Putin says successful test carried out of new nuclear-powered strategic missile

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia has successfully carried out a test of a new generation of nuclear-powered cruise missile.

State news agency RIA Novosti quoted Putin as saying the “last successful test of the Burevestnik, a global-range cruise missile with a nuclear installation, a nuclear propulsion system, has been conducted.”

Ok, so it's a global range nuclear weapon, it can reach anywhere, but this is particularly concerning to the people in Europe, and especially the United Kingdom. Russian leaders have been making threats to the UK and have escalated these threats to the level of nuclear war, saying that UK would be turned into a 'Martian Desert.' Also here, and here, and here. Following up on verbal threats with a test of a new nuclear weapon capable of doing that very thing should be concerning to a reasonable person.

Sure, we can all say this is just posturing, it's empty threats, nothing will come of it... etc.

Are you so sure of that? How can any of us be sure? I'm not so sure they're joking, and no one should think that they are.

Generally, a good principle in life is when someone shows you who they are — believe them. And we can all see what Russia is WILLING to do, not just talk about, but put into action. Just today, another 51 civilians have been targeted and killed, becoming a group of tens of thousands of civilians, innocent children among them, who were mercilessly targeted.

Everyone hopes Russia won't escalate and go nuclear, EVERYONE, the entire world hopes for this, because we all live here and share the world... but we can't be naive, the danger is very real and the threats should be taken that way as well. We should all be on guard and hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

A wounded dictator is a dangerous animal.

a reply to: Mahogany

OK so you are President Biden what do you propose to NATO now? This is a clear and present danger to all NATO nations and beyond, right?

a reply to: Mahogany

# him.
Does anyone really think we'll cower down to that little prick?

a reply to: putnam6

They should announce a red line. They like doing that.

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: Mahogany

OK so you are President Biden what do you propose to NATO now? This is a clear and present danger to all NATO nations and beyond, right?

What would I do as president?

1. Support our allies who are in immediate danger, help them reinforce their defensive capabilities. Defensive only. No one wants a bigger war.

2. Support Ukraine for as long as they want support. As long as they want to defend their country, we should help them out. This splits the focus of Russia's potential plans and drains money away from other endeavors. As long as Russia is losing people, weapons and time in Ukraine, it has less capability of attacking elsewhere.

3. Make sure all Americans and all people of the free world understand what is happening in real time, hopefully unifying us against the threats being made. Perhaps any military action by Russia can be avoided if we all stand together before it can happen.

a reply to: putnam6

This is a clear and present danger to all NATO nations and beyond, right?

Question is who believes a word Putin says anymore , liars gonna lie.

He also said grenade fragments were found in the Prigozhin plane victims ... shrapnel from the AA missile more like.

originally posted by: Mahogany
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia has successfully carried out a test of a new generation of nuclear-powered cruise missile.

State news agency RIA Novosti quoted Putin as saying the “last successful test of the Burevestnik, a global-range cruise missile with a nuclear installation, a nuclear propulsion system, has been conducted.”

Ok, so it's a global range nuclear weapon, it can reach anywhere, but this is particularly concerning to the people in Europe, and especially the United Kingdom. Russian leaders have been making threats to the UK and have escalated these threats to the level of nuclear war, saying that UK would be turned into a 'Martian Desert.' Also here, and here, and here. Following up on verbal threats with a test of a new nuclear weapon capable of doing that very thing should be concerning to a reasonable person.

Sure, we can all say this is just posturing, it's empty threats, nothing will come of it... etc.

Are you so sure of that? How can any of us be sure? I'm not so sure they're joking, and no one should think that they are.

Generally, a good principle in life is when someone shows you who they are — believe them. And we can all see what Russia is WILLING to do, not just talk about, but put into action. Just today, another 51 civilians have been targeted and killed, becoming a group of tens of thousands of civilians, innocent children among them, who were mercilessly targeted.

Everyone hopes Russia won't escalate and go nuclear, EVERYONE, the entire world hopes for this, because we all live here and share the world... but we can't be naive, the danger is very real and the threats should be taken that way as well. We should all be on guard and hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

A wounded dictator is a dangerous animal.

