The Fall of the American Mayor et alia

I find it disgraceful that the man who was once regarded as America's favorite mayor post 9/11, a successful prosecutor who went against some of the worst of the mob and put them behind bars, a man who stood up for the president he believed in and fought for him vociferously, may now file for bankruptcy and is losing his real estate — his homes. Why did it get to this point? Why is he getting no help?

We're finding out today that his Florida condo is being placed under a lien for owing $550,000 in unpaid taxes. He owes hundreds of thousands of dollars to his attorneys. He has had to put his New York apartment on the market just to stay afloat and promise to pay the bills eventually, contingent on the sale.

Another loyal person from the same circle is Mike Lindell, whose lawyers have already bailed on him and are suing him for millions of dollars in unpaid fees. He claims he is bankrupt and has no money left.

Others have had to hire their own lawyers, fund-raise off social media and get creative.

Why is this happening? Why are these loyal supporters, soldiers one could call them — who have given everything they have, everything they own — why are they left alone to fend for themselves?

Donald Trump just announced his campaign has raised more than $45 million in three months. And he's a billionaire himself, he's on the Forbes list for 2023 at $2.6 billion dollars. Billion! Why can't this billionaire spare a few million each to help his most loyal friends and supporters; why can't he bail them out so that they can focus all their funds on defense?

I don't understand, Trump's circle always talks about loyalty, but all we're seeing is each man, or woman, for themselves. Everyone on their own. What is a few million dollars to a billionaire when it could help them enormously and allow them more time to continue standing up for him and defending him?

Where is the loyalty? Where is the assistance? Isn't it in his best interests that these people continue fighting for him, not go bankrupt and disappear? And if these are all wrongful charges they are fighting against, as some may imply, then would it not be even more beneficial to fight against them, to finance this fight, and then file lawsuits to recover the money after they're won?

It just seems like everyone gave up, everyone is on their own, and the person they all gave their everything for doesn't even want to throw them a bone in return.

Is that what we call loyalty?

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I wanted to finish off with something a bit less serious but related. Here is what I would expect someone to do for their closets friends and allies. And this man is not a billionaire, he's a half of one, and his friends are not in any trouble for standing up for him.

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Thanks for reading, hope you all have a good day!

a reply to: Mahogany

Anyone that has read anything about Trump knows one thing about him, he is shrewd.
He is a businessman to the core, and once he doesn’t need you, he doesn’t.

He has screwed so many people out of pay (according to stories by them) contractors, workers etc.
I worked with some very wealthy people.. I’m not talking about people making 200K, I’m talking people
That could buy a private island type of money. I had one of those guys try to sell me (a very lowly poor office worker at the time) a soda he got from free at a meeting for .25 cents… Yes he got a free soda and was trying to sell it, not a joke either. What is 25 cents to a super wealthy person? It’s a game. And NO I didn’t buy the soda and I gave him the best side eyes I could muster. What a jerk!

Sort of a mash of topics but all still about Trump bad.
Ok, I'll bite.

The answer to all of your questions is this:

"Weaponized Intelligence Agencies".
Weaponized Federal Agencies

originally posted by: burntheships
Sort of a mash of topics but all still about Trump bad.

"Weaponized Intelligence Agencies".
Weaponized Federal Agencies

Yep, a mishmash... 'et alia' in the title means 'and others'.

How does this purported weaponizing of intel agencies prevent Trump from aiding his friends and allies? How does it make loyalty vanish?

a reply to: Mahogany

You asked in the first paragraph of your thread;
"How did it get to this point"?

The answer is as follows.

In order to enforce our laws, we have given terrifying powers to such agencies as the FBI, the IRS, and the CIA, among others. The misuse of these powers to affect political outcomes would be fatal to freedom and it is the hallmark of any dictatorship. This, our Constitution was written to prevent – whoever is in power.

