War Propaganda 101

Russophobia - "An intense and often irrational hatred of Russia."

Thanks to this substack for noticing this. It is utterly bizarre.Where the fek do they get these people?

This little monologue from Ursula von der Crazy could be poignant if she appeared capable of any genuine empathy. Instead she seems as genuine as a $3 note and it comes across for what it is, a very basic and obvious attempt at manipulative language and dehumanising the Russians. War Propaganda 101. After blowing smoke up the Japanese PM's backside she waxes on for some time about the genuine horrors of Hiroshima. Only to finish with the idea that "Russia threatens to use nuclear weapons once again" (I must have missed when they used them the first time) and "in the shadow of Hiroshima it is heinous, it is dangerous, it is unforgivable"...

I think this girl needs some history lessons. Tens of thousands of innocent people were needlessly vaporised at Hiroshima and Nagasaki but it wasn't from the Russians (the highest ranking military officials of the time were almost unanimous that it served no military purpose, as did the US govt's own strategic bombing survey).

There is something disgusting in conflating what is a genuine US caused needless tragedy with Russia in this way. The Russians are now to blame for US barbarity? Yeah, of course, sure Ursula.

a reply to: Quintilian
It is known that the Japanese due to their mindset never would have given up and if so, it would mean death by sword. It is a cultural thing we in the West can not really comprehend. US landing on Japanese islands would have led to much higher death tolls because the Japanese would have fought tooth and nail.

The tactical landscape did not allow it, so the US solution was to drop the nuclear bombs. From that point of view and perspective, it was a necessary evil, as cold as it sounds.

Ursula von der Leyen is old elite. Don't think for a second she is uninformed or dumb. Every word she says is calculated.

a reply to: Quintilian

I think its deeper than that. Just look into former 9th circuit court Federal Judge Richard Seeborg. He shut down the Trump administration attempt to ask what your citizenship on a census for. Try to find his parents by name. He was born in Landstuhl, Germany in 1956.

So just WTF and who is this guy.

Remember all those Hitler youth ? So what happened to them. Did they have babies and those babies are now in government positions across the world.

originally posted by: Quintilian
The Russians are now to blame for US barbarity?

No, they're just blamed for Russian barbarity.

a reply to: Quintilian

ursula von der crazy is as genuine as a 3 dollar note because she is dehumanising russians so lets teach this girl a lesson!

you elaborate your thesis of the clown world with the rhetorical finesse of a clown, which is paradoxical in my opinion.


seriously: she meant that hiroshima and nagasaki should be always a reminder to all of us of what an atomic bomb can do. and the issue of "once again" one can probably be traced back to the times of the cold war. i never liked her but if you want to challenge her you must check your argumentation first. and she is not a girl but mother of seven.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: Quintilian
It is known that the Japanese due to their mindset never would have given up and if so, it would mean death by sword. It is a cultural thing we in the West can not really comprehend. US landing on Japanese islands would have led to much higher death tolls because the Japanese would have fought tooth and nail.

The tactical landscape did not allow it, so the US solution was to drop the nuclear bombs. From that point of view and perspective, it was a necessary evil, as cold as it sounds.

Ursula von der Leyen is old elite. Don't think for a second she is uninformed or dumb. Every word she says is calculated.

Elite? Hah, I know what you mean off course, but what sets this cow apart from us honest/sincere hard working people?
The only reason she has her positon is because of ruthless psychopathic Nazi family connections who stole Jewish valuables, as the so called 'elites' started both world wars and are eager to start another. War is very profitable for these sick lizards. And idiots here and everywhere will bow at her feet and lick her boots Instantly believing evey word and not seeing the self-serving psychopatic lies.

a reply to: ancientlight
Nothing except what I wrote sets her apart, she is from old blood.

Nice rant though

Of course, comments are not allowed on the video, but as of this minute, she has 59 'likes' and 1500 'dislikes'.

a reply to: Quintilian

Russia has threatened several times to nuke the UK off the face of the Earth. Tsunami nukes etc.

I don't like that. Nothing against ordinary Russians. Does that make me a Russophobe?

Russia has invaded Ukraine and is targeting towns and cities and it's civilians and infrastructure.

A lot of Ukrainians don't like Russia very much at the moment.

Are they just Russophobes too?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Are they just Russophobes too?

Everyone SHOULD be a Russophobe. It literally means fear of Russians.

I think any normal person fears those willing to murder, rape and pillage. Indiscriminately so, while bragging about their victims online. Posting videos of executed civilians. Demolishing hospitals, maternity wards and theaters housing refugees.

There are so many videos of Russian war crimes online.

But eventually that fear turns into determination.

a reply to: Mahogany

I don't fear ordinary Russians.

