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Congressional Committee Public Hearing with NASA on NASA's UAP REPORT

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posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 09:22 PM
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****Disclaimer yes I know nothing is likely to come from this but it's an important step and the pressure needs to stay up ******

Let's hope we get the right people asking the right questions, again I DON"T EXPECT MUCH nor anything new, it's like some one said elsewhere you can learn stuff from what they don't say. I still want to hear NASA's thoughts on the 2001 NASA hearing and why this contractor said NASA had upclose and obvious UAP images



Congressional Oversight Committee will have a Public Hearing with NASA on NASA's UAP REPORT



I know people crap on Corbell and even Knapp a little, but they are still talking up the issue and hopefully keep the heat up. We need people talking about this over and over




posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 09:27 PM
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Honestly, anyone who still craps on Knapp, or Lazar, probably isn't qualified to have an opinion on these issues.



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: putnam6
Who the hell is Vicky Vermin ?

She looks like that bozo chick from Parks & Recreation.

That won’t help the movement.



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: stevieray
a reply to: putnam6
Who the hell is Vicky Vermin ?

She looks like that bozo chick from Parks & Recreation.

That won’t help the movement.


Apologies meant to have a link for more info.... forget the source and read the story and get back to me on how this hurt the "movement"

www.howandwhys.com...




On May 9, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and the resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. As part of the Disclosure Project, Donna Hare, a photographic scientist testified to have worked for NASA contactor Philco Ford in the early 1970s. She had a high-security clearance to walk in NASA’s photo lab and other departments.

During the Disclosure Project press conference, Hare revealed that NASA covered up and eliminated space anomalies such as UFOs from the satellite photos. Hare has got several awards in the space programs. She dedicated most of her time as a technical illustrator to space programs. She created lunar maps and landing slides and had been working for 15 years as a sub-contractor for NASA.


After the Pentagon‘s great UFO declassification and congressional hearings, NASA decided to hunt down the aliens. The agency possesses advanced technology on Planet Earth, exploring the possibility of transforming satellites into alien seekers to probe unexplained sightings without launching new equipment. The Galileo Project is designing a space mission to rendezvous with the next anomalous (Oumuamua-like) interstellar object that zooms into our solar system.

Is that the first time NASA became interested in alien civilizations? NASA whistleblowers, who claimed to have closely worked in some of the top missions, do not think so. Former NASA employee, Donna Hare reportedly saw a photo of a distinct UFO. Her colleague explained that it was his job to airbrush such evidence of UFOs out of photographs before they were released to the public.

On May 9, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and the resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. As part of the Disclosure Project, Donna Hare, a photographic scientist testified to have worked for NASA contactor Philco Ford in the early 1970s. She had a high-security clearance to walk in NASA’s photo lab and other departments.

During the Disclosure Project press conference, Hare revealed that NASA covered up and eliminated space anomalies such as UFOs from the satellite photos. Hare has got several awards in the space programs. She dedicated most of her time as a technical illustrator to space programs. She created lunar maps and landing slides and had been working for 15 years as a sub-contractor for NASA.

Donna Hare NASA UFO Photos
Donna Hare: Image credit: YouTube screencap
Hare claimed to have had access to a place known as “Building Eight,” from where she made contacts with high-ranking officials. Once, she walked into a restricted area which was NASA’s photo lab. She noticed the lab had photographs of the Moon taken from satellites. She was with a friend who pointed at one of the photographs and surprisingly, she saw a round white dot.

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Below is the transcript of Hare’s part in the Disclosure Program (Full Video link here):

“Good morning everyone! My name is Donna Hare, and I worked at Philco Ford aerospace from 1967 to 1981. During that time, I was a design illustrator draftsman. I did the launch slides, landing slides, and also projected plotting boards lunar maps for NASA. We were a contractor but most of the time, I worked in Building 8. I had the opportunity to do extra work during downtime which was between missions, and I walked into a photo lab which was the NASA lab across the hallway. I had a secret clearance which is not that high but I was able to go into restricted areas.

At the time, I was talking to one of the techs in there and he drew my attention to a NASA photograph. It had a “Dot” on it, and I asked what it was. Well, he drew my attention to it and I said is that a dot on the emulsion? He was smiling and he had his hands crossed… This was an aerial photograph of the Earth, I’m assuming the Earth because it had pine trees on it and the shadows of the craft or whatever it was were at the same angle as the trees and by its very nature, a UFO. And I wanted to clarify that to the gentleman that was talking to me… So, I did not know what this was but I realized at this point that it’s very secret.

