Trudeau, Zelensky honor 98-year-old veteran who fought alongside Nazis in SS division

Wish I could give more than just one star a reply to: schuyler

I am not surprised. The Minister of Finance, Freeland, has openly been photographed with the Azov unit in her showing of support towardas Ukraine.

a reply to: watchitburn

I have seen enough of your posts to understand you like myself realize how much we have been lied to by our government. So my question to you would be how are you so confident we were not lied to about WW1 and WW2? If you think about it we have been lied to about every war we have gotten involved in since those 2 so why be so confident that everything we have been taught about those wars were truthful?

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: schuyler

Not sure how you can't see that distinction but hopefully you remember it in the future.

What I AM sure of is that you were not there and do not know what this man and many others went through to bring them to the decisions they made. That this guy, my friend's father, and many others who were subjected to Communist subjugation would choose the Nazis over the Communists speaks volumes as to how bad the Commies were. In fact, were you to actually ask anyone in Latvia, Estonia, or Lithuania who went through the horrors of the Commies in WWII you would find similar strong opinions.

And now you guys, to no particular surprise, who not only were not there, but your parents weren't there or even born yet, and who know little other than what you have been told, have these knee-jerk reactions that show no more than your abject and uneducated ignorance of what actually went on there. It's no more than virtue signaling trying to show how righteous you are at the expense of others who actually went through some serious shyt while you suffered nothing.

You missed the mark with that comment. Both sets of my grandparents could read the writing on the wall and chose the third option and got the hell out of there. They had no interest in being part of Nazi Germany or becoming a communist. Both of my parents had lots of nasty stories about what went on over there. My father’s parents were actually born and grew up in Prussia (no it’s not a spelling mistake, I did mean Prussia).

I don’t care if this guy is 98, he was part of the Nazi SS and should never be honored for anything, and he had a choice.

a reply to: Grayarea

The funny thing is, he was honored specifically for his service during WW2.

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a reply to: schuyler

That's exactly right. People fail to understand, the Nazi's were considered Liberators for Eastern Europe. They gave people there countries back as long as they were Fascist. Additionally, they armed them to go beat on the Russians who had committed all kinds of evil against them. I went to the WW2 museum in Riga, Latvia, and the reality is the Nazi's were better at the beginning then the Russian's were. As a result, it filled the German army. Now, another thing to keep in mind, this guy if he was evil, would have hung at Nuremburg. The fact he was SS and didn't means that he was not guily of anything bad. Did he probably do something against the Russian's? Sure, I dare say he did, but another thing to keep in mind, the only reason why the USA went to war with Germany was because Germany declared war on the USA after Pearl Harbor. It's very possible Germany could have broke its alliance with Japan and not declared war. If that was the case, Europe would be alot different today.

Camain

a reply to: watchitburn

Look for Orest Vaskul, yet another "celebrated hero" of Ukraine, buried in 2021 under full presidential honours.

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There seems to be a theme going on here...

a reply to: seeker1963

That's a good question. WWI is harder, but I think we have enough records and individual accounts to be pretty confident about the sequence of events for WWII. All that aside, there's clear track records for communism and socialism over the last hundred years to see that they are both equally terrible.

Somebody somewhere f@cked up and now they're back tracking.....

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“In my remarks following the address of the President of Ukraine, I recognized an individual in the gallery. I have subsequently become aware of more information which causes me to regret my decision to do so,” Mr Rota said in a statement.

He added that his fellow Parliament members and the Ukraine delegation were not aware of his plan to recognise Hunka. Mr Rota noted Hunka is from the district he represents.

Once again I ask: Were they honoring a big group of elderly soldiers and he just happened to be in the group?
Because without knowing anything, I'm guessing so.
Am I wrong?



a reply to: MCurns

originally posted by: TheValeyard
Once again I ask: Were they honoring a big group of elderly soldiers and he just happened to be in the group?
Because without knowing anything, I'm guessing so.
Am I wrong?



a reply to: MCurns

Likely, yes.
Trudeau has often voiced his outward joy and support of communists and historical figures that embraced tyranny. (And it shows in his own policies).

a reply to: watchitburn

Leader of Canada’s House of Commons apologizes for honoring man who fought for Nazis

“In my remarks following the address of the President of Ukraine, I recognized an individual in the gallery. I have subsequently become aware of more information which causes me to regret my decision to do so,” Rota said in a statement.

“I particularly want to extend my deepest apologies to Jewish communities in Canada and around the world. I accept full responsibility for my action,” Rota said.

ETA: Oops. Already posted above.

a reply to: Klassified

Ya they found a fall guy.

All over the news here now and nobody I know is buying it.

ETA: keep in mind that Trudeau is compromised on multiple fronts.

He has Freeland, the Deputy PM and his WEF handler, is Ukrainian and she shouts it from the rooftops.

And.. Jimmy Dhaliwal, AKA, Jagmeet Singh, the NDP leader is propping up Trudeau’s government.

He’s a Sikh who is the first Western legislator who isn’t allowed to set foot in India due to his
Support of Pakistan and Khalistan.

Kinda explains Canada’s issue with India at the moment.

So trudeau "apologizes" and then in the same sentence tries to blame it on russian propaganda. unreal.

Trudeau blames 'Russian disinformation' for Nazi veteran attending Canadian Parliament

Trudeau's statement on Monday marked the first time he spoke since the Canadian Parliament gave a standing ovation to the Nazi veteran. The prime minister described the situation as "extremely upsetting" and "particularly" upsetting for Canada's Jewish community.

Trudeau also stated that the situation is "deeply embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada and by extension to all Canadians."

Ok. Seems appropriate (Though not sure why he has to throw all Canadians under the bus).
Then:

"I think it's going to be really important that all of us push back against Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation and continue our steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine

So it's Russia's fault they celebrated the nazi? They specifically lauded his military service vs Russia in WW2, so it's not like the didn't know (unless literally everyone doesn't know basic history).

a reply to: schuyler

The guy was old enough to have lived through the Stalin Purge/Famine of Ukraine in the 1930's which killed millions of Ukrainians.

So Nazi's come along and ask if he wants to kill Commies.


*shrugs*

It's not like he was a collaborator like Soros.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: schuyler

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It's not like he was a collaborator like Soros.

That's just right wing talki ... ack, I mean actual on video Soros talking points.

a reply to: watchitburn

Trudeau did send his goons with swastikas to try to discredit the Freedom Truckers when they were protesting so why is his being pro nazi such a surprise? Biden's a closet nazi as well.

Par for the course for baby castro, grovel to anyone that seems to have singular power.

That said, touch of history... while I know nothing about this guy, there was at least 1 unit of the Ss that were never accused of a single war crime. (SS nord I think it was)

So it is possible the guy was just a soldier fighting for his country and pulled into a place he didnt care for.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: schuyler

The guy was old enough to have lived through the Stalin Purge/Famine of Ukraine in the 1930's which killed millions of Ukrainians.

So Nazi's come along and ask if he wants to kill Commies.


*shrugs*

It's not like he was a collaborator like Soros.

bang on and I would bet that Putin's latest little wheeze has created tens of thousands of future nazis in the Ukraine.