So many shops restaurants businesses banks are closing

a reply to: Annee
Well its from years back during Floyd and BLM and whatnot. it kind of mutated into the branch covidian thing when that global corporate terror op commenced. Maybe my memory eludes me, but I swear you had been open with your support of those BLM mobsters. it is those very BLM mobs of which I refer. If I was mistaken and you were an opponent of the BLM gang than I offer my sincerest apologies.

Regardless, my point is who you vote for really does matter. One cannot cast aside the reasons as irrelevant. Its like you saying I am bleeding from an open wound, why is irrelevant. just put a band aid on it. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned in the why of the open wound??

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee


Reasons why don’t matter.

Wrong.

Reasons DO matter.

Especially leftist policies designed to create such unsafe environments.

OMG — let’s put the self-righteous, all-perfect Righties on a pedestal.

Your repetition is showing.

Nice deflection from leftist policies designed to, decriminalize, open borders, invite a Planned Economic system just like China's.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: Annee
Well its from years back during Floyd and BLM and whatnot. it kind of mutated into the branch covidian thing when that global corporate terror op commenced. Maybe my memory eludes me, but I swear you had been open with your support of those BLM mobsters. it is those very BLM mobs of which I refer. If I was mistaken and you were an opponent of the BLM gang than I offer my sincerest apologies.

Regardless, my point is who you vote for really does matter. One cannot cast aside the reasons as irrelevant. Its like you saying I am bleeding from an open wound, why is irrelevant. just put a band aid on it. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned in the why of the open wound??

I do not support mobs or any unlawful assembly with intent to cause harm or destruction.

I vote independently.

I am not casting aside reasons. I am not including them in this thread as it will take it off topic down a side road.

This is how the giant corporations come to be the only businesses left, and also own our homes/ domiciles so they can triple/quadruple dip.
They'll wait until all the small businesses are dead, then GVT will give big businesses a massive unnecessary bailout.
Relax, it's all part of the plan.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee


Reasons why don’t matter.

Wrong.

Reasons DO matter.

Especially leftist policies designed to create such unsafe environments.

She knows why, she just doesn't want to admit to it , because then she has to admit she was wrong about democratic policies (fragile ego). I can imagine her with her hands on her ears, and a blindfold on her eyes and mouth , and a mask (to stay 'safe' ) , all while going 'la la la '

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: musicismagic

What the world is going on there's not going to be any places pretty soon to shop at. I don't have the link but Sun newspaper just reported a whole bunch more closings so I guess you can check the internet on that part.

Not a problem, the government is already looking at city owned stores for your needs...
Chicago mayor considers creating city-owned grocery store after Walmart, Whole Foods close stores in the city

What could go wrong?

So government is going to control the means of production.

It's a Planned Economy.

Just like China.

Rations anyone?

Indeed. Control the food, control the people. I will stop all I'm doing and be done with life if this becomes reality.

I think they should tax the sh!t out of the rich and all corporations forcing them to outsource production to even more third world nations and replace the rest in country with AI and automation. S/c.

Shell companies are very popular for the wealthy; we're just jealous as we reach the brink of losing everything and joining the millions of homeless, while the illegal invasion takes over out hotels and motels.

The people defending this administration must have unlimited financial funds....for now.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: tanstaafl

Henry Ford didn't say that.

And you know this exactly... how?

There are many sources attributing it to him, one from the actual Congressional Record:

Scroll toward the bottom in the right column:
"It was Henry Ford who said, in substance, this: "It is perhaps well enough that the people of the Nation do not know or understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." "

Sp, om all likelihood, you are the one who is wrong, but...

Regardless of who said it, truer words have never been uttered.

Once money has been printed it can either float out into the world via banks slowly releasing it through loans or investments.

Said someone who doesn't understand the rank injustice of our banking and monetary system.

Any system that allows a tiny few the power to create out of nothing that which everyone else must earn by the sweat of their brow is by definition unjust.

Question: why is it necessary for a monetary system to have a certain level of inflation built in?

But then again, I'm arguing with someone who thinks it wasn't real or something.

That is not nearly so bad as arguing with someone who actually believes it was real.

originally posted by: ancientlight

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee


Reasons why don’t matter.

Wrong.

Reasons DO matter.

Especially leftist policies designed to create such unsafe environments.

She knows why, she just doesn't want to admit to it , because then she has to admit she was wrong about democratic policies (fragile ego). I can imagine her with her hands on her ears, and a blindfold on her eyes and mouth , and a mask (to stay 'safe' ) , all while going 'la la la '

I’m not a Democrat.

But I don’t discuss my personal politics on ATS.

I talk to a number of restaurant owners and managers.

Their biggest complaint is getting and keeping wait staff.
Next is cost of goods including rent.
Third is taxes.