In recent years, we have watched the IRS target individuals because of their political beliefs. We have seen a glaring double standard in the enforcement of our laws by our Justice Department based on the political beliefs of their targets. We've seen their powers used to intimidate citizens into silence, whether the Tea Party or parents questioning their school boards. Most alarmingly, we have seen the use of the FBI and our Intelligence agencies to suppress political viewpoints disagreeable to those in power or to manufacture or propagate one of the greatest scandals in American history: the Russian collusion hoax. When a government can interfere with the elections that govern it, and when agencies can act independently of the outcome of those elections, Democracy will die.

mcclintock.house.gov...

Anyone can be taken apart by continued persecution
and the unjust application of laws.

One who cares about true justice wouldn't be cheering
on weaponized law enforcement and court systems. Third
world countries are not even a fair comparison any longer,
I think the U.S. has outdone it all as of now.

It might all seem laughable to some maybe even you
think it is funny, but eventually this abuse of power
will lead to tyranny on a level not even liberals will
be laughing at.

That said, I am fairly confident you know exactly
what is going on and how we got to this point.

a reply to: Mahogany

If you haven't already done so, I would recommend reading the book "Everything Trump Touches Dies" by the Republican strategist Rick Wilson. The title says it all. Basically, Trump is a taker, not a maker. A lot of his followers are blind to that fact because Trump is an accomplished bulls!t artist. He uses up all the people around him, if they let him.

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: Mahogany

If you haven't already done so, I would recommend reading the book "Everything Trump Touches Dies" by the Republican strategist Rick Wilson. The title says it all. Basically, Trump is a taker, not a maker. A lot of his followers are blind to that fact because Trump is an accomplished bulls!t artist. He uses up all the people around him, if they let him.

A book on a politician that’s not a bulls!t artist that would be a hens tooth,

originally posted by: Robbo2006

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: Mahogany

If you haven't already done so, I would recommend reading the book "Everything Trump Touches Dies" by the Republican strategist Rick Wilson. The title says it all. Basically, Trump is a taker, not a maker. A lot of his followers are blind to that fact because Trump is an accomplished bulls!t artist. He uses up all the people around him, if they let him.

A book on a politician that’s not a bulls!t artist that would be a hens tooth,

That's a reference you don't see much anymore. I had to think for a minute...

a reply to: Mahogany

So, you forgot the "why" in your argument.

Why is Guilliani going broke? Why is he being targeted for prosecution?


We know why, you used to know why but something changed.

Regardless, glad to see that you prefer Clooney. Shows how vapid your opinions are on people.

“One [time] she came back giddy as a schoolgirl with an explosion of news, with all the build up and excitement in her voice you’d think she was the next crown princess,” Giuffre wrote of Maxwell in her book, which was unsealed by a New York judge last week.

“But she had given George Clooney a b–w j-b in the bathroom at some random event. … She never let that one down.”

a reply to: burntheships

Again, you missed what I asked you. You didn't even attempt to answer the very, very clear and simple question I asked.

How does any of that take away loyalty?

Even if the government agencies are going after these people in some conspiracy, shouldn't they stick together? There is no loyalty between any of them. No loyalty or support from Trump... nothing, nada, zilch.

So, I'll ask one more time, and please, if you're going to reply, answer my question, not some question you pose for yourself and then answer that.

Where is the LOYALTY? Why is there no loyalty in the Trump circle of people?

Why did it come to this point that these people are declaring bankruptcies when there is plenty of money to help them out?

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Edit to add:

You asked in the first paragraph of your thread; "How did it get to this point"?

I sure did ask that. And the context for that question is in the remainder of the OP.

I appreciate your attempt to cherrypick one line and then build your own context around it, and then answer an unrelated question built around the context you created, and then pretend that you answered the question I asked you, with the question you answered for yourself.

It still doesn't answer my question on loyalty, and the topic of this thread.

Thanks for reading, in any case.

Bankruptcy is a simple restructuring mechanism. Corporations thriving today have filed multiple times in the past. Just because someone is filing bankruptcy has no bearing on their capacity to continue operations as well as defend themselves. Besides you really do not know whether they are receiving financial assistance through supporters or friends.

The IRS oft operates as a DNC weapon, so some things got to stay discreet.