when a glycan carbohydrate is linked to a protein. Although the protein is conjugate to the glycan in a glycoprotein, it would not be helpful to confuse the terms glycan and glycoprotein.

There are approximately 12 different(approximately 250 found in nature) monosaccharides that form combinations in a tree or cactus like shape in configurations.
And they attach to a single protein that attaches to the cell wall.
The single protein....attaches to the cell wall.
Glycoproteins are the IT network and cell-cell communication system where cells communicate in quantum.

Cell to cell messaging is not required in RNA transcription, which happens within the cell. It may be required in the production of antibodies, but that is a function of the immune system, regardless of the antigen.

You are misunderstanding your Google searches.
You get a lot of it but you have too much commitment to fit sars2 into it.
The spike protein is not human.
It is possibly bat or snake.

The spike protein is viral. It is found in the capsid of SARS-CoV-2 virions.

The spike protein sequence used in the immunizations is not entirely the same as the viral one. The mRNA sequence lacks most of the amino-terminal (N-terminal) domain (NTD), which in the virus includes several glycans, but this domain was determined to be too mutable and already has existing antibodies to it in most people. Also the mRNA sequence includes promoter sequences at either end to make transcription more likely to occur and to make the sequence more stable.

The spike protein binding affinity is strongest to specifically human ACE2, due to its furin-cleavage. For this reason although its ancestry may possibly be transgenic, it is clearly specifically adapted and has arisen in its current form in human beings.

SARS-CoV-2 has also been shown to be recombinant, which means it may have only acquired attributes from other virii, from other species, in recombinant events and may not have actually initially 'arisen' per-se in those transgenic species usually proposed (bat and pangolin).

But it is not a human functional glycoprotein.
And since no animal protein can bypass the digestive acids and into the bloodstream, the only way it can be in the bloodstream is intravenous injection.

... or, the protein could be bound to a virus, which enters cells exterior to the blood stream and, upon the breakdown of those infected cells, enters the bloodstream directly along with the cellular waste products. That is the bit where the SARS-CoV-2 link, that I keep mentioning, comes into play.

So, the spike protein is NOT a human protein, and to insert just the protein, without all the viral nastiness, so that the immune system can create antibodies to it, it probably needs to be injected.

Even the mRNA sequence, and its lipid encapsulation, would be digested if taken orally.

The spike protein itself is NOT in the injections. The mRNA that codes for the spike protein is in the injection, and a lipid which coats the mRNA, and water.

And also, as an afterthought, they don't require the spike protein made by the immunization to be functional. It doesn't have to bind to ACE2, or 'do' anything really. It just has to be similar enough to the viral version to trigger immune response.

I cannot even understand what you just tried to say.

You made almost all of that up from whole cloth.

You have absolutely no idea what you just claimed.
You have 0 understanding so your synopsis of your Google searches lacks cohesiveness and semblance to things I presented.

To be clear, glycoproteins are when a glycan carbohydrate is linked to a protein. Although the protein is conjugate to the glycan in a glycoprotein, it would not be helpful to confuse the terms glycan and glycoprotein.

Without glycans, you have only a protein for instance.
It is in the name, glyoprotein.
Glyco(sugar molecules, or monosacharrides, or glycans)- protein ( protein, a single protein that attaches to the cell wall).
Sugar molecules (glycans)that attach to a protein.
Is called a glycoprotein.
Glycans are glyconutrients necessary for it to be a glycoprotein.
Otherwise it is not a glycoprotein.

Everything you just claimed you made up.
All of it.

Which of the 250 different glycans found in nature are on a spike protein?

If it is mannose site how and why.

Mannose is found in all phases of a glycoprotein formation.
Consider that glycans are the alphabet to the cell-cell communication being described.

And the order of the chains of monosacharrides formed is the message in paragraphs.
Each cell forms it's own sequence of these chains just like you use words to present this convoluted message I am trying to make sense of and respond to.
You are trying to use a bunch of different scientific sounding words you Google but refuse to try and understand it enough to fit known science that dates back 45 years in biochemistry text books.

