Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Planning to Announce Independent Run

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: putnam6


To your point though, I'm pretty sure he's not fond of the 2A, so hard pass from me even though he does have redeeming qualities admittedly.

He's pro 2A.
His real problem is he's pro-Isreal...

originally posted by: TheValeyard
And that reply was unnecessary,
and so is this one probably. LOL.

a reply to: JinMI

Good thing you don't get to decide what I post then eh?



Regardless, my point was that there is a history of 3rd party candidates that were simply not up to snuff on what was even going on contemporary to their running.

RFK may be the most "with it" candidate in modern history to run 3rd party.

Yet there's going to be people who will cheerlead 3rd party until they find something they dislike, as was evidenced on the previous page.


The fact is that there is little infrastructure, little funding and even smaller support for 3rd party candidates and campaigns.

Long before we see an actual contender, those things will need addressed. More pragmatic folks have already realized this when deciding how they will be voting.

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: putnam6


To your point though, I'm pretty sure he's not fond of the 2A, so hard pass from me even though he does have redeeming qualities admittedly.

He's pro 2A.
His real problem is he's pro-Isreal...

You may be right. Everything coming from the past year has this quote:

“My position on gun control is that I’m not going to take away anybody’s guns. I’m a constitutional maximalist and the issue has been settled by the Supreme Court…I understand personally the heartbreak of gun violence…we have to stop school shootings…if it comes down to protecting schools like we protect airlines, we’ll do that. We also have to look at the role of psychiatric drugs…prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost no events like this. When I’m President we will thoroughly investigate and address the link between these drugs and school shootings.”

originally posted by: TheValeyard
Genuine question: are the younger demographics really watching establishment news channels anymore, or is it just snippets from TikTok?
I'm 33, and I don't think me or any of my friends do. I mean, I kinda just go online and read articles from multiple sights to cross reference, but I rarely watch an actual news broadcast. If I want US News I'll actually go to BBC or Al Jazeera, or an Indian outlet, like somewhere that isn't even in the US.

I'm kinda burnt out on news though.
When I was working in news as a Staff Writer, we literally got memos from our parent company sometimes, and during the 2016 election, corporate literally told us the company was taking an official anti-Trump stance, and so we were not to publish anything that might make him look good. Even thinking he was an idiot narcissist my reaction was "WTF, this is so anti-journalism. How is this allowed?"
That company owns papers all over the midwest and is based out of Traverse City, but I won't bother naming them.
I tried to post about it on here years ago and got dogpiled and people telling me I was lying and wasn't even a journalist, and still kinda bitter. LOL

But it totally is, and they do it on both sides of the aisle, and it's not just politics either. Hell, if you have an editor or a publisher who has a bias and is an authoritarian, then you're screwed. My editor tried saying there was a "violent dog epidemic" in my city, and I talked to the police chief about it and he said my editor had misrepresented what he'd said, that he'd basically just told him "Oh, we've had some reports of dog bites and have dealt with that problem before" and he'd just went Spin City on it, well, he'd had me coauthor half the article, then twisted it all around and butchered it, and there was nothing I could do about it.

Some elderly couple's 14 year old basset hound got put down over it, because the dog got startled by a mailman while sleeping on the deck, and she kinda nipped at her wrist, but didn't even draw blood. So in the interest of journalism, I showed up at the couple's home unannounced and met both their dogs before they had a chance to put them away. Sweet dogs. That was one of the final stories I covered. It's kind of a sh^t show.
Journalism is increasingly bought and paid for. If it isn't mandates coming down from the owners, it's crazy sensationalism and stoking division because "incendiary" means ratings, which means "we can get more for ads".

Definitely support small unaffiliated news outlets while you can. They're the last bastion of objectivity, and at this rate, I'm afraid they won't last much longer.


a reply to: putnam6

LOL I didn't run you off, did I?

Hell, my first few posts got trashed so much that I don't think I posted again for another year. I try to not get caught up in the back-and-forth BS. Im here to learn and explore other views, don't need the arguing, I'm here more than I should be anyway.

As for the news? But yes independent sources take searching and unless you are interested in searching and vetting, what pops first is what gets read.

www.allsides.com...

www.allsides.com...

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: putnam6


To your point though, I'm pretty sure he's not fond of the 2A, so hard pass from me even though he does have redeeming qualities admittedly.

He's pro 2A.
His real problem is he's pro-Isreal...

Our U.S. President being Pro-Israel (or Anti-Israel) doesn't affect our day-to-day life does it?

