Jewish Academic fired over his criticisms of Israel's attacks in Gaza

originally posted by: Leviathan4
These are flawed arguments that follow the flawed lime of your reasoning.

It's NOT a 'flawed argument'. It's COMMON SENSE. You fail to address it.

Your argument is just terrible and you have argued that civilians are not targeted because the entire population hasn't been killed....

LIAR That's not what I said and I've told you that over and over.

If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT.

If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT.

If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT.

a reply to: Leviathan4

"You can't speak for all the reservists and the army. It's a terrible argument."

Can you?

Not seeing any lack of patriotism?

From those willing to put their lives on the line.

As opposed to hand wringing "academics" and such non combatants?

originally posted by: Leviathan4
You clearly have a very bad day and you're emotionally charged.

That's it. I'm done with you. You fail to address the topic, post the same off topic spam, make false comments about my supposed emotional feelings even when being warned not to, and lie. Obviously you are just a troll. I'm not going to feed you.

THE QUESTION THE OP REFUSES TO ADDRESS - If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT.

LET THIS THREAD DIE THE DEATH IT DESERVES.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"You can't speak for all the reservists and the army. It's a terrible argument."

Can you?

Not seeing any lack of patriotism?

From those willing to put their lives on the line.

As opposed to hand wringing "academics" and such non combatants?

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I am not challenging their patriotism but the idea that all these people are in favour of this conflict isn't correct. When you're ordered to go to war you go to war. That doesn't imply you want to war or you agree with the Government.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
Anyone who has chosen to make a false equivalency between support for peace and support Hamas has been refuted.

No ... not 'refuted' at all. 'Refuted' is in your imagination. There is no 'peace' with a 'cease fire'. It just strangles Israel so they can't defend themselves and gives Hamas time to reload. Hamas and the Palestinians have been offered peace and a two state solution five times. They rejected it each time. You continually fail to address this fact.

Yes I forgot that you have also made another false equivalency argument where any criticism of the Israeli Government and support for peace is regarded as support for Hamas and support for terrorism.

Let's see if the war is so popular in other countries around the world. I don't think it is. According to your argument these people are now Hamas supporters or terrorism supporters. Did you really think of it yourself or you had some help?

You clearly have a very bad day and you're emotionally charged.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Leviathan4
You clearly have a very bad day and you're emotionally charged.

That's it. I'm done with you. You fail to address the topic, post the same off topic spam, make false comments about my supposed emotional feelings even when being warned not to, and lie. Obviously you are just a troll. I'm not going to feed you.

THE QUESTION THE OP REFUSES TO ADDRESS - If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT.

LET THIS THREAD DIE THE DEATH IT DESERVES.

It is you who has failed to address the topic that nor everyone wants war and that there are Jewish people (and many of them) who disagree with the actions of their Government.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Errr...... didn't you post about the IDF pilots who signed a letter disagreeing with bombing, a few years ago now, mind?

Perhaps you forgot about posting that?

Terrible argument, by the way.

a reply to: Leviathan4

And more of them agree.

Like I said, democracy v minority opinions.

You go with the latter, most folk don't.

When we have elections, should the party who gets the least votes rule?

Seems a terrible argument to me?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

And more of them agree.

Like I said, democracy v minority opinions.

You go with the latter, most folk don't.

When we have elections, should the party who gets the least votes rule?

Seems a terrible argument to me?

I am sorry I don't get you here. Are you talking about what is happening in the world or just in Israel? There are many voices against the war in Israel-Palestine. You may want to take a look at what happens in your country.

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According to a Middle East Eye report, a poll published by the UK-based public data company YouGov indicates that76 percent of British adult citizens believe a ceasefire should be implemented between Israel and Gaza's resistance.

When UK citizens were asked whether there should be an immediate ceasefire in the Gaza Strip, 58 percent of the poll respondents said that they "definitely should," while 18 percent said they "probably should." Eight percent of respondents objected to the notion of a ceasefire, with only 16 percent claiming that they were not sure.