So, I will focus this post on the low hanging fruit.

Your statement about glycans, that "it would not be helpful to confuse the terms glycan and glycoprotein" is a clear sign you have no idea whatsoever of the content you are trying so hard to educate others on.

My subject matter is about glycoproteins.
You cannot have a glycoprotein without glycans, or it is just a protein.
You make no sense.
Lots of Google gleans but no substance as a result.

So which glycans make a S glycoprotein?
To me it looks like mannose and only mannose.
And the cell-cell message is war-pandemic-dysfunction.
Like mannose in this case means racist-mysogenist-orange man.

There has been only about a dozen monosacharrides identified in a glycoprotein.
And each and every cell has a different configuration.
No 2 glycoproteins are the same.
There are as many different glycoproteins as there are cells in the same exact way there are different messages from different posters on this thread and website, even the entire internet.
Except this S-protein.

This man made Spike that can only be administered intravenously because digestive enzymes break down animal proteins and cannot enter our bloodstream.



Bioweapon




One more point for clarification.

A protein attaches to the cell wall, and THEN the glycoprotein is formed through about 6 or 7 phases where monosacharrides (letters) are organized into chains(words, sentences) to form messages like food, waste, distress, dis-ease, etc.

Yet you claim this S-protein free floats around looking for a target.
That sir, is not a human immune function.
A glycoprotein is formed on the cell wall, not by random or by chance.
Complete predetermined process with direction and purpose for each and every cell to communicate by.
The S-protein is being used to transmit in a reverse engineering way to implement the mRNA messaging from without into the cells RNA implementing genetic engineering and modifying DNA.

THE S PROTEIN IS NOT HUMAN MANUFACTURED.
Bioweapon.

So your mission.
What glycans are being used in a spike protein?
Just mannose?
Where are they harvesting the mannose from? Aloe Vera?
Ostrich eggs?

Because of the 12 necessary glycans used to form a complete glycoprotein mannose

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: chr0naut

I mis-stated the year and it should have read 2020.
The year of the lock down.
Even though 2021 was lower than normal.
2020 was practically non existent.

And I guess you think it is a good thing that an experimental vaccine should be able to bypass the animal and human testing phase before approval.


You made all that stuff up about the approval process.

They snuck in comirnaty in the EUA.
They applied for mRNA and snuck comirnaty onto the application even though it was not manufactured for SARS2 cv19

What is criminal is the fda allowed it to happen

x.com...

I repeated the query in CDC Wonder and replaced the filter for the year 2020-2021 with the year 2019-2020.

The resultant number of SIDS deaths during that year were 1,389 infant deaths classified as SIDS. Which was 77 fewer deaths for the year than in 2020-2021.

The CDC Wonder result for 2019-2020 is exactly the same as the preliminary report for the same period on this CDC page: Sudden Unexpected Infant Death and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome

So, the numbers were low, but SIDS did not disappear.

And the combined sudden unexpected infant death (SUID) rate has remained fairly constant since 1999. This is probably because classification of infant deaths according to cause is probably improving as medical technology and forensic knowledge improves

I said 2020.
The year of the lock downs.
You said 2019, I will search for that instead

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee
Isn't being healthy preferred for prescribing preventative medicine?

Should you put it off until you have full blown Covid -- to get vaccinated?

The covid19, flu and HPV vaccines are highly recommended by governments but are not mandatory for school age children, so the OP has every right to refuse them. But getting full blown Covid can cause a lot of bodily damage from what I am reading, maybe that's why the doctor was so insistent. They say the vaccine side effects outweigh the potential damage the virus could cause.

Government school?

What about my child? I want my child protected. I want to know that my child is with other children who are vaccinated.

What if your school child is vulnerable. Should that child be forced to come in contact with another child that is not vaccinated.

You see -- it's not that simple.

BTW -- my brother died of Covid.

My condolences to you for the death of your brother, that's so sad.

I get what you are saying and the school environment because it is, how can I put this, a petri dish.

