Huge death toll on both Israel and Palestine-Over 1,100 deaths in just 2 days

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4
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There is no proof yet of who is responsible for the attack.

There is footage of the parking lot being hit. Is that false.

There is intercepted chatter that indicated Hamas goofed. Is that false.

There is radar data. Is that false.

There is no missile fragments indicating an Israeli weapon. Is that false.

There is a history of Hamas missiles / rockets miss firing and landing in Gaza killing Citizens in Gaza. Is that false. Which is a war crime? Is that false.

While you ignore Hamas launches rocket / missile attacks against Israel often with no military target. Just civilians. No warning. Vs Israel that gives warnings to the civilian population while targeting military assets shielded by Hamas with humans they forcibly make stay put?

There could be footage but I don't know whether this is true or not or whether it has not been manipulated

Can you trust Hamas? You said no.

Can you trust the Israeli side? You seem to be trusting them quite a lot given also your position in this matter.

But don't forget that only two days ago the IDF through its spokesman said that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza

www.timesofisrael.com...

An Israeli security official says there is currently no humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip, as the military continues to order Palestinians to move south.

A few days ago the Israeli Ambassador to the UK said the same thing

www.businessinsider.com...

Israel's ambassador says there's no humanitarian crisis in Gaza as Israel bombs and lays siege to it, killing thousands of Palestinians

Clearly they're lying in such a serious matter where the UN and every other observer on ground have said this is a humanitarian catastrophy, not just crisis.

Hence you can't trust the Israeli side either.

Unless there is an independent investigation by independent experts then no conclusions can be made.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: Lazy88

The reality is you can’t come to terms with Hamas lies, inflates numbers, counts their fighters as civilians, and Hamas kills civilians in Gaza a pins it on Israel.

There is no doubt there are thousands of people in Gaza who are dead. Reports at this point say over 5,000. Even if it's less makes no difference in terms of who has the responsibility.

Really. There is reports Hamas is lying. Which has the most evidence.

Any physical evidence 500 people killed in the parking lot blast at Al-Ahli al-Arabi Hospital. Verified by what third party actually on the scene?

Damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families in Gaza

As Israeli forces continue to intensify their cataclysmic assault on the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International has documented unlawful Israeli attacks, including indiscriminate attacks, which caused mass civilian casualties and must be investigated as war crimes

reliefweb.int...

Clearly this version of events is different to yours.

According to documentation by Euro-Med Monitor, at least 4,079 Palestinians have been killed, including 1,413 children and 806 women, with approximately 3,420 civilians among the dead. More than 15,000 additional Palestinians have been injured in various ways, with more than half of them being children and women.

Trying to argue that there is no Humanitarian crisis or that the number of civilian deaths in Gaza is somehow small, is just denialism of the realities of war.