I asked him what he was gonna do with this piece of information. He said they always airbrush these out before they sell them to the public, so they’re pissed pesky little creatures appearing on this photograph they wanted to get rid of. After that, I decided I would ask questions to other people that worked there (away from the site and not on site).

A guard told me that he was asked to burn some photographs and not to look at them, and there was another guard guarding him who was in green fatigues watching him burn the photographs and he said he was too tempted he looked at one.

I knew someone in quarantine with the Apollo astronauts he told me that the Apollo astronauts saw crap on the moon when we landed. He said that the astronauts are told to keep this quiet.”





posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: putnam6

I agree with you. I love this stuff.
But I just can't bring myself to trust anything the govt. tells us. It's a terrible Catch-22.

I want more govt. disclosure, then won't believe what they tell me either way.



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: TheValeyard
Honestly, anyone who still craps on Knapp, or Lazar, probably isn't qualified to have an opinion on these issues.


What about those of us who don't know who they are?



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: putnam6

I agree with you. I love this stuff.
But I just can't bring myself to trust anything the govt. tells us. It's a terrible Catch-22.

I want more govt. disclosure, then won't believe what they tell me either way.


The U.S. government says the UFOs are real airships, but doesn't know who controls them. Why can't those two things be true?



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: putnam6

There is some sociological truth to the "Six Degrees of Separation" idea.

It is therefore quite possible that you know someone who knows someone who could ask those questions you want answered...whatever they are.


Use those connections!



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 10:56 PM
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In the latest live interview with NASA boss he said when asked about Grush stuff that, that is cool and all but whre is the beaf where is the evidence it is just hearsay from a friends friend.. and I mean, he is kind of right in that.
The same goes with Donna Hare claims, I personaly thinks she is telling some version of truth, but I bet he will say the same thing, where is the evidence where is the beef ? and again he is right, even if he should know that she is speaking the truth, it is easy to dismiss because of no eveidence. Donna Hare claims was also before the time of the current NASA boss, so person he does not even know about it. I hope in the future that anyone bring out heavy claims support it with some kind of evidence.



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 11:03 PM
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LOL if you don't make a habit of crapping on stuff you don't know about, then you're probably in the clear!

Bob Lazar was a physics and engineering contractor who came forward in the 90s, claiming to have been approached by the military to work on a Top Secret UFO back-engineering program, because he had met Edward Teller through his work at Los Alamos Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and Teller had talked him up to leaders of the military project, and shown them a news article featuring Bob's work at Los Alamos as the headline, and they were impressed.

Bob was subsequently made to sign NDAs and was hired on as a special contractor/ consultant, and his primary job was basically to figure out the energy system of an alien craft and figure out what powered it. Records of his educational and employment history were suspiciously absent after he came forward. He claimed they'd simply destroyed the paper trail
to discredit him. Many said he never even worked for Los Alamos, until an article from the local newspaper was found that listed him as one of the scientists at Los Alamos, pictured with a large group of scientists and engineers.
After that, many said, "Well he clearly DID work at Los Alamos, but there's just no record of it."

George Knapp was a Las Vegas news reporter at that time, and was the one Lazar went to with his story.
Lazar told Knapp that he was fearing for his life, and he thought going public was the best way to dissuade the military/ government from killing him.

As a result of this story and its subsequent popularity, George Knapp, who was, and still is a serious reporter, became known as the "UFO guy", but after years and years of digging and looking for holes in Bob's story, has come to be certain he's actually telling the truth. He has guest hosted the popular radio show/ podcast "Coast to Coast AM" several times, and is a public advocate of disclosure, and uses what happened to Lazar as an example for why the public should be made aware of these black projects; so that kind of stuff won't ruin people like Bob and have them fear for their lives.

You might hear the name Jeremy Corbell related to this stuff, or hear him talk. He's basically another journalist/ researcher who happens to be friends with both Lazar and Knapp, and is trying to keep the story alive so people will take action. They don't want this to die. That's why they were there in Congress.

I'd highly recommend listening to a long form Bob Lazaar interview. He goes into scientific detail about how antigravity works, and how these ships fly, and it's pretty friggin cool.

Ever set a ball or a marble on a trampoline? You know how wherever you went on the trampoline, the ball would follow the indent around your feet? It's kinda like that, but with spacetime. Definitely worth looking into.


a reply to: carewemust


edit on 19-9-2023 by TheValeyard because: I don't have an editor anymore. LOL

edit on 19-9-2023 by TheValeyard because: I don't have an editor anymore.



posted on Sep, 19 2023 @ 11:22 PM
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Because plenty of high profile people have been saying that's not the case.
The former Canadian Minister of Defense, and Haim Eshed of Israel, said USA has literally made deals with them.
You can't make deals with someone you've no dialogue with.
The issue is one of clearance, like the beloved name of this website.
Some have "need to know". Most don't.