Thank you.

YES - it is.

Where do rights begin and end? And we're talking about a government school -- right?

No one says you have to go to a government school -- but if you do you should follow the rules. I think I have a right to certain expectations.

I've been thinking lately -- how it's getting scarier and scarier to go out among people -- especially large crowds. And there's very little need to do that -- as everything you need is online and can be delivered.

Reminds me of ancient times of walled cities. We've come so far.

I you don't vax -- stay outside the walls.

Yes it is sad and I know it feels when a family member is taken before their time (assuming here).

I am in the state of what they now term as the 'vaccine fatigued'. I don't want to vax anymore and take the usual precautions when outdoors or working, so we'll see how well that will go. I just don't have control of other family members coming and going and two family members are exposed to large crowds almost daily.

I don't think about it. The anti-vax has been so over blown.

My kid needs me. I don't need to die like my brother did.

My mother was a polio victim. Too bad that vax didn't come sooner.

But again -- where do rights begin and where do they end?

It's a balancing act for sure between choices and rights.

Definitely!!!

I don't want your un-vaxed kid around my vaxed kid.

So you forced your kid to get vaxxed against his will.
And you did it so you can try and force other peoples kids to get vaxed?

So all this is to superimpose your will onto others?

If it was my adult child I would set out all the info in front of him, pro and con, and let him decide for himself after he researched it and came to his own conclusion.


That is a horror story you just gave.

Your kid did not want to get vexed so you forced him to go with you to a Vax event and after all that you then had to spend hours brow beating him with peer pressure and Promax indoctrination to force him against his will to allow others to inject poisons into him.

Just so you can use him for your own virtue signaling and content for blogging.
You seem to only care about family for personal online content.

That is really twisted stuff Annee.
And it makes you a hypocrite for how you previously claimed your kid has free will.
Free will as long as he believes and does what you tell him to think and do.

I may have misunderstood you.
When you claimed your kid is binary we thought you meant gender, not in thinking and attempting critical thought.

That is so twisted what you are bragging you did to him.

Can you please stop using your family for anecdotes in virtue signaling.
We should not have to suffer the consequences of looking like we attack your family members when refuting your falsehoods.
Really bad for, and twisted.
Did I mention that's really twisted what you are bragging about?
Just because you are a washed up has been actress does not allow you theatrical liberties to make up scenes and events to fit the script.
Ad lib scenes can ruin the meaning and integrity of the movie if you cannot allow the Director to direct you.
In this case it becomes pure hypocrisy.
Stop using your family members to virtue signal please.
I do not want to talk about them.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee
Isn't being healthy preferred for prescribing preventative medicine?

Should you put it off until you have full blown Covid -- to get vaccinated?

The covid19, flu and HPV vaccines are highly recommended by governments but are not mandatory for school age children, so the OP has every right to refuse them. But getting full blown Covid can cause a lot of bodily damage from what I am reading, maybe that's why the doctor was so insistent. They say the vaccine side effects outweigh the potential damage the virus could cause.

Government school?

What about my child? I want my child protected. I want to know that my child is with other children who are vaccinated.

What if your school child is vulnerable. Should that child be forced to come in contact with another child that is not vaccinated.

You see -- it's not that simple.

BTW -- my brother died of Covid.

My condolences to you for the death of your brother, that's so sad.

I get what you are saying and the school environment because it is, how can I put this, a petri dish.

Thank you.

YES - it is.

Where do rights begin and end? And we're talking about a government school -- right?

No one says you have to go to a government school -- but if you do you should follow the rules. I think I have a right to certain expectations.

I've been thinking lately -- how it's getting scarier and scarier to go out among people -- especially large crowds. And there's very little need to do that -- as everything you need is online and can be delivered.

Reminds me of ancient times of walled cities. We've come so far.

I you don't vax -- stay outside the walls.

Yes it is sad and I know it feels when a family member is taken before their time (assuming here).

I am in the state of what they now term as the 'vaccine fatigued'. I don't want to vax anymore and take the usual precautions when outdoors or working, so we'll see how well that will go. I just don't have control of other family members coming and going and two family members are exposed to large crowds almost daily.

