Israeli TV footage appears to show Gaza hospital blast came from Palestinian rocket

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Israeli media shared footage from their own cameras that appears to show at least one rocket fired from Palestinians in Gaza falling short and landing on a hospital in their own territory.

The footage, shared by Keshet 12 News, clearly shows multiple rockets launching toward Israel on Tuesday. Moments later, a blast is seen in Gaza midway along the rockets' trajectory.

"This is proof of Israel's claims that it was actually missiles from the Gaza Strip that shot into the direction of the Alahali Hospital in Gaza City and not from Israel," Keshet 12 anchor Yonit Levi says of the footage.

Well, this is a good break for Israel. They were about to be hung out to dry by the international community.
And with all the lies and bullsh!t spewed by everyone, and I do mean everyone, it's hard to believe anyone, without some proof.
None of this make those lives lost any less gone, and this doesn't make war suddenly a great idea, but it does, at the very least, show who's fault this one incidence is.

a reply to: network dude

This is on topic and upto date info.... ANyone forming an opinion should also factor in the info in this video!!! Important!

a reply to: network dude

Good find! Further confirmation the hospital carnage was caused by "friendly" fire.

a reply to: carewemust

if it was from Israel, the world support would be gone in an instant. (what exists now at least)

They are in a no win situation as far as hearts and minds go. Even if they execute all HAMAS, there are still plenty of Palestinians who have the same mindset and don't like Israel enough to form another group. So without some monumental change, (Biblical end of times change) this is just another chapter in a gruesome book nobody really wants to read.

a reply to: network dude

I wouldn't put it past Hamas to blow up their own hospital just to make some anti Israel propaganda.

Sacrificing a few women and children is a low price to pay.

Not saying this is what happened but would anyone really be surprised if it's true?

a reply to: Bluntone22

that's just it, if Israel did it, it's a horrific attack that cannot stand. If it was HAMAS, well, that's to be expected.

And folks are cheering this on.

The muslim world will still claim Israel did it. They'll believe Hamas. They've been raised to despise Jews and Israel and no amount of truth about how it was Muslims blowing up Muslims will sink in. There are some on ATS who are refusing to accept that as well. Weird considering this sites motto is 'deny ignorance'.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: network dude

I wouldn't put it past Hamas to blow up their own hospital just to make some anti Israel propaganda.

Sacrificing a few women and children is a low price to pay.

Not saying this is what happened but would anyone really be surprised if it's true?

Supposedly, the rocket didn't come from Hamas, it came from the "Palestinian Islamic Jihad"--a group that is competing with Hamas for political influence in Gaza.

a reply to: network dude

The one thing that has me questioning Israel’s claim on this is Hamas rockets just aren’t that powerful.

Now, that said, they’ve been known to store munitions in hospitals before. So that rocket could have set off a stockpile (though, usually with this you’d have secondary explosions, but it depends if they’re propelled arms or not). And as someone pointed out, it could have been Hamas just framing Israel too. It did get a lot of meetings canceled with Biden from Arab countries.

Those canceled meetings may have benefited Israel too though by forcing us to stay tight with them and not have dialogue with neighbors.

Right now, I’m still chalking this one up as fog of war, and needs further evidence. Ultimately, even if it was Israel, I’d be shocked if it wasn’t an accident… which still happened because Hamas decided to do an absolutely heinous attack, so still a level of responsibility on their part.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: network dude

I wouldn't put it past Hamas to blow up their own hospital just to make some anti Israel propaganda.

Sacrificing a few women and children is a low price to pay.

Not saying this is what happened but would anyone really be surprised if it's true?

Supposedly, the rocket didn't come from Hamas, it came from the "Palestinian Islamic Jihad"--a group that is competing with Hamas for political influence in Gaza.

Yes, exactly. I was going to post this in the hospital thread, but I guess here is more appropriate, considering your post.

What is Palestinian Islamic Jihad?
The Islamic Jihad movement in Palestine (Ḥarakat al-Jihād al-Islāmī fī Filasṭīn), or Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as it is more often known, is the second largest armed group in Gaza. It is considered one of the most extreme and uncompromising Palestinian armed factions and operates on the West Bank too. Last week, PIJ were also reported to have attacked Israel from Lebanon. It rejects any political peace process and sees a military victory over Israel as the sole means of attaining its objective of establishing an Islamic state across Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.