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: putnam6


To your point though, I'm pretty sure he's not fond of the 2A, so hard pass from me even though he does have redeeming qualities admittedly.

He's pro 2A.
His real problem is he's pro-Isreal...

use your favorite search engine

RFKjr Anti Semitism...

A potential viable indeed candidate; I'd vote for him for that reason alone.

If he doesn't run independent; I guess I'll be voting for Trump if he says out of prison ... or if he is able to run from inside prison, I guess.

EARLY VOTING kicks off in many states, just ONE YEAR FROM NOW.

Names on the Presidential Ballot

Harris (D)

Trump (R)

Kennedy (I)

originally posted by: carewemust
EARLY VOTING kicks off in many states, just ONE YEAR FROM NOW.

Names on the Presidential Ballot

Harris (D)

Trump (R)

Kennedy (I)

No way mate.

Harris is not on the ticket . Not unless the Dems know they stand no chance.

All votes for Kennedy will be forwarded to Biden in the coming election by the voting machines.

Then he's announcing being defeated. DNC out of their minds to "respectfully" bump Biden out, let "democracy" set in motion. It's all this game to ride it as hard as it takes, to prevent a typical there is no actual (shoe in) incumbent POTUS elect already in place. (Meaning: There would have already been the typical schedule of everything that goes into a raw campaign).

If RFK Jr. wasnt a thing, they would have already had debates. The Biden's would have got to F off, but here came RFK Jr... A man of the people with maximum familiarity / name power showed up. With massive science behind him, as every talking point.

We've already done all this. RFK Jr. is the Ron Paul of 2008, now.

LOOK, "as soon as" RFK Jr. is truly out of the DNC running, it'll become a typical DNC new voting year blah blah. Biden will F off to the nursing home whatever.

RFK Jr.? He was the only thing keeping them honest. If he ducks out into "independent" territory, its just a loss. First of all, not even the Libertarians have 'on the ballot exceptionalism' (state by state).

If you go "independent" you're throwing in the towel. The most tragic string of words I can even produce.

If he is willing to resolve the invasion on our southern border as a very high priority, he will have my vote.

So far he does seem to recognize the problem and it's implications and horrors. If he comes out as strongly on the border as any of the GOP, he's my man.

Love it... the only reasonable candidate to date. I'm affraid the tyrranical Democrats will not let him win, but it's important he gives it a go. The US nor the world deserves a second term under the tyranny of Obama's straw team.

He doesn't impress me.
That being said, I do think he needs secret service protection.
But he won't get it, I"m sure.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
He doesn't impress me.
That being said, I do think he needs secret service protection.
But he won't get it, I"m sure.

As opposed to, Biden? or Trump? Who else have we got?

Are you seriously looking forward to a second term with Biden/Harris?

Hell, our business is still struggling from COVID shutdowns etc.

The economy doesn't need the incompetence of the Biden administration, nor does it need the potential chaos from Trump being re-elected. We saw how far the DNC and the left pushed the chaos last time, it will likely be worse next time.

While there are some areas I disagree with him on, he seems reasonable. His ideas are reasonable and seem pretty common sense. He also doesn’t seem hyperbolic, unreasonable, or unwilling to govern from the perspective of the people.

I spent some time watching his interviews and commentary on YouTube the other day. He is measured, realistic, and isn’t engaging in the attack dog politics we are all so tired of - and have been divided by.

I will be voting for RFKJr.

It will be my first vote cast in a presidential election since 2004.

Let the independents/moderates have their day!

a reply to: Daughter2

There is a sizable slice of old school GOP that very well may go with RFK.

I started looking into his position on the border yesterday. He went there. He was absolutenly appalled and said so. He sees it the way it needs to be seen. I'm going to watch how his visit effects his platform.

As a single issue voter being a native to the American SW, the invasion at the border, my homeland has been destroyed. Pardon me, but that is my only issue that matters that much to me.

I also like his vax position.

I could easily be persuaded to vote for him.

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: putnam6


To your point though, I'm pretty sure he's not fond of the 2A, so hard pass from me even though he does have redeeming qualities admittedly.

His real problem is he's pro-Isreal...

How is that a problem?

The next president will be the one that gets the most corporate campaign money.

Did the GOP shoot itself in the foot because of the overturn of roe v wade? Time will tell....

originally posted by: putnam6
As opposed to, Biden? or Trump? Who else have we got?

Libertarian.

Are you seriously looking forward to a second term with Biden/Harris?

I'm not voting for Biden.