A covid trojan horse?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: FatherQuinlan

I still find it baffling that people don't understand that a vaccine, by definition, is supposed to promote IMMUNITY in the body and PREVENT you form getting the disease that it was MADE to counteract.

Polio, measles, mumps, all have vaccines that PREVENT you from getting them.

Covid has a shot, that in some cases, will make the symptoms slightly less than if you didn't have it. But, will not prevent it all together.

The vaccine for HPV also only protects from what, 5/11 of the known HPV viruses right? So we can't call that a vaccine either.

And also, the covid shot DID prevent infections. Not all, okay. And so okay, we call it "COVID Potential vaccine" or change the name to something entirely different... It still kept infection away in a lot of people.
But then let's change the name.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: FatherQuinlan

I still find it baffling that people don't understand that a vaccine, by definition, is supposed to promote IMMUNITY in the body and PREVENT you form getting the disease that it was MADE to counteract.

Polio, measles, mumps, all have vaccines that PREVENT you from getting them.

Covid has a shot, that in some cases, will make the symptoms slightly less than if you didn't have it. But, will not prevent it all together.

And also not true. I've never had covid. I was vaccinated. Does that mean I still have had it, even though I never even had the mild symptoms, and had to get regularly tested because of my job.

a reply to: FatherQuinlan

But when it was advertised, from the beginning, as a way to prevent the spread and prevent you form getting it?

How do people not see through the BS?

I don't care what you call it as long as you call it what it is, a BS excuse to get people to do what you want and make anyone who refuses to get the jab the enemy because they "don't care about anyone but themselves". Which was the basis for MSM propaganda for the last 2 years

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: FatherQuinlan

But when it was advertised, from the beginning, as a way to prevent the spread and prevent you form getting it?

How do people not see through the BS?

I don't care what you call it as long as you call it what it is, a BS excuse to get people to do what you want and make anyone who refuses to get the jab the enemy because they "don't care about anyone but themselves". Which was the basis for MSM propaganda for the last 2 years

Ohh don't get me wrong, the media, and many of the CDC equivelent orgs (I don't live in the US, so no CDC) were full of sh!t. All our news here were also full of sh!t. Couldn't even get the numbers, side effects, symptoms, etc right.
So yes, they should have called it something else.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: FatherQuinlan

But when it was advertised, from the beginning, as a way to prevent the spread and prevent you form getting it?

How do people not see through the BS?

I don't care what you call it as long as you call it what it is, a BS excuse to get people to do what you want and make anyone who refuses to get the jab the enemy because they "don't care about anyone but themselves". Which was the basis for MSM propaganda for the last 2 years

Also on a side note. I hope I did not trigger any anger in my replies to you. I don't like posting anything in any forum. It doesn't take much more than a word before I can't sleep. I've got BPD and bi-polar.
I try to be as polite as I can as I don't want to cause conflict.
Peace and love.

originally posted by: Saloon
Tell me wearing a mask all day won't do this as well.

I have no problem telling you that, because it is true.

a reply to: LordAhriman

I think you're likely to be the only one left believing that.

I thought even you knew that wearing a mask all day depletes
oxygen intake. Put a mask on do some actual physical labor for
a day. You'll see.

originally posted by: Saloon
I thought even you knew that wearing a mask all day depletes
oxygen intake. Put a mask on do some actual physical labor for
a day. You'll see.

No it absolutely does not.

And I did. Every day for a couple of years.

a reply to: FatherQuinlan

But when she looked at the statistics in her field, the numbers were quite clear on that.

We saw all through covid how 'statistics' were manipulated to show exactly what those having the opportunity to become billionaires wanted them to show.

Statistics also show having been vaxxed made a person three times more likely to get covid, and treatment was causing 'rebound' covid.

I am not in the category that can risk the known side effects of the vaccine, and if I were to get covid I'm sure it would be very bad. How many other 'unvaccinated' people in my situation got covid and were then added to the 'unvaxxed get sicker' group?

We've already learned how all information was deliberately falsified and manipulated to show us what they wanted us to believe, so at this point in time I consider 'statistics' to be just as biased and false as polls are.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Ya hey thanks for the biased opinion but I think I'll listen people
like Dr.Coleman.
Just seems like a better way to go for me than a gov. ideolog.

But have a nice day!

originally posted by: Saloon
Ya hey thanks for the biased opinion but I think I'll listen people
like Dr.Coleman.
Just seems like a better way to go for me than a gov. ideolog.

But have a nice day!

If it can block oxygen, it would be very efficient at blocking a virus. You can't have it both ways.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: FatherQuinlan

I still find it baffling that people don't understand that a vaccine, by definition, is supposed to promote IMMUNITY in the body and PREVENT you form getting the disease that it was MADE to counteract.

Polio, measles, mumps, all have vaccines that PREVENT you from getting them.

Covid has a shot, that in some cases, will make the symptoms slightly less than if you didn't have it. But, will not prevent it all together.

its like most forgot the basics and john snow.. i get all these researchers want to be the next john snow but instead becomes like Farr in rejecting the obvious for ideologies sake as the explanations are to unpleasant to even think about they'll all sit with farr in the history books as eventually accepting science..

a reply to: LordAhriman

Textf it can block oxygen, it would be very efficient at blocking a virus. You can't have it both ways.

I never said it blocks oxygen. I said it depletes oxygen intake without
saying how. So with a mask on you get a mix of Co2 and oxygen when
inhaling. Not just oxygen but oxygen depleted by the Co2 exhaled.
That's how it would deplete oxygen and in turn damage organ tissue.

originally posted by: Saloon

I never said it blocks oxygen. I said it depletes oxygen intake without
saying how. So with a mask on you get a mix of Co2 and oxygen when
inhaling. Not just oxygen but oxygen depleted by the Co2 exhaled.
That's how it would deplete oxygen and in turn damage organ tissue.

This actually diminishes your argument. If it can keep c02 in...

a reply to: LordAhriman

I wouldn't doubt how that could happen in your mind.