These have always been the make/break for any restaurant that has good food.

After Covid, and with all of the civil unrest, all of these things became bigger problems; so much so that many have been forced to shutdown. The states and towns give them little to no help. The federal government wants more of what they have none of.
Customers are also are tipping less and theft/leaving without paying, is on the rise.

If they have had a high turnover rate, it's almost always because they don't pay enough, and have continuously refused to substantially raise wages over the last decade despite all the minimum wage contraversy.
I talk to business owners too.
I was making only 10 an hour at Subway even though they'd promised a raise to 11 after 30 days. I'd never missed a day, and got fired for called in legitimately sick. They texted me on my way to the doctor to tell me I was fired.
The gas station down the block from me is always hiring. The start at 10 an hour, and they repeatedly hire meth addicted women who get their first paycheck and buy a bag of crystal and never show up again. I've applied there more than 10 times over the years and can never even get an interview. LMAO.

I worked at the local pizza place years ago. They kept starting pay at 7.35 an hour.
That wasn't enought even in 2013. It remained 7.35 until last year, when
went out of business last year. Reopened this year under new owners. New owners reached out to me in linkdin asking me to apply. Their starting wage is 10 an hour. 10 an hour is actually the same or even less than the 7.35 of 2013 if you think about it for 10 seconds, so they'll go out of business again. I laughed and closed the window.
The reality is that any USA place paying less than 15$ per hour should be boycotted, and workers are doing just that.
With the cost of goods increases, we can't afford not to anymore.
My local paint store and hardware store, and lazer tag arena all pay less than 15, and there's rumors about em all going out of business.
Look, if you can't afford to have employees, then either slam a lot of intravenous uppers and do all the work yourself, or simply don't have a business. Smaller businesses had a chance to be competitive with wages and most of them refused and chose to b**** and moan about "nobody wants to work anymore!". Oh, we'll work if paid, just not for you and your cheap a^^.

The previous pizza place owner, btw, totally BLACKMAILED me into coming back to work. I was living with my dad and his DR said he'd die if he got the VID (before the vaccine). Boss had just laid me off and I'd got approved for unemployment, but kept in touch.
He called me and said I had to come back or he'd report me and I'd lose unemployment. Well, I went back to work, collected the unemployment from being on reduced hours for several months, and WASN'T even cashing my paychecks.
Eventually, I found a better job and left, but he got 4 or 5 months of totally free labor out of me,
and still had the audacity to tell people I had "screwed him over bigtime".
If you think about that as a human being: "If he comes back to work he could get sick and his dad might die, but he's the bad guy who's exploiting me by working for me and not making me pay him."

My friend just left his local restaurant shift leader job of 4 years because they still only paid 11.50 an hour and had a crazy hostile tweaker that constantly threatened staff and threw fits, and they refused to fire him even though legally they could have.
It's almost always super bad management, low wages, and no respect for their employees.
People aren't THAT lazy. I've had totally crap jobs I've stayed at longer than a year just because the pay was OKAY and good benefits and I liked my coworkers. This stuff isn't rocket science.

High turnover rates and retraining new employees constantly is expensive, and they still don't put two and two together and realize raising wages is more cost effective in the long run. I don't feel bad for most of them.
So cry about it I guess. Hell, we can all long distance "group cry" if ya want. Just let me know when we're done! LOL.

"Muh unchecked greed is destroying capitalism and making socialism seem like the objectively better option, and the workers won't be muh slaves anymore and they get mad when I blame it on them, and I can't afford that new car I wanted! MOM! MOOOMMM plez help I can't find any1 to work for a nickel anymore! WAAAAAAAAAAA!"

That's all I hear when I hear complaints like that.
Good riddance to em all. Just a bunch of stupid friggin narcissist whiners.

What we ought to do is raise hell at Washington until they raise the friggin minimum wage again, and have them do something legislatively about predatory price gouging, but everybody instead wants to make it an identity politics thing. It won't be for much longer, I can tell you that.

a reply to: charlyv

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: musicismagic

It might be the soaring high cost of rental units, some are going up 10 to 20 percent these days. Is it once again greed within capitalism?

I’d like to see different types of malls.

That include live theaters, art museums, play places, better food courts, and sample shops (order from the sample home delivery).

And clothing stores with body scanners — that order clothes to fit.

The way of the future is online ordering — but a realistic personal experience is needed to go along with it.

That's a great idea because then they could have their own police force/surveillance systems in a smaller space, that is if the main concern is for better safety, lower theft, and/or lower rents. Wouldn't smaller retail spaces within that mall also be a solution (less space, less rent) and if they don't have an item in stock then a quick delivery method (like Amazon lol cough) including alterations? It makes sense because before I go to a live theatre a passable dinner beforehand is a must - two birds with that one stone right there.

