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a reply to: Deetermined

Alpha and Omega implies that God includes all that can be. So yes Jesus is God as long as you include yourself and everything else that exists in that equation. When you point to Jesus and say Jesus is God and nothing else. You are creating limitations on God that only exists in your mind.

a reply to: Untun

memories that exist in the mind.

a reply to: glend

Have you ever heard a Jewish saying "Whoever fulfills the Torah in poverty will ultimately fulfill it in wealth". Do you think the Jews are talking about ending the law. Clearly not, the Law are codes of righteousness. Jesus did not teach you that you no longer need be righteous. Instead he stressed in Matthew 5:20 "except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven". Paul too said in Romans 7:12 "So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good."

No one said anything about not needing righteousness. You obviously don't understand the purpose of the Law or what Paul is saying in Romans 7, so I have linked a more detailed description of what Paul is REALLY trying to tell you below. As for the Scribes and Pharisees, they were misusing the law to hurt people rather than helping them. They did not have the Spirit of God in them.

learn.gcs.edu...

Paul said in 1st Cor 6:19 "Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God". If God did not make us in his image, we would have no consciousness to experience anything in this universe. Our body and mind is nothing but dust (atoms etc). Nothing will save that dust from returning to dust.

I don't know why you think this has anything to do with what I've been telling you. You insist on looking at Jesus as only a man, when He wasn't. He was the ONLY human ever conceived by the Holy Spirit. It's not his body that saved us, it was His blood being used as a sacrifice. He is now with us in the form of the Holy Spirit. Jesus IS the physical manifestation of God. He IS the Holy Spirit that dwells in us. We are not the Holy Spirit. He was divine from the beginning. You were not. I don't know how to make it more clear than that.

originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Deetermined

Alpha and Omega implies that God includes all that can be.

Alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the alphabet in Greek and are used as a title three times in the book of Revelation. The respective positions of these letters in the Greek alphabet are used to illustrate that Jehovah alone is the beginning and the end. (Revelation 21:6) He was Almighty God in the infinite past, and he will continue to be Almighty God forever. He is the only one who is “from everlasting to everlasting.”​—Psalm 90:2.

The final occurrence of the title is at Revelation 22:13, which states: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” Once more confirming its meaning as explained above. The title “the Alpha and the Omega” carries the same thought as “the first and the last” and “the beginning and the end” when these terms are used with reference to Jehovah. Before him there was no Almighty God, and there will be none after him. He will bring to a successful conclusion the issue over Godship, forever vindicated as the one and only Almighty God.​—Compare Isa 44:6.

It has nothing to do with pantheism (the notion that everything is god, pan meaning "all"). Or the way you put that idea.

originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Deetermined

Alpha and Omega implies that God includes all that can be. So yes Jesus is God as long as you include yourself and everything else that exists in that equation. When you point to Jesus and say Jesus is God and nothing else. You are creating limitations on God that only exists in your mind.

Except that's not what Jesus taught. The only way to "include yourself" is to accept that Jesus is God, the way, the truth, and the life.

What you don't understand is that YOU are just trying to mold God into what YOU WANT Him to be instead of what He told us He was. You are playing with your own mind and fooling yourself. While God/Jesus has no beginning or end, everything else is a creation of His, that He will judge because angels and humans have FREE WILL to reject Him. We ARE NOT automatically born with the Spirit of God ensuring the salvation of ALL. Otherwise, there would be no sin, or at least no need for judgement at all. Salvation is a free gift from God for those who ACCEPT who He is by HIS TERMS, not yours.

If you want to believe in a universal God where all of creation will automatically be saved from a spiritual death, go right ahead. Just don't use Jesus to make your point, because that is not what HE taught, no matter how much you try to twist it to make it so.