The poll had been conducted on 19 October, gathering answers.The poll had 2,685 respondents, 58 percent of whom said they are in support of an immediate ceasefire

The majority of them want ceasefire and peace just as all sane people.

According to the previous arguments by the another member all those of your compatriots are Hamas and terrorism supporters.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Errr...... didn't you post about the IDF pilots who signed a letter disagreeing with bombing, a few years ago now, mind?

Perhaps you forgot about posting that?

Terrible argument, by the way.

It's not only Jewish Academics who are sane but Israeli Pilots too. It actually makes the argument even stronger.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

pm regarding login

cheers mate

a reply to: UpIsNowDown2

Not getting pms?

a reply to: Leviathan4

Unfortunately, Hamas does not want peace and are not sane.

As for the rest of your post, you make no sense? At all?

a reply to: Leviathan4

Your point about Israeli pilots is from years ago.

Not current.

So dishonest?

Shameful.

a reply to: FlyersFan

LIAR That's not what I said and I've told you that over and over. If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT. If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT. If Israel was targeting civilians then a lot more of them would be dead then just a few thousand. ADDRESS THAT FACT.

Repetition is a form of mind control. I guess you know that already though..

Consdering who owns the media we dont know how many have been killed and thats a fact.

Funny how a few fans and blankets managed to circumnavigate the best aerial defense system in the world.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Exactly. There are self haters in every group.

lol that is so over simplfied it made me laugh. It depends on your classification and grouping..

originally posted by: Leviathan4


1) Complete siege of Gaza

Maybe Hamas shouldn’t change a civilian city into a missile base.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

2) Incitement to genocide

Huh. Then why doesn’t Israel just wipe Gaza off the map. But reality is Israel uses surgical strikes and warns the population. As pointed out to you.

Vs? Hamas forcing Gaza civilians in place to act as human shields

While Hamas launches rocket / missile attacks from civilian buildings. Attacks aimed at nothing but Jewish civilians. Where often Hamas rockets misfire killing civilians in Gaza

originally posted by: Leviathan4

3) Collective punishment

Right or wrong. Israel gave warning to leave Gaza and worked on a corridor for an out. Hamas booby trapped the corridor killing 70 in a convoy.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
4) Forced expulsion

Not the same as giving warning to clear the area for military strikes.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population

Based on what evidence. The lies concerning a hospital and the Hamas rockets the misfire killing civilians in Gaza? Israel goes after valid military targets. Hamas is using human shields.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Hamas redefines those structures once they launch rockets for those sites or they become a base of militant operations for Hamas.

I need a question answered. In the following clip we have a "Jew" have a discussion with a Palestinian.

Now the question is, is he a Talmudic Pharisees Jew, or a Torah Sadducees Jew.

And if you know, what type of Jews are in control of Israel today.

Thanks in advance

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Unfortunately, Hamas does not want peace and are not sane.

As for the rest of your post, you make no sense? At all?

Perhaps you need to address again this as you have conveniently ignored it

According to a Middle East Eye report, a poll published by the UK-based public data company YouGov indicates that76 percent of British adult citizens believe a ceasefire should be implemented between Israel and Gaza's resistance.

When UK citizens were asked whether there should be an immediate ceasefire in the Gaza Strip, 58 percent of the poll respondents said that they "definitely should," while 18 percent said they "probably should." Eight percent of respondents objected to the notion of a ceasefire, with only 16 percent claiming that they were not sure.

The poll had been conducted on 19 October, gathering answers.The poll had 2,685 respondents, 58 percent of whom said they are in support of an immediate ceasefire

The majority of them want ceasefire and peace just as all sane people.

According to the previous arguments by the another member all those of your compatriots are Hamas and terrorism supporters

It's clear there are many people who want ceasefire. I know it doesn't suit your argument and the argument others made but it's the reality.

And the post makes a lot of sense. It's just you don't want to address it....

a reply to: Leviathan4

Ah , there is No Man Given Right to Free Speech in Israel . no FOIA too . Sometimes they Even Forget God gave them One............