The Donald, Ducks

Yesterday was the second Republican debate and was missing one major candidate, Donald Trump.

Trump excused himself from the debate stage claiming that for one, he did not need to debate doing to his large lead in Republican polls and secondly because he was going to Detroit to meet with and talk with auto workers in the ongoing strike.

Chris Christie of course had a few choice words about the former presidents absence.

“Donald, I know you’re watching, you can’t help yourself,” Mr. Christie said. “You’re not here tonight, not because of polls, and not because of your indictments. You’re not here tonight because you’re afraid of being on the stage and defending your record. You’re ducking these things, and let me tell you what’s going to happen. You keep doing that, and no one up here is going to call you Donald Trump anymore. We’re going to call you Donald Duck.”

That was to be expected. However, quickly after Christie’s statement, DeSantis also chastised the former president saying

“Where’s Joe Biden?” Mr. DeSantis said. “He’s completely missing in action from leadership. And you know who else is missing in action? Donald Trump is missing in action. He should be on this stage tonight. He owes it to you to defend his record, where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt, that set the stage for the inflation that we have.”

The comparison to Biden is a pretty strong jab at the former president but pointing out the huge deficet incured during his time in office which lead to todays inflation is a spear to the heart of Ttumps legacy of economic success.

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When it comes to his highly touted visit to Detroit to address the on going strike of autoworkers, he also ducked addressing striking autoworkers, instead choosing to find a non-union auto parts manufacturer to visit

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According to this source, the autoparts company is not a good place to work . Comments by current and former workers indicate across the board dissatisfaction with the companies working standards.

“Crabs in a bucket mentality,” wrote someone who identified themselves as a former production worker, in May, in a three-star review (out of five). “Nothing about this job is good longevity wise and McDonald’s pays more.”

“Worse [sic] place to work,” wrote a respondent identifying as a current technician in March, in a two-star sendup. Across 35 total reviews, Drake got its lowest marks for “management”: 2.8 stars out of five.

“Beware,” wrote one person identifying as a current employee in a one-star January 2023 review. “Management is clueless. Shop is completely dirty. The truly good people leave after a short time as there is no culture.”

“DON’T WORK HERE,” warned one self-identifying former employee in December 2022. “Dead end,” wrote another.

So rather than going to Detroit to address striking auto workers, he chose instead to talk about the strike to non union workers. He might have spoken to them about the poor working conditions where they worked but of course he didn’t, ducking once again.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Yesterday was the second Republican debate and was missing one major candidate, Donald Trump.

He was maybe busy hunting "Natzi".

I tried to watch the debates, but it was like watching the worst of Fox News where everybody just starts screaming over the top of each other.

If politicians can't conduct themselves any better than that on stage they should change careers, IMO. NONE of them showed the qualities I would hope to see in our nations highest leader.

They all sounded like snake-oil salesmen with promises to 'fix' this or that problem when common sense tells us that the fixes they were proposing are way beyond a presidents' ability to do.

Trump was wise not to get involved in such a juvenal public display of childish behavior and stupidity. They-every single one of them-handed an untold number of votes to the Democrats. IMHO, of course.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

*sigh

Once again, there is no point in Trump debating any of them when he is 50 points ahead of the next closest.

He will be the Republican nominee and he will defeat Biden for his second term.

As long as the Democrats don’t bring the world to a standstill at election time again.

a reply to: nugget1

Pretty much I agree. It's near intolerable to watch. I did like the first primary debate for the 16 election and found Trump to be the only person on stage to address current and dramatic issues. That is when I liked him as a candidate. That soon changed though when i found him to to be as shallow as all the others and merely a wise cracking insulter.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Let's be real! The other Republicans don't care about Trump defending his record. They just want the opportunity to blast his current personal life. They're not fooling anyone. I'm sure that debate is as bad as listening to all of the Democrat political grandstanding and Trump inferences going on today in Joe Biden's Impeachment Inquiry. You can't even dig through the muck to get to root of the inquiry.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: nugget1

Pretty much I agree. It's near intolerable to watch. I did like the first primary debate for the 16 election and found Trump to be the only person on stage to address current and dramatic issues. That is when I liked him as a candidate. That soon changed though when i found him to to be as shallow as all the others and merely a wise cracking insulter.

No use for a great economy, secure border, lack of war, or Middle East peace, eh ?

At least we currently have what Biden describes as a great economy, secure border, most needed proxy war ever, and Middle East peace that Biden invented.

originally posted by: nugget1
I tried to watch the debates,.

