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I'd say that your info is pretty good, universal energy can be tapped into and manipulated, send good vibes get good vibesa reply to: BeTheGoddess

a reply to: hjesterium

My friend, evil, dark forces are as afraid of you as you are of them. You cannot use your magic for your interests, and you cannot pretend that your interests are the interests of others. Tell me, what does a legion of demons gain by possessing all of humanity, and what does God gain by possessing it?

If possessing and dominating is all that angels, humans and demons know how to do, how long do you think they would last after their victory? Nothing, they would last nothing.

Everyone needs a demon to convince himself that he is not one.

a reply to: BeTheGoddess

You did well! I think it'd be a good idea for people to familiarize themselves with how their ancestors interacted with spirits, instead of saging their house and not knowing how to perform it properly, or buying a dreamcatcher and not knowing how to use it properly. These are Native American traditions and some of them might view it as cultural appropriation.

As for chakra and karma, suppose I were to stub my toe and holler out in anger, then would karma respond to what I put out? But aren't there times where it's better to give way to anger, i.e. be angry and "sin" not?

Marcus Aurelius offers this counsel: "The angry man is more like a victim of wrongdoing, provoked by pain to anger."

originally posted by: Direne
a reply to: hjesterium

My friend, evil, dark forces are as afraid of you as you are of them.

We are not friends. I am wary of you.

I heard the same exact thing from an user's spirit, of the hooded shadow type. It showed up during the new moon (a period feared by Druids).

Testimony: "in one of my dreams he took me to the world where the shadow people are from, and it became clear to me that we are just as strange and terrifying to most of them as they are to us, and only a handful of them are the predatory things most people that have experienced shadow people seem to think they all are."

But then the spirit communicated a misleading explanation (by means of forcible telepathic suggestion, might I add): “Now, you see. Darkness and light are one in the same.” After that, the user embraced the belief that "good and evil are just human constructs, and these things can’t exist without being defined by the other". (the same doctrine I highlighted in my document on the previous page)

originally posted by: Direne
You cannot use your magic for your interests, and you cannot pretend that your interests are the interests of others.

This is the most absurd statement I've ever read. Politicians and journalists do both all the time, their "magic" being hypnotic catchphrases.

originally posted by: Direne
Tell me, what does a legion of demons gain by possessing all of humanity, and what does God gain by possessing it?

The darker spirits/daemonic beings gain a prolongation of their sentence, the spirits of the deceased delay their reincarnation as human beings. They gain Time, they are living on borrowed time. If their world (the so-called astral) is dissolved, then it's all over for them.

originally posted by: Direne
If possessing and dominating is all that angels, humans and demons know how to do, how long do you think they would last after their victory?

Without humanity, the darker entities wouldn’t have a line that state they are superior beings, nor would the good spirits. Evidently, neither side has been able to overcome the other without the human factor.

originally posted by: Direne
Everyone needs a demon to convince himself that he is not one.

Not everyone, and not always for that stated purpose. For instance, mystics and saints, such as Martin Buber, are freed from hatred, they don't see demons in anyone.

Also, I'd choose your next words carefully. Your claim is often used to justify anti-Semitism:

"he strives to shake it off and to localise it in his fellow-creatures, and so for a moment to dream himself free of it." (Weininger)
"every individual should take care of himself and his conscience, by keeping before himself such a definition or picture of a Jew." (Luther)

a reply to: hjesterium

As for chakra and karma, suppose I were to stub my toe and holler out in anger, then would karma respond to what I put out? But aren't there times where it's better to give way to anger, i.e. be angry and "sin" not?

I have been thinking how to word this without being self-righteous.

Any negative emotion will attract more negative energy, extrinsic of esoteric stuff mainstream psychologists will tell you this. Being angry solves nothing, venting may be cathardic for the venter, but more often than not its just going to alienate people.

Lets go with your toe analogy. Are you angry because you stubbed your toe?, or are you projecting self loathing because you didnt turn on the light to go to the bathroom at 2am?. The broken floorboard you didnt fix?. Anger is one of the negative emotions we need to cast aside.

I have a pretty f'd up life, but to hold onto the hate for those that wronged me, na, move beyond hate, jealousy, et al. Isnt the whole point of the journey to get to a higher place?.