It's not like most of the government already knows and just refuses to tell the public.
You didn't think THAT was the case, did you?
This secret has been VERY carefully kept.
It's kinda like finding the ONE fire ant who stung you after they all went back underground.
He ain't coming back out unless you smoke em all out or grab a shovel and dig the whole hill out.
That's why we can't wait for the liars to admit they lied.
It's dumb. We KNOW they lied and they still refuse to fess up.
So dismantle and defund their black projects so they wouldn't be able to keep such a secret anymore.
That's what should happen.

MOST OF US AREN'T WAITING FOR DISCLOSURE. WE ACTUALLY FEEL WE GOT IT ALREADY.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SUSS OUT THE CRIMINALS WHO KEPT THIS SECRET, and
dismantle this neverending secret keeping money sucking black hole that's draining our system dry from the inside.


a reply to: carewemust


edit on 19-9-2023 by TheValeyard because: clarification



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 02:34 AM
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originally posted by: stevieray
a reply to: putnam6
Who the hell is Vicky Vermin ?

She looks like that bozo chick from Parks & Recreation.

That won’t help the movement.


Yeah, sounds like some sort of stripper name



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 04:45 AM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: putnam6

I agree with you. I love this stuff.
But I just can't bring myself to trust anything the govt. tells us. It's a terrible Catch-22.

I want more govt. disclosure, then won't believe what they tell me either way.


I likely won't believe them either but this is all part of the process of what would have to happen for disclosure.No more no less, besides you did see where Mexico doubled down on the Peruvian Alien mummies SWIW



www.wionews.com...




One of the corpses of aliens that were unveiled last week in Mexico Congress underwent several laboratory tests, including an X-ray and CT scan, as part of an investigation to determine whether they were man-made or real.

The tests that were completed on Tuesday (Sept 19) at a laboratory in Mexico City finally revealed that the mummified remains were not manufactured or tampered with in any way, suggesting that they might be real.

The tests that were completed on Tuesday (Sept 19) at a laboratory in Mexico City finally revealed that the mummified remains were not manufactured or tampered with in any way, suggesting that they might be real.

Jose de Jesus Zalce Benitez, director of the Scientific Institute for Health of the Mexican Navy, said that the alleged bodies belonged to a single skeleton and were not assembled with animal or human bones.





posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 05:08 AM
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a reply to: putnam6

This is what David Grusch said about Congress:



Grusch said he hasn't personally seen any alien vehicles or alien bodies, and that his opinions are based on the accounts of over 40 witnesses he interviewed over four years in his role with the UAP task force.

"My testimony is based on information I have been given by individuals with a longstanding track record of legitimacy and service to this country — many of whom also shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony," Grusch said, adding that the trove of evidence has been intentionally kept secret from Congress.


www.npr.org...

How can Congress, NASA and those sixteen independent investigators disclose anything when all evidence is being kept secret? This is such a waste of time. Go after those 40 witnesses and those that are still on the program (pilots?).



Grusch also alleged that the U.S. has retrieved "non-human" biological matter from the pilots of the crafts, adding, "That was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the [UAP] program I talked to, that are currently still on the program."



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 05:37 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: putnam6

This is what David Grusch said about Congress:



Grusch said he hasn't personally seen any alien vehicles or alien bodies, and that his opinions are based on the accounts of over 40 witnesses he interviewed over four years in his role with the UAP task force.

"My testimony is based on information I have been given by individuals with a longstanding track record of legitimacy and service to this country — many of whom also shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony," Grusch said, adding that the trove of evidence has been intentionally kept secret from Congress.


www.npr.org...

How can Congress, NASA and those sixteen independent investigators disclose anything when all evidence is being kept secret? This is such a waste of time. Go after those 40 witnesses and those that are still on the program (pilots?).



Grusch also alleged that the U.S. has retrieved "non-human" biological matter from the pilots of the crafts, adding, "That was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the [UAP] program I talked to, that are currently still on the program."



Not sure why you think we haven't heard Grusch's comments yet, It is common knowledge his beliefs are based on the 40-plus individuals he interviewed.

Regardless Congress gets hearings from whomever TPTB deems can get questioned on this now it's NASA's turn. If NASA was/is operating independently we may get more info, but I expect a lot of no comments and National security concerns, etc.



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 06:12 AM
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originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: putnam6

This is what David Grusch said about Congress:



Grusch said he hasn't personally seen any alien vehicles or alien bodies, and that his opinions are based on the accounts of over 40 witnesses he interviewed over four years in his role with the UAP task force.