Just their leaders.

Just wait until y’all find out what this war is REALLY about.

a reply to: PurpleFox

Do tell?

I think the fears of an atomic bomb are kind of overwrought. They have one, everyone else has one. I would fear more targeted explosions instead, of the non nuclear type. Too roosevelt esque. Too much oompah and production. Let's get our pipes and bags and learn basic materials type stuff.

a reply to: Quintilian

If we’re going to go back and look through the lens in the time of WWII, are we just going to gloss over the Soviets taking sovereign nations and killing millions through authoritarianism, starvation, and wars?

Depending on how you quantify the number, the USSR killed more non combatants than the Nazis (though longer period of time may not equate had the Nazis prevailed). But Stalin did give Hitler a run for his money.

But you are right in that the Russians helped us. Although, if I remember correctly, that wasn’t an organic relationship, and it didn’t start that way in the war.

I do appreciate there are arguments about the new Cold War, but white washing their history is past a stretch. Their citizens didn’t enjoy near the freedom we have today. You have the freedom to openly disagree with our government, while also owning and trading almost any asset, commodity, stock, or real estate that you wish.

originally posted by: PurpleFox
Just wait until y’all find out what this war is REALLY about.

Poor old Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Iran and China.

They’re bastions of humanity being free from authoritarianism… but the West provoked Russia, and forced their hands into invading their neighbor in an open quest to expand their borders. The largest nation on earth pushes onward on the moral high ground while people are brainwashed against their noble goals.

a reply to: CriticalStinker
I had to chuckle to myself so hard because when you chamber your burning dry sarcasm it's always entertaining.

I am curious though what you think about the US part in all this. Do you think it is purely love towards Ukraine and if not, how could that have affected the posture of NATO and US towards the Russian (gov) most fear? Being NATO expanding to it's borders.

Not saying the invasion was justified, more like, it was predictable and could have been prevented to keep at least the status quo for Ukraine and give the Russians some safety. I am just saying: US missile shield in Europe in contrast to missiles in Cuba. The US freaked out similar to Russia, yet found a diplomatic way, unlike Russia.

I also do not think the West (not only US) had these special ties to Ukraine because of mutual friendship, more like geopolitics. That does not justify the war, I don't feel like I have to explain my mindset to you, though, it's more a disclaimer for the ones reading.

Had that before ..

a reply to: TDDAgain

I am curious though what you think about the US part in all this. Do you think it is purely love towards Ukraine and if not, how could that have affected the posture of NATO and US towards the Russian (gov) most fear? Being NATO expanding to it's borders.

I don’t think there’s an argument that the US isn’t playing into its own interests. We have a lot to gain by crippling China’s most formidable ally. That said, I also can’t think of the last time a power openly sought to expand their borders by force. Weak as it may be, the Budapest memorandum does put a level of obligation on our plate. While it’s not a treaty, there could be ramifications to nuclear proliferation if we capitulate on a soft agreement.

Not saying the invasion was justified, more like, it was predictable and could have been prevented to keep at least the status quo for Ukraine and give the Russians some safety. I am just saying: US missile shield in Europe in contrast to missiles in Cuba. The US freaked out similar to Russia, yet found a diplomatic way, unlike Russia.

Before all this there was another confrontation. Russian Mercenaries pushed a US position in Syria around 2017. While Syria is neither’s neighbor, it’s a testament to a proxy war outside of Ukraine. They also positioning themselves close to Venezuela. If Venezuela defaults on their loans, Russia will have a strong position in south/Central America. I wouldn’t say that they don’t play in other peoples yards in modern times.


Ultimately I’m left with one question, if Russia has a leg to stand on, why aren’t more satellite countries aligned with them? I feel like this is a question you could answer better than I, since you grew up near the border of the iron curtain after it fell.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Oh Russia does not IMHO have a leg to stand on, just because they said for more than 20 years what they will do if NATO encroaches, does not make it right or justified (the leg I think you speak about).

And if you remember, my parents bailed the DDR when I was barely able to walk, I was actually born behind the iron curtain although I do not remember anything. But sure it was bad enough so my parents risked their life and mine to go out in the middle of the night and sneaked the fortified border by waiting in canal lines always afraid to be shot on spot if we were to be discovered.

Certainly the Russians were milder on the German part they controlled, than they were to their own people in mainland Russia. And if only for the public appearance and show. But it was still bad from the few select stories I got to know.

To close back on your question, I guess these countries remember the pains the went through and siding with Russia's acts would not only put them in disfavor with the West but also admit to Russia as a whole, ultimately endangering their own sovereign status. Because who's to say they are not next?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: PurpleFox

Do tell?

I’ll just say they Russia and Putin aren’t the bad guys you’ve been made to believe.