This is a nuclear powered cruise missile. Seems to be similar to the old Project Pluto that the US worked on back in the 60s:

en.wikipedia.org...

As such, it is not a first strike weapon. It wouldn't travel as fast as a simple ICBM or the Avangard:

en.wikipedia.org...(hypersonic_glide_vehicle)

It seems to be in the same category as their nuclear powered torpedo:

en.wikipedia.org...

Both the nuclear cruise missile and the nuclear torpedo are essentially revenge weapons. They would only be of use if Russia was already destroyed by a nuclear strike from some other power, and they would be intended to cause mass civilian casualties.

From that standpoint, they actually are a sign of weakness, since they presume that Russia couldn't win a nuclear war with the US or other major power.

Curtis Lemay would scare that ruskie out of his long johns, but hes to busy rolling in his grave seeing the current state of the USAF.

I dont believe they`d ever use it, I believe we (humans) were told not to once upon a time. But then theres still dial to yield from orbit, or so the legend goes.

a reply to: Mahogany

I'm curious how this nuke powered nuke poses a greater threat to Europe and the UK than a nuke powered submarine armed with nukes or a non nuke powered but nuke armed aircraft or other non nuke powered nuke missiles or even a suitcase size nuke smuggle in a non nuke fashion?

Is it the nuke that worries you or the nuke propulsion that is powering the nuke missile to nuke its target?

a reply to: 1947boomer

since they presume that Russia couldn't win a nuclear war with the US or other major power.

will anyone win if a war goes nuclear?
maybe the cockroaches

a reply to: Mahogany

Putin will be targeted at all times if Russia were to launch an ICBM at the UK the favor is apt to be returned in kind.

Article 5 would be triggered and NATO would launch an all-out attack on what remains of the Russian forces.

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: Mahogany

OK so you are President Biden what do you propose to NATO now? This is a clear and present danger to all NATO nations and beyond, right?

What would I do as president?

1. Support our allies who are in immediate danger, help them reinforce their defensive capabilities. Defensive only. No one wants a bigger war.

2. Support Ukraine for as long as they want support. As long as they want to defend their country, we should help them out. This splits the focus of Russia's potential plans and drains money away from other endeavors. As long as Russia is losing people, weapons and time in Ukraine, it has less capability of attacking elsewhere.

3. Make sure all Americans and all people of the free world understand what is happening in real time, hopefully unifying us against the threats being made. Perhaps any military action by Russia can be avoided if we all stand together before it can happen.

Im with you on #1 and #3 which we mostly do without this specific threat anyway

but respectfully I'm kind of done supporting Ukraine financially, especially to the degree the US currently is. Beyond NATO troops on the ground, which isn't going to happen

So this goes on till Russia tires of the war. See the map below, how long and how many billions do we spend till the PINK STAIN IS REMOVED? At the current pace, it will be decades. No matter if we stand together or separately

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: Mahogany

OK so you are President Biden what do you propose to NATO now? This is a clear and present danger to all NATO nations and beyond, right?

What would I do as president?

1. Support our allies who are in immediate danger, help them reinforce their defensive capabilities. Defensive only. No one wants a bigger war.

2. Support Ukraine for as long as they want support. As long as they want to defend their country, we should help them out. This splits the focus of Russia's potential plans and drains money away from other endeavors. As long as Russia is losing people, weapons and time in Ukraine, it has less capability of attacking elsewhere.

3. Make sure all Americans and all people of the free world understand what is happening in real time, hopefully unifying us against the threats being made. Perhaps any military action by Russia can be avoided if we all stand together before it can happen.

Oh yea!? Wanna know what I would do!?

1. Stop supporting Ukraine immediately since the war will end as soon as we stop forcing them to fight back. They’re ready to surrender and they stole Crimea in the first place back in the 90s.

2. I would call a press conference and I would finger all the legislators and myself for relying on the money laundering and corruption happening in Ukraine out of shame and duty to my country and I would admit that with NOBODY supporting where this country is going, THEY FREAK OUT ENTIRELY if anyone mentions stopping the billions flowing to Ukraine because the only money they can expect to put a candidate in the presidential run and the money they need to pull off another fake victory is all the money being laundered in the Ukraine so no corruption money equals no more democrat rule.