I don't think about it. The anti-vax has been so over blown.

My kid needs me. I don't need to die like my brother did.

My mother was a polio victim. Too bad that vax didn't come sooner.

But again -- where do rights begin and where do they end?

It's a balancing act for sure between choices and rights.

Definitely!!!

I don't want your un-vaxed kid around my vaxed kid.

So you forced your kid to get vaxxed against his will.

I force him to go to school against his will too.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee
Isn't being healthy preferred for prescribing preventative medicine?

Should you put it off until you have full blown Covid -- to get vaccinated?

The covid19, flu and HPV vaccines are highly recommended by governments but are not mandatory for school age children, so the OP has every right to refuse them. But getting full blown Covid can cause a lot of bodily damage from what I am reading, maybe that's why the doctor was so insistent. They say the vaccine side effects outweigh the potential damage the virus could cause.

Government school?

What about my child? I want my child protected. I want to know that my child is with other children who are vaccinated.

What if your school child is vulnerable. Should that child be forced to come in contact with another child that is not vaccinated.

You see -- it's not that simple.

BTW -- my brother died of Covid.

My condolences to you for the death of your brother, that's so sad.

I get what you are saying and the school environment because it is, how can I put this, a petri dish.

Thank you.

YES - it is.

Where do rights begin and end? And we're talking about a government school -- right?

No one says you have to go to a government school -- but if you do you should follow the rules. I think I have a right to certain expectations.

I've been thinking lately -- how it's getting scarier and scarier to go out among people -- especially large crowds. And there's very little need to do that -- as everything you need is online and can be delivered.

Reminds me of ancient times of walled cities. We've come so far.

I you don't vax -- stay outside the walls.

Yes it is sad and I know it feels when a family member is taken before their time (assuming here).

I am in the state of what they now term as the 'vaccine fatigued'. I don't want to vax anymore and take the usual precautions when outdoors or working, so we'll see how well that will go. I just don't have control of other family members coming and going and two family members are exposed to large crowds almost daily.

I don't think about it. The anti-vax has been so over blown.

My kid needs me. I don't need to die like my brother did.

My mother was a polio victim. Too bad that vax didn't come sooner.

But again -- where do rights begin and where do they end?

It's a balancing act for sure between choices and rights.

Definitely!!!

I don't want your un-vaxed kid around my vaxed kid.

So you forced your kid to get vaxxed against his will.

I force him to go to school against his will too.

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originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: chr0naut

I mis-stated the year and it should have read 2020.
The year of the lock down.
Even though 2021 was lower than normal.
2020 was practically non existent.

And I guess you think it is a good thing that an experimental vaccine should be able to bypass the animal and human testing phase before approval.


You made all that stuff up about the approval process.

They snuck in comirnaty in the EUA.
They applied for mRNA and snuck comirnaty onto the application even though it was not manufactured for SARS2 cv19

What is criminal is the fda allowed it to happen

x.com...

I repeated the query in CDC Wonder and replaced the filter for the year 2020-2021 with the year 2019-2020.

The resultant number of SIDS deaths during that year were 1,389 infant deaths classified as SIDS. Which was 77 fewer deaths for the year than in 2020-2021.

The CDC Wonder result for 2019-2020 is exactly the same as the preliminary report for the same period on this CDC page: Sudden Unexpected Infant Death and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome

So, the numbers were low, but SIDS did not disappear.

And the combined sudden unexpected infant death (SUID) rate has remained fairly constant since 1999. This is probably because classification of infant deaths according to cause is probably improving as medical technology and forensic knowledge improves

I said 2020.
The year of the lock downs.
You said 2019, I will search for that instead

The year notated in CDC Wonder as 2019-2020 is the same as the year ending in 2020.
The year notated in CDC Wonder as 2020-2021 is the same as the year ending in 2021.

As I have supplied the data from both years, I think that I have addressed the issue you were alleging, adequately.