You do know that saging has been practiced by many cultures not just native Americans, as well as dream catchers many different cultures use the same esoteric tools, they just call them something different, I'm of Scandinavian descent, my Norse ancestors used sage as well so how is that appropriation? I believe the majority of people who are practitioners of the esoteric arts are very familiar with they're ancestors and the connection they hold, its actually a very common practice to commune with and beseech our ancestors for knowledge or to add they're power to our workings and spells. And to answer your questions about stubbing your toe and crying out in anger, I imagine you would cry out in pain, if anger is your first reaction then you are obviuosly not angry about actually stubbing your toe, there is some kind of emotional projection going on, maybe your angry for not turning on the light? Or not moving something out of the way...you see anger really is a useless emotion it serves no purpose other than selfish purpose, karma is about what kind of energy you put out in tye universe, if you live in a negative state of mind then you will attract negative energy, if you strive to live in a positive state of mind then you will draw in positive energy. Although I do think you meant to be condescending I still wish you well in your lifes adventure! a reply to: hjesterium

originally posted by: CyNiC970
You do know that saging has been practiced by many cultures not just native Americans, as well as dream catchers many different cultures use the same esoteric tools, they just call them something different, I'm of Scandinavian descent, my Norse ancestors used sage as well so how is that appropriation?

Thanks for the correction, I was ill-informed about saging being practiced by other cultures. I heard the Japanese have something similar called a Baku talisman.

Also, bear in mind that I wasn't accusing anyone of appropriating these practices, I said that I had observed some Native American users who felt that way about it.

Btw what's your definition for "esoteric"? That isn't a word I use lightly. Have you heard of Western Esotericism in Scandinavia? It's the most comprehensive book on the subject I know of.

originally posted by: CyNiC970
Although I do think you meant to be condescending I still wish you well in your lifes adventure!

I'm sorry if I came off that way, I didn't mean to be that way towards you specifically. I was mostly irritated by Direne's posts.

I'm also sorry for being a know-it-all. The worst part about being a high school dropout/recluse is the constant boredom that sets in and the huge amount of free time you have to use up by reading/studying, to avoid losing your mind. Honoré de Balzac was the same way: "he devoured books of every kind, feeding indiscriminately on religious works, history and literature, philosophy and physics." Only difference is that I didn't read indiscriminately.

I think society produces too many mediocre intellectuals nowadays. Intellectualism is a disease of the brain. I actually resent the sense of knowing more than others, I just need to get these things off my chest. Thus, I've been desperately looking for someone to impart my knowledge to (ideally, someone with a scientific and philosophical background), so that I may finally retire. That's why my posts are so thorough, in the hopes of getting their attention on here.

originally posted by: BeTheGoddess
Being angry solves nothing, venting may be cathartic for the venter, but more often than not its just going to alienate people.

But couldn't the same thing be said about writing poetry or composing music? It's cathartic for the artist, except their works don't alienate their audience (though their works can have a detrimental effect).

I once read a story where two guys were in a bar, one of them was alcoholic, the other was a teetotaler. His friend wanted to use the power of example to get his friend off of that stuff for good. So he often got drunk with him in his company. Then one night, in a moment of lucidity and anger, he threw his glass on the floor, asked his friend why they kept drinking that stuff and pointed out that it tasted bad and that he had lost the taste for it, and then he suggested that his friend should do the same with his glass.

The act of throwing the glass made such an impression on his friend that he actually went through with it. Without that passionate display, his advice wouldn't have reached his friend.

originally posted by: BeTheGoddess
Lets go with your toe analogy. Are you angry because you stubbed your toe?, or are you projecting self loathing because you didnt turn on the light to go to the bathroom at 2am?. The broken floorboard you didnt fix?

Wow, that's a really good point! I tend to spill drinks, I get angry about having to clean up the mess, then I chastise myself for neglecting to do stuff like that.

originally posted by: BeTheGoddess
I have a pretty f'd up life, but to hold onto the hate for those that wronged me, na, move beyond hate, jealousy, et al. Isnt the whole point of the journey to get to a higher place?

Exactly!

Here's a relevant story which seems too good to be true: circleofa.org...