3. I would finally give the people what they want. No more billions to countries just cuz they ask, no more illegal immigration, no more trillions in total aid which is literally AN UNGODLY HUGE amount of money that we make every year and for some reason, just send it away so it doesn’t even benefit our economy, it just disappears forever and Americans are told we can’t afford this and can’t do that!

4. And finally I would choose no blindfold as it would be the dignified way to go amongst all my legislators and judges and media personalities and bought evil doctors and you name it, and that would be all obviously and I would request to be buried in a shallow grave face down like I deserve!

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: Mahogany

I'm curious how this nuke powered nuke poses a greater threat to Europe and the UK than a nuke powered submarine armed with nukes or a non nuke powered but nuke armed aircraft or other non nuke powered nuke missiles or even a suitcase size nuke smuggle in a non nuke fashion?

Is it the nuke that worries you or the nuke propulsion that is powering the nuke missile to nuke its target?

It doesn't but it sounds threatening, pretty sure America and NATO could target much of Russia with conventionally powered cruise missiles not to mention what other capabilities we currently have

a reply to: Mahogany

Putin says successful test carried out of new nuclear-powered strategic missile

old farty also claimed their hypersonic missiles, SU 57, T-14, and BMPT terminator were the sh@@, look how those turned out.

now the broke dick MF'er's are trading oil and old antiqued technology with third world countries for weapons and ammunition, and fielding 70 armor.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: Mahogany

Putin says successful test carried out of new nuclear-powered strategic missile

old farty also claimed their hypersonic missiles, SU 57, T-14, and BMPT terminator were the sh@@, look how those turned out.

now the broke dick MF'er's are trading oil and old antiqued technology with third world countries for weapons and ammunition, and fielding 70 armorer.

OK, so why is the Ukrainian war forecast cloudy with a chance of incoming cruise missiles for the next few years?

www.reuters.com...

Russia can fight in Ukraine for two more years at current intensity, Lithuania says
By Andrius Sytas
March 9, 202312:25 PM ESTUpdated 7 months ago



VILNIUS, March 9 (Reuters) - The chief of Lithuania's military intelligence said Russia has enough resources to continue the war in Ukraine for two more years at the current intensity.

Moscow says it launched its "special military operation" in Ukraine a year ago to combat a security threat. Kyiv and the West call it an unprovoked war to subdue an independent state.

"The resources which Russia has at the moment would be enough to continue the war at the present intensity for two years", Lithuania's intelligence chief Elegijus Paulavicius told reporters.

"How long Russia is be able to wage the war will also depend on the support for Russia's military from states such as Iran and North Korea", he added.

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: Mahogany

I'm curious how this nuke powered nuke poses a greater threat to Europe and the UK than a nuke powered submarine armed with nukes or a non nuke powered but nuke armed aircraft or other non nuke powered nuke missiles or even a suitcase size nuke smuggle in a non nuke fashion?

Is it the nuke that worries you or the nuke propulsion that is powering the nuke missile to nuke its target?

It's in the OP, the main link up top.

“It is a low-flying stealth missile carrying a nuclear warhead, with almost unlimited range, unpredictable trajectory and ability to bypass interception boundaries,” Putin said then.

It's nuclear powered AND nuclear armed, with advanced evasion capabilities. Newest generation of nuclear weapons.

What makes this dangerous is that it is accompanied by threats of nuclear war and nuclear destruction. Developing new weapons while making threats is what the point of this thread is.

Thanks for reading.

a reply to: Mahogany

It’s still a subsonic cruise missile. It can turn to evade defenses, but subsonic means the interception is still relatively easy. The advantage to nuclear power is that it has effectively unlimited power for countermeasures.

a reply to: Mahogany

This is sable rattling IMO. Russia knows that the UK has nuclear powered SSBN boats in reserve. To actually attack the UK would invite nuclear ballistic reprisal. From all of NATO.