Brandon Fugal 4 hour interview with Shawn Ryan, Fascinating!

After watching this podcast with the Skinwalker owner Brandon Fugal, I was shockingly impressed with how he got into the weeds about his life and ambitions.
I in general, tend to view Millionaires and Billionaires with a working-class bias. But, I have to admit, after watching this podcast, I really like this guy.
In this podcast, he answered of a few of the skeptic's assertions about the show being scripted or manipulated. He also states, that he takes no money from the proceeds the Skinwalker Ranch docu-series generates. And, never ever is he going to sell the Ranch.
This was an excellent podcast.

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a reply to: Bflash

Here in a bit I will have to give that a watch!
Thank you for sharing.
I have an old friend that has some land kinda near the ranch and he wants to have a get together next month and he claims he often experiences unusual things. I am looking forward to that mini vacation. Even though I just had a vacation in Washington.

a reply to: Bflash
Sorry I don't have 4 hours to watch. Does he say anything about whether or not he will share the data that's been requested so we can see if he and his Skinwalker crew are lying to us or feeding us BS about dropping a bottle over a wormhole and then seeing it bounce off of something?

Skinwalker Ranch Helicopter Bottle Drop Experiment

basically, they did an experiment dropping bottles with GPS trackers out of a helicopter over the wormhole (!) and then claimed the results showed the bottles bouncing off something.

You can see there does not seem to be a real bounce there from the TV shots, but the actual data would make it very clear.

This came up in an interview of Fugal that was posted on youtube, and his chief scientist Eric Bard said something like he was reluctant to share the data because he thought the people he shared it with might not know how to deal with it.

But Mick West says he already understands the format of the data and knows how to deal with it, and if you've followed any of his work, he has analyzed that type of data before. This is his response video where he says Brandon Fugal said sharing the data was one of their objectives, so please go ahead and share it because I know how to analyze it:

Can we see the Bottle Drop Data? Please?


So I'm wondering if they are not sharing the data because it will show the bottle didn't really bounce like they are claiming, and as you can see above where West says even the TV shot doesn't seem to show a real bounce.

So is Brandon Fugal going to come clean and be consistent with his word that he thinks sharing the data is a good idea, and share the data? Or hs he and his crew feeding us BS and that's why he won't release it? Mick says he doesn't think Brandon is intentionally lying, but want to see what the data analysis will show . See the video and the discussion here at about 12:30 in the video:

Off The Ranch Ep3: "Show Us The Raw Data" with Skinwalker Ranch's Brandon Fugal and Erik Bard

He also states, that he takes no money from the proceeds the Skinwalker Ranch docu-series generates.

That's interesting, so who does get that money?

Not hard to find corporate moguls who enjoy talking about themselves, I didn't really care about that part. I think they lingered on the topic too long, and he often needlessly reintroduced the theme of himself into a few parts going on. He seems like an ok guy, a bit proud of himself and perhaps rightly so, but I'm listening because of the ranch. We all were.

Also LOL'd hard to a guy being referred to as Dragon. I haven't watched the show in a long time and forgot about him.

a reply to: Bflash

Skinwalker is an obvious money grab scam. It exists solely for the purpose of sensation and enticement.

Give me an example of just one verified and real-world, independent agency that agrees with any of the bollocks spewed forth by the producers and other clowns related to this circus.

Waste of time and to be honest, an insult to actual ufology and related issues.

Didn't watch but it sounds like a great advertisement for the show!

Did he discuss how at such a dangerous place like SW they're raffling off visits for contest winners via the History Channel because....you know...it's soooo dangerous?

Did they cover all of the "tests" they did on the triangle by sending stuff up above it instead of just using the 2nd unit photography drones that were everywhere?

Remember...one does not get rich in real estate by buying property with no value. What if (BIG what if) you took a piece of property and were able to use the magical powers of television to increase it's value?? Crazy!

a reply to: Arbitrageur
4 hours? Dropping bottles over wormholes. Is this for children?

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Arbitrageur
4 hours? Dropping bottles over wormholes. Is this for children?

Nah, it's for the simple minded.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Arbitrageur
4 hours? Dropping bottles over wormholes. Is this for children?

Children usually don't have well-developed critical thinking skills, so suspension of disbelief comes easily to them.

Adults are supposed to have more developed critical thinking skills. So when an adult watches a fictional show like Star Trek Deep Space 9, they may intentionally suspend their critical thinking skills of asking questions like "is that wormhole really possible? Didn't scientists show that sending matter through a wormhole is probably impossible?" and such, so they can just sit back and enjoy the fictional storyline uncritically.

But this skinwalker ranch show doesn't present itself as fiction like the Star Trek show, they claim to be doing science and scientific analysis. So a rational adult would not normally set their critical thinking skills aside for a science show, like they would for the fictional show. But it appears that some adults who watch the Skinwalker Ranch show seem to be accepting the claim that they are doing science, and not applying their critical thinking skills, or if there are some adults who have underdeveloped critical thinking skills, maybe they don't have much of those to apply, making them somewhat child-like in their willingness to believe claims that skinwalker ranch has a feature like a "wormhole" so far only found in science fiction, as well as mathematical calculations saying they are probably unstable and would not be able to transport matter.

But if Brandon Fugal provides the data and it shows the bottle bounced off the wormhole, scientists might need to re-assess the feasibility of wormholes, or maybe Travis needs to repeat the experiment to see if it's repeatable. I have seen sudden gusts of wind before which could accelerate a dropped bottle, but I think that would show a different profile than the bottle bouncing off of something as they claim. I would like to see Mick West's analysis of the data, and if it's made public, any one of us could repeat the analysis ourselves, since it's not that hard to do with computers.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

So, after all that dialectical masturbating
I'll take that as a no, you didn't enjoy the interview.

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Good luck on your trip, and let us know if anything interesting occurs.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

The number of hours it would take for a 42-minute production set has to be significant.
The ability to show each experiment's data sources would be too time-consuming. Maybe, you just take it on faith? Personally, I don't feel like I'm being scammed with false information, so, I am free to enjoy the show.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

"He also states, that he takes no money from the proceeds the Skinwalker Ranch docu-series generates.
That's interesting, so who does get that money?"

He explains that in the interview.

a reply to: Duggz

His humble background and upbringing explain a lot about the man he is today.


"Also LOL'd hard to a guy being referred to as Dragon. I haven't watched the show in a long time and forgot about him".

I would suspect that was his military call sign and it followed him into civilian life,

My nickname from the military has stuck with me now for 59 years. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, a friend I've known for about 30 years called me "Hey Flash, what's your real name, I need it for Mama's obituary.

Hey, it be that way sometimes.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Arbitrageur
4 hours? Dropping bottles over wormholes. Is this for children?

You probably came in on the wrong part of the conversation.

originally posted by: Kreeate
a reply to: Bflash

Skinwalker is an obvious money grab scam. It exists solely for the purpose of sensation and enticement.

Give me an example of just one verified and real-world, independent agency that agrees with any of the bollocks spewed forth by the producers and other clowns related to this circus.

Waste of time and to be honest, an insult to actual ufology and related issues.

A money grab scam? Do you think this guy is broke? The producers from the History Channel took a year to convince him to let them film it.