“I had to decide right then whether to let myself hate the soldiers who had done this. It was an easy decision, really. I was a lawyer. In my practice I had seen too often what hate could do to people’s minds and bodies. Hate had just killed the six people who mattered most to me in the world. I decided then that I would spend the rest of my life, whether it was a few days or many years, loving every person I came in contact with.”

Healing the sick, raising the dead and moving mountains Jesus would join your group.

Hey, when did esoteric.org go down?. I was going to link some texts...

And archive.org?...

I have been a hermit for a while.

originally posted by: BeTheGoddess
Hey, when did esoteric.org go down?. I was going to link some texts...

And archive.org?...

archive.org works for me, but there's a special technique to post the links on ats, they have to be in this format with the second http removed or the link won't work on ATS:

web.archive.org...

“Where are you from?” asked Mukhortov.

“The Red Star of the Constellation of Libra is our home.”

I have no idea if those folks from the Red Star of the Constellation of Libra are angels or demons or just hyper-intelligent entities afraid of our thought bacteria. I'm not even sure who to believe anymore. If they have really advanced technology, it may seem like magic(k?) to us, there was some famous quote about that.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

That story seems to be the only one in that list which wasn't entirely made up.

“Thought bacteria.” This actually makes a lot of sense. Society would be quickly transformed into hell if it were overrun by criminals. Just one errant or confused thought is enough to throw it off-course, if animals walking in circles (more specifically: ant death spirals) are any indication. It's impossible to maintain a paradise when everybody has been indiscriminately deposited into the same place.

Furthermore, among scientists, it was once expressed that just as our planet is a tiny blue dot in the cosmos, man was nothing but planetary bacteria (or in mystical terms: a mere drop in the ocean), which was originally a principle developed from the Copernican revolution. news.uchicago.edu...

Regarding ETs:

The Copernicans speculated that the other worlds were inhabited. In Somnium (a proto sci-fi novel), Kepler conjectured that the Moon was similar to Earth, like another world, and there's a segment where a daemonic being transports the protagonist to the Moon.

In oppressive times, it's common for people suffering from hauntings to present their experiences as a work of fiction or to wrap it up in prose, to make it more believable and avoid drawing unwanted attention. The poets have been guilty of exaggeration since Homer's days.

The Copernicans were anticipated by Cusano (Nicholas of Cusa), who granted that "it may be conjectured that in the area of the sun there exist solar beings, bright and enlightened denizens, and by nature more spiritual than such as may inhabit the moon – who are possibly lunatics – whilst those on earth are more gross and material."

In pagan antiquity, the Greek sages believed evil/daemonic beings were confined to the earth and concentrated in its upper atmosphere, that their influence only stretched up to the earth's moon, but the space beyond the moon were freed from evil phenomena (disharmony).
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There are good grounds for the belief that lunacy was caused by the moon, or at least occurred during certain phases of the moon. Modern science denies this, but grants that before artificial lights became prevalent, the light of the full moon may have deprived people of sleep.

www.scientificamerican.com... - abcnews.go.com...

[The lunar influence theory dates at least to the first century A.D., when the Roman scholar Pliny the Elder wrote that his observations suggested "the moon produces drowsiness and stupor in those who sleep outside beneath her beams."]

I think the proof for this can be discovered in somnambulism.

I am a practitioner of ritual...Urban shamanism...

Some of my rituals are composed by myself and some were passed down by indigenous people.

I can boil water with one of my rituals.

Sweet sounds interesting! Urban shamanism sounds awesome, what does that entail for you....is it.mostly shamanism using hallucinagins? Correct me if I'm off track, maybe urban gardening using plants as medisince grown in an urban environment?a reply to: olaru12

originally posted by: CyNiC970
Sweet sounds interesting! Urban shamanism sounds awesome, what does that entail for you....is it.mostly shamanism using hallucinagins? Correct me if I'm off track, maybe urban gardening using plants as medisince grown in an urban environment?a reply to: olaru12

That's part of it; also gathering the sacraments in the desert and woodlands, sweat lodge purification, fasting, chanting, healing rituals, etc.

"Urban Shaman" was the biz. name of my first mfg. wholesale/retail, my first Gallery LLC.

Not Urban anymore, living in a very small mainly farming community in the high desert Rockies.

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