Scientists unveil pair of 'mummified alien' corpses to Mexico congress

a reply to: mirageman

Obfuscation by proxy indeed. Money, is what drives these charlatans. No interest in actual ufology, just moniez!!

originally posted by: charlyv

originally posted by: Spacespider

originally posted by: charlyv
The Mummy that Jaime showed in Mexico, gets examined by this extremely diversified panel of Experts[

Dr. Patrick Soon Shiong
Dr. Michio Kaku
Dr. Heather Knight
Dr. Steven Greer
Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

A majority result from a test like this, should be definitive.
Why should we be afraid of logic like this?

lol, those guys, what a bunch of "experts" those are the top of the cream riding waves of conspiracy and children stories.
Having Dr. behind your name does NOT make you a expert, it only makes you a nerd in book reading and throwing around buzz words

No, having a DR in front of your name does not mean you are an expert, however most all experts have at least a DR and most are PHD. That means they went to school and we kind of insist on credentials.

BTW: The list there are some of the smartest people on this planet, and you think they are nerds that throw around buzzwords?

You happen to be living in a time of science, medicine and technology in this world that each of them had a part in creating. No respect.

You are giving far too much credit out. Not a single person alive today for one is responsible for creating our current state of sciences, medicine and technology. All building on the backs of countless individuals before them.

Paying money and staying within the systems of accreditation can be considered a form of intelligence sure, but that hardly is a metric of “the smartest people on the planet”.

Few posts seem to deepthroat authority as firmly as yours. No respect for such NPC behavior.

originally posted by: charlyv

originally posted by: Spacespider

originally posted by: charlyv
The Mummy that Jaime showed in Mexico, gets examined by this extremely diversified panel of Experts[

Dr. Patrick Soon Shiong
Dr. Michio Kaku
Dr. Heather Knight
Dr. Steven Greer
Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

A majority result from a test like this, should be definitive.
Why should we be afraid of logic like this?

lol, those guys, what a bunch of "experts" those are the top of the cream riding waves of conspiracy and children stories.
Having Dr. behind your name does NOT make you a expert, it only makes you a nerd in book reading and throwing around buzz words

No, having a DR in front of your name does not mean you are an expert, however most all experts have at least a DR and most are PHD. That means they went to school and we kind of insist on credentials.

BTW: The list there are some of the smartest people on this planet, and you think they are nerds that throw around buzzwords?

You happen to be living in a time of science, medicine and technology in this world that each of them had a part in creating. No respect.

Doctorates are generally and mostly focused on a very specific aspect of their field. It does not necessarily imply a broad general knowledge. Just because someone "went to school" does not automatically imply that they are competent in their field. Someone with a brilliant memory and an IQ of 90 could pass an advanced course. Does not imply that they have critical problem solving skills or thoughts. The world is filled with "experts" who have no practical experience, yet are full of opinions.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: SkyAngel
Scientists in Mexico are pulling back the curtain on what they believe are aliens, and they put two corpses on display.

Two small mummified specimens were unveiled at Mexico's first-ever congressional hearing on UFOs Tuesday.


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It's an Obvious FAKE .

One just wiggled his nose.

a reply to: FingerMan

I agree, I think we were all so excited, but it seems to be a hoax. So he has pulled the video. He is probably mortified, but I am sure he will be more cautious in the future.

Chris Lehto is new to the field of UFOlogy but he seems to have integrity. I won't hold it against him that he supports Greer lol

a reply to: mirageman

"He's the Mexican equivalent of Corbell or Howe. Who might both also be on some form of payroll. "

I digress on LMH, however. LMH is spot on with the mutilations and other things related her guests. She is raising awareness and that is not a sh8t show, like the guy in Mexico. Some of the things paranormal or metaphysical are not nor will be accepted as science, you it's easy to dismiss her. I'll give you this - it's given her eyeballs and ears. She might be a self-promotor as some have called her and dlollygagging the die hard skeptics, like yourself, but she is on no one's payroll. The guy in Mexico doesn't have half her brains and, if anything, was duped into this stunt.

My understanding is there are 20 or so whatever you want to call those objects. Time will tell how this impacts UFOlogy, but I am with the skeptics, this far. It made some of the MSM which makes it more likely to be a programmed hoax, unfortunately. There are plenty of bodies and specimens that are in USG possession, although that will never matter because you will never see THEM and no one is going to leak THOSE documents.