Right. Who mostly goes to malls these days?

Teenagers and moms with kids (where else can you go with your kids that doesn’t cost a fortune?)

Def need strong security anywhere teens hangout. And storefronts with bulletproof closures (let’s be real).

These malls just need to modernize to a changing world.

Walmart is testing “sealed stores”. You have to have a coded card to enter. Anything you put in your cart (or on your person) is automatically scanned to your card.

I’d go as far as requiring an ID to enter any enclosed mall.

Our local huge mall (the 2nd largest in the state) is being overrun by unruly teenagers (gangs in other words) so badly that shoppers are avoiding it -
For the first time ever, a policy has been put into effect that anyone under the age of 18 must be chaperoned on Friday and Saturday evenings, or they are not allowed to enter the mall.
The class and behavior of people has gone right down the tubes, which is the real problem.

Which reminds me, the last time I went to that mall, which is quite some time ago, a huge young teenager was running around the food court, bothering all the customers and asking for money. Saying that she needed it for food.
The authorities were called and she was taken out to a police car.
Haven't been back since.

originally posted by: RonnieJersey

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: musicismagic

It might be the soaring high cost of rental units, some are going up 10 to 20 percent these days. Is it once again greed within capitalism?

I’d like to see different types of malls.

That include live theaters, art museums, play places, better food courts, and sample shops (order from the sample home delivery).

And clothing stores with body scanners — that order clothes to fit.

The way of the future is online ordering — but a realistic personal experience is needed to go along with it.

That's a great idea because then they could have their own police force/surveillance systems in a smaller space, that is if the main concern is for better safety, lower theft, and/or lower rents. Wouldn't smaller retail spaces within that mall also be a solution (less space, less rent) and if they don't have an item in stock then a quick delivery method (like Amazon lol cough) including alterations? It makes sense because before I go to a live theatre a passable dinner beforehand is a must - two birds with that one stone right there.

Right. Who mostly goes to malls these days?

Teenagers and moms with kids (where else can you go with your kids that doesn’t cost a fortune?)

Def need strong security anywhere teens hangout. And storefronts with bulletproof closures (let’s be real).

These malls just need to modernize to a changing world.

Walmart is testing “sealed stores”. You have to have a coded card to enter. Anything you put in your cart (or on your person) is automatically scanned to your card.

I’d go as far as requiring an ID to enter any enclosed mall.

Our local huge mall (the 2nd largest in the state) is being overrun by unruly teenagers (gangs in other words) so badly that shoppers are avoiding it -
For the first time ever, a policy has been put into effect that anyone under the age of 18 must be chaperoned on Friday and Saturday evenings, or they are not allowed to enter the mall.
The class and behavior of people has gone right down the tubes, which is the real problem.

Yep.

I wasn’t making it up.

And they need trams with guards running regularly to get customers safely to and from their vehicles.

All the brick and mortar stores may be closing but there is a huge surge in dirty dilapidated food trailers/broken down trucks with a half assed deck/canopy nailed into the side of it opening up in nearly every gas station parking lot.

Progress...

originally posted by: StratosFear
All the brick and mortar stores may be closing but there is a huge surge in dirty dilapidated food trailers/broken down trucks with a half assed deck/canopy nailed into the side of it opening up in nearly every gas station parking lot.

Progress...

In my Walmart they allow people to sell out of the trunk of their car.

Some damn good burritos and tamales.

We have so much growth happening in my neck of the woods.

Within three miles of me -

New hospital
New life time fitness
Two new apartments complexes
New oil change franchise
New bank
New Dutch bro.

And more coming..

Ugh.

I live in a very desirable place fortunately or unfortunately, I can’t decide. One good thing is we finally have some really good restaurants.

a reply to: quintessentone

Not one human being on earth since 1913 has lived under capitalism. When banks began owning governments, you stopped having capitalism. In 1937, the US formed itself into an incorporated entity.

Do some research, stop parroting idiocy such as it is all the fault of capitalism. If we had real capitalism, there would be none of this "too big to fail" nonsense. Because those that failed would be out of the .arkets, no golden parachutes for the wealthy CEOs.

That isn't even touching the fact that all currencies are fiat currencies unless backed by something tangible.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I don't think it's that. It's more of a cost saving measure on the restaurant. I know a guy that's a chef. He quit one place because they brought in pre packaged food that you just had to microwave and serve. He didn't want to be a "microwave chef". Some of the best food I had was in Washington state. Everything was sourced locally and cooked by people that loved to cook. And you could absolutely taste the difference.

a reply to: Annee

In my Walmart they allow people to sell out of the trunk of their car.

Gross, this is not what cars are made for. Well, we say you are what and how you eat. People are pigs.

Or just silly people with silly political orientation doing silly things, giving other people food poisonings.