I didn't even know they were on. ZERO interest.

originally posted by: RazorV66
Once again, there is no point in Trump debating any of them when he is 50 points ahead of the next closest..

TRUE. It would be foolish of him to go to the debate. He's so far ahead and it could only raise the others up and bring himself down. It's the smart thing to do ... having his own rallies the same night ... that kind of thing.

a reply to: RazorV66

I don't think Trump wants to be a leader, he wants to be a winner. Only a winner. Not a leader but a boss. The Boss.

I think a leader would want to unite his party, Trump shows no indication to me that he is interested in this, merely to be the boss of the party. A leader would attend these debates and discuss with those contending for the nomination what it is that they think they could do that he hasn't.

Seeing as he is such a favorite in the polls, ask them how they would do better than him. He could show leadership and develop ideas among them on how to improve the party and then the nation. Use their skills and ideas to improve evereything.

Instead, he ignores them and insults them. These are not characteristics of a leader but rather the characteristics of a despot, and worse, a popular despot. He has made it clear that he does not respect the idea of collaboration but rather ,and only, the rule of authoritarianism, that is as long as the authoritarian is himself.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

When it comes to his highly touted visit to Detroit to address the on going strike of autoworkers, he also ducked addressing striking autoworkers, instead choosing to find a non-union auto parts manufacturer to visit.

Trump addressed what striking workers NEEDED to hear; that Joe Biden is trying to put auto workers out of business and driving auto businesses into the ground by forcing them to change their focus onto electric vehicles. So he did it in a neutral place, so what? As far as we know, Trump's prohibited from visiting protests and picket lines until after his legal issues are worked out. Can you really blame him for not appearing before a bunch of raging people at this point and time?

By the way, there were UAW workers at Trump's speech.

a reply to: RazorV66

How it's going -

Trump declared winner of second Republican debate

a reply to: FlyersFan

I agree, I think you are correct. That is if this were a contest to be King. But it is not. It is a winnowing process for the people to find the person best suited to represent their democratic wishes. This should be accomplished by the people listening to the best leaders we have to choose from discussing the issues we all face and how they could learn from each other to promote the best desires of the Republic. However this is not what any of them do, especially Trump who treats it all like ''i'm the king of the hill so none of you matter at all'' kind of approach.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I think a leader would want to unite his party, Trump shows no indication to me that he is interested in this, merely to be the boss of the party.

Uh, the Republican Party is at war just like the Democrats. You have two sides in each party that are dying to kill off the other half. There's nothing Trump can do about that. The corrupt side of the Republican Party wants to see Trump removed at any cost so they can hide their corruption. Like I said, it's no different on the Democratic side. Joe Biden will never be able to unite his party either. Half of them totally want Joe Biden removed from the candidacy for the Democratic nomination too. He's tanking the party as a whole.

a reply to: underpass61

A poll done by the Daily Mail? Oh please.That's like asking the players on the LA Rams who is going to win the game on Sunday.

a reply to: Deetermined

By the way, there were UAW workers at Trump's speech.

Reporters couldn't find them. When reporters talked to people holding signs about the UAW not only were those people not union members, they weren't even auto workers.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

By the way, Trump did follow the suggestions of his side of the Republican Party. The consensus on Twitter from Trump supporters was for him NOT to do the debates. Trump supporters hate the RNC, Fox News, and the other candidates. They weren't going to be watching the debate anyway because of the first two. Trump is just doing what he thinks his supporters want.

a reply to: Threadbare

The only source I read, which was a liberal one by the way, said that there were "some" UAW workers there.

a reply to: stevieray
It’s amazing how bad Christie has gotten,
Fatter and fatter even after the operation.

And now everything the guy says is classic fat boy bully angry yapping. How weird that even a former governor would become this cartoon.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Nobody's watching bro

"Sans Trump … these debates just aren't big-time TV because the GOP primary race has become a snoozer," an ad buyer told Semafor.

FOX Slashes Ad Rates as GOP Debate Audience Falls

a reply to: Deetermined

About 400 to 500 Trump supporters were inside a Drake Enterprises facility for the speech. Drake Enterprises employs about 150 people, and the UAW doesn't represent its workforce. It wasn't clear how many auto workers were in the crowd for the speech, which was targeted at them.

One individual in the crowd who held a sign that said "union members for Trump," acknowledged that she wasn't a union member when approached by a Detroit News reporter after the event. Another person with a sign that read "auto workers for Trump" said he wasn't an auto worker when asked for an interview. Both people didn't provide their names.

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