"My testimony is based on information I have been given by individuals with a longstanding track record of legitimacy and service to this country — many of whom also shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony," Grusch said, adding that the trove of evidence has been intentionally kept secret from Congress.


www.npr.org...

How can Congress, NASA and those sixteen independent investigators disclose anything when all evidence is being kept secret? This is such a waste of time. Go after those 40 witnesses and those that are still on the program (pilots?).



Grusch also alleged that the U.S. has retrieved "non-human" biological matter from the pilots of the crafts, adding, "That was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the [UAP] program I talked to, that are currently still on the program."



Not sure why you think we haven't heard Grusch's comments yet, It is common knowledge his beliefs are based on the 40-plus individuals he interviewed.

Regardless Congress gets hearings from whomever TPTB deems can get questioned on this now it's NASA's turn. If NASA was/is operating independently we may get more info, but I expect a lot of no comments and National security concerns, etc.





Not sure why you think I think you haven't heard Grusch's comments...the opening phrase was for context in specifying his comments on Congress, specifically.

I too expect more of the same.



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: TheValeyard
Honestly, anyone who still craps on Knapp, or Lazar, probably isn't qualified to have an opinion on these issues.


What about those of us who don't know who they are?


If someone doesn’t know who Lazar or Knapp are, they must be new to this subject.

And in that case, they should have no opinion until doing significantly more research - you’re basically just glimpsing over the edge of the rabbit hole.



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 08:43 AM
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It appears to me that all of this "revelation" exposure, claims and attention is ALL based on heresay.

Like the NASA guy said the other week, they will examine and base their findings on EVIDENCE.

Greer, Corbell, Pope, Knapp, Keane, Grunsch and the rest of the insane clown posse have yet to provide EVIDENCE.

Bring out all the whistleblowers, experiencers, knows-a-guy folks ad nausem but at the end of the day, we need EVIDENCE.

I personally don't discount this alien corpse in Mexico but based on the sources, I'm skeptical

It's almost like the folks at the top of the UFO pyramid are keeping the charlatans around, piece-mealing info to them as bait for a gullible public for a reason.
Could this be a new level of mockery, gaslighting, escape and plausible deniability being created before our very eyes?



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: TXRabbit
It's almost like the folks at the top of the UFO pyramid are keeping the charlatans around, piece-mealing info to them as bait for a gullible public for a reason.
Could this be a new level of mockery, gaslighting, escape and plausible deniability being created before our very eyes?


My thoughts exactly whenever the "authorities" claim it's time for transparency. "Transparency" just means a new narrative.

Do not trust people who've been lying to us for millennia. "Disclosure" is a psyop to keep us hooked and ignorant; relying on someone else for information and validation. Trust yourself. Find your own answers.

Whatever is out there doesn't need governmental permission to reveal itself to you or anyone else.



posted on Sep, 20 2023 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: putnam6

This is what David Grusch said about Congress:



Grusch said he hasn't personally seen any alien vehicles or alien bodies, and that his opinions are based on the accounts of over 40 witnesses he interviewed over four years in his role with the UAP task force.

"My testimony is based on information I have been given by individuals with a longstanding track record of legitimacy and service to this country — many of whom also shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation, and classified oral testimony," Grusch said, adding that the trove of evidence has been intentionally kept secret from Congress.


www.npr.org...

How can Congress, NASA and those sixteen independent investigators disclose anything when all evidence is being kept secret? This is such a waste of time. Go after those 40 witnesses and those that are still on the program (pilots?).



Grusch also alleged that the U.S. has retrieved "non-human" biological matter from the pilots of the crafts, adding, "That was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the [UAP] program I talked to, that are currently still on the program."



Not sure why you think we haven't heard Grusch's comments yet, It is common knowledge his beliefs are based on the 40-plus individuals he interviewed.

Regardless Congress gets hearings from whomever TPTB deems can get questioned on this now it's NASA's turn. If NASA was/is operating independently we may get more info, but I expect a lot of no comments and National security concerns, etc.





Not sure why you think I think you haven't heard Grusch's comments...the opening phrase was for context in specifying his comments on Congress, specifically.

I too expect more of the same.


Which supposedly has nothing to do with NASA, weren't all of Grusch's interviews with personnel in the DoD realm? One would expect our National Air and Space ADMINISTRATION to have it's own collection of evidence, though the DoD probably wants to keep that classified too.

This is why I brought up Ms Hare's comments as she worked directly with NASA for 15 years in photography. ie boot on the ground. As a starting point, there are more independent NASA-related possibilities. For example, wouldn't one expect NASA to know more about the Black Night satellite which so far they suggest is a thermal blanket from a previously known satellite launch?

www.popularmechanics.com...




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