Ukraine says it killed top Russian admiral in Crimea missile attack

originally posted by: Mahogany
a reply to: tanstaafl
Yes, a nuclear sub.

a) Nowhere in your 'One of many links' link does it use the word 'nuclear', let alone 'tactical nuclear sub'.

b) Kilo class submarines are all diesel-electric powered, they are not nuclear powered.

Got any more links to back up your still unsubstantiated claim?

originally posted by: putnam6
Honestly, the types of losses Russia is incurring make it extremely unlikely they will make a move anywhere else in the near future, even a move on the smallest former Soviet state will likely draw the same response from the West.

Exactly. This is the number one reason many of our leaders understand how pivotal our support for Ukraine is at this moment.

Our support NOW means they won't be able to go any further later.

a reply to: Mahogany

Ukraine says it killed top Russian admiral in Crimea missile attack

Yeah, well, they also say they are winning the war and that Nazism isn't rife within the military and political establishment (despite reality indicating the opposite in both instances).

The Ukrainians say lots of things.

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: putnam6
Honestly, the types of losses Russia is incurring make it extremely unlikely they will make a move anywhere else in the near future, even a move on the smallest former Soviet state will likely draw the same response from the West.

Exactly. This is the number one reason many of our leaders understand how pivotal our support for Ukraine is at this moment.

Our support NOW means they won't be able to go any further later.

I already know Russia isn't going attack anywhere else any time soon unless it's WWIII, They just aren't, Russia has been degraded enough, that said 100 more billion doesn't guarantee a Ukrainian victory either, just makes more money for the MIC and cost money to the US taxpayer. Even then this will likely come down to negotiations unless Ukraine can actually evict Russia, they can't, from Ukrainian oblasts Russia won't leave without some form of negotiations.

Cruise Missiles and drone strikes don't take and hold territory, pretty sure Ukraine can't muster the troops to take and hold the Eastern oblasts and damn sure can't take Crimea.

See all that pink still left on the map, 50 billion isn't gonna buy that back for Ukraine, not without a down payment of 50,000 to 75,000 troops thrown into the meat grinder if not more.

So Ukrainian victory we need the collapse of Putin and Duma and the Military all have to agree to pull out in the next 12 months? It ain't happening hell in 2 months the ground battle will stop till April or May



REALITY

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Mahogany

Well, it's not like Ukraine started it with the cruise missile barrages and bombardments.

Nope they started it 10 years ago by denying their own citizens autonomy...

I'm over here wondering when you're gonna stop running interference for nazis.

a reply to: JAY1980

Nope they started it 10 years ago by denying their own citizens autonomy...

The issues go beyond a simple denial of autonomy by Ukraine and involve historical, cultural, and geopolitical factors, as well as complex relationships with Russia.

However, at the end of the day, internal matters are Ukraine's concern and hardly warrant invasion from another nation.

Plain as day Putin's war in Ukraine was all about a land grab and the return of Russia to some kind of semblance of the former USSR.

I'm over here wondering when you're gonna stop running interference for nazis.

That's nice, you wonder in one paw, crap in the other, and see which one fills up first for you.

The war in Ukraine is not predominantly about nazis, even if that is what you're beloved Putin would have you believe.

Just another spin and pathetic reason to attempt to justify his horrendous acts of depravity.

Point of fact also is that both nations, never mind many others including your own, experience problems where the likes of nazi ideologies are concerned.

So people in glass houses and all that jazz.

I do not really have the time to feed you today, never mind the inclination, so on that note, i shall simply bid you good day ta very much.