What is its relationship with Hamas?
Though it has frequently collaborated closely with Hamas, PIJ remains a rival. Strategic, ideological and interpersonal differences have long prevented any real rapprochement between the two. PIJ has always remained clandestine, with a compartmentalised cell structure, in contrast to the mass mobilisation favoured by Hamas. Nor does it have the extensive welfare network or involvement in administration and government of the bigger group. PIJ and Hamas have frequently clashed on tactics, negotiations and a range of other issues, even if many of their ultimate objectives and core Islamist beliefs remain identical.

Full explainer: www.theguardian.com...

In the end, they're all scum, just different factions.

a reply to: network dude

You can post all the facts and data you want.

Won't make a difference.

The damage has already been done.

Hell, people still believe the Russian hooker pee dossier!

You think this actual data will sway those who just hate Jews?

I think it boils down to who can sacrifice by fire or war or any new contrived manner of death (abortion) the most children of God to Baal/Moloch/baphomet or any of the Gods worshipped in the land of Canaan, for the highest payout in silver.

It's not child friendly place to raise kids especially after Jesus ministry. Holy land?

Drawing board fell off the easel during planning for overzealous miscreants on both sides of the prison gate pleasing only to darkness.

They're sacrificing children and not being called to heal, that's darkness enveloping the earth from my vantage point.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I hate any group that call themself by a religion !

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Bluntone22

that's just it, if Israel did it, it's a horrific attack that cannot stand. If it was HAMAS, well, that's to be expected.

And folks are cheering this on.

Those folks need to understand just how disgusting and evil Hamas is.

Most of the videos, many from Hamas’ own body cams, that I’ve seen circulating don’t show the half of it.

Telegram posts that I have seen, I won’t even post here.

Video of the pigs cutting a baby out of a pregnant woman.

Video of them sooting indiscriminately into the outhouses at the music festival.

Video of a kidnapped family, the little girl crying that her sister was dead, a Hamas voice telling her to “relax, relax” while her father begs them to take him outside instead of his teenage son. They took his son out anyway and shot him.

Video of a black lab running down the path to greet the terrorists getting three bullets before it goes down.

I could go on but that’s more than enough to convince most people that this is next level evil that supersedes “war crimes”.

People who do this or support this need to be wiped off the face of the earth.

originally posted by: Dolby_X
a reply to: DBCowboy

I hate any group that call themself by a religion !

Ummm, okay.

*backs away slowly*

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

The one thing that has me questioning Israel’s claim on this is Hamas rockets just aren’t that powerful.

Now, that said, they’ve been known to store munitions in hospitals before. So that rocket could have set off a stockpile (though, usually with this you’d have secondary explosions, but it depends if they’re propelled arms or not). And as someone pointed out, it could have been Hamas just framing Israel too. It did get a lot of meetings canceled with Biden from Arab countries.

Those canceled meetings may have benefited Israel too though by forcing us to stay tight with them and not have dialogue with neighbors.

Right now, I’m still chalking this one up as fog of war, and needs further evidence. Ultimately, even if it was Israel, I’d be shocked if it wasn’t an accident… which still happened because Hamas decided to do an absolutely heinous attack, so still a level of responsibility on their part.

According to the bishop, there have been two other (and 3 different) strikes on facility and staff housing. Which shifts the entire narrative into whole new territories instantly, and I have yet to see western media picking up on those details.

Interesting development, to say the least. No media outlet would be this picky if it was about dead Ukrainians, amirite?

a reply to: Insurrectile

If Hamas had the balls to segregate themselves from the civilian population things would be different.

a reply to: Dolby_X

Not all Jewish people are religious Jews, yet identify as Jewish, as it is their genetic heritage.

Who are YOU to dictate how people should identify.

If I were to say I hate men who identify as women, you're hair would be on fire!

a reply to: NorthOfStuffx2

I'm not willing to let "human animals" decide how to deal with their decades old "human animal" problem, nor should you.

Ignore the Geneva Convention at your own peril, we wont stand for that.

I think Israel may have got lucky, in that a Hamas rocket did indeed misfire and break up somewhere near or above the hospital. However, the direction of the explosion, it’s sound and impact have, to me, all the hallmarks of a JDAM.