Regardless, you are looking at this UFOlogy from the wrong prospective. For example, If I were curious and investigative, I would look spend my time on Dr Steve Greer and find out what payroll or objective is driving his agenda? like yourself, that the Government or US military is conducting clandestine aerospace operations and accompanied disinformation. HOWEVER, all the abductions, implants, and aerospace advancement , things you seem to dismiss, are NOT ETs but US. Don't you find that disingenuous and a disturbing claim much more so than clown shows?

What if there is an active presence of ETs (there is) and some of them pose a human security risk but Greer doesn't want that to cloud his message (which I believe)? Or what if Greer is lying about some of the sensational claims (I don't know that he is abut your time would be better spent on this angle than worrying about reporters and documentarians). BTW, have you ever come across the term, ZODIAC in your research? TY

JMHO, Sir.

Experts pan ‘alien corpses’ shown to Mexican Congress, calling it a stunt
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Ryan Graves, one of the gang of three who testified to Congress lately alongside Dave Grusch, couldn't stomach this sideshow.

After the U.S. Congressional UFO hearing, I accepted an invitation to testify before the Mexican Congress hoping to keep up the momentum of government interest in pilot experiences with UAP. Unfortunately, yesterday’s demonstration was a huge step backwards for this issue. My…

A Peruvian official states:

Peruvian Culture Minister Leslie Urteaga cast further doubt on the claims, saying no scientific institution in the South American country had identified the remains as non-human and questioned how the specimens had left Peru.

Another expert...

On Wednesday, Julieta Fierro, researcher at the Institute of Astronomy at UNAM, also expressed skepticism, saying that the allegedly calcified bodies “made no sense.”
She pointed out that it’s strange that such items — a “treasure of a nation” — would be removed from Peru without inviting the Peruvian ambassador.

She also said that Maussan’s claims that her university endorsed the discovery is false, and noted that scientists would need more advanced technology to determine the age and origin of the findings than what Maussan says was done.

Something new on this one:
Thes poor aliens only had three fingers, so in UFO hoax lore, they lost a finger...

a reply to: introufo

Yeah……it’s looking like old crusty dead Aliens ain’t gonna cut it……

We’re going to need a live specimen….


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originally posted by: deltaalphanovember
a reply to: FingerMan

I agree, I think we were all so excited, but it seems to be a hoax. So he has pulled the video. He is probably mortified, but I am sure he will be more cautious in the future.

Chris Lehto is new to the field of UFOlogy but he seems to have integrity. I won't hold it against him that he supports Greer lol

Chris Lehto had by far the most intriguing and in-depth video on the topic. He very descriptively previewed the data as given at the conference.

As I scoured YT for more videos like his, I was disappointed to see basically no new information on the subject.
I then typed the exact name of his video into the YT search bar. His video was nowhere to be found. I thought YT was hiding/supressing his video. I then went to his video's and noticed it was missing from his library. I thought, "did he delete his video?"

So I went to a dreaded place,,,, Reddit. That is where I found the DEBUNK VIDEO.
And then I knew, Chris deleted his video LOL!!! Very unlike his character to delete the video like it never happened and not put anything up as to why he did that. That video was on its' way to becoming his most viewed video on YT, and quickly.

I saved the video in one of my files, but he completely deleted it, or I'd post it here.
If that is how Chris rolls, I'd suggest unsubscribing his channel.

I can understand being embarrassed. He got hoodwinked. We all did. But to pretend he never made the video, put out an exciting piece on the news, then delete it and walk away like he is blaming an old man for a fart, that is just not the type of person I find credible. Like I said, I'll give it some time.

a reply to: FingerMan

Lehto did offer an explanation video yesterday as to why he took down the video (obvious reasons), and says he wasn't aware of the previous Maussan debacle until his supporters pointed it out. He's not in that sphere really coming from a fighter pilot background. We all learn at our own pace.

a reply to: FingerMan

That is a very good video man. Thank you.

a reply to: FingerMan

Thx!

Well there you have it…….in all its Hoaxing glory….

The ET corpses were debunked way back in 2021



Jaime the Joker


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I'm not sure if Jaime is just that much of a complete idiot or if he is being paid to discredit and make a mockery of the field.

It is sick how we are constantly being lied to from all sides!

Why aren't these liars fired, etc.?

They are gaslighting us and distracting us - just so we don't fight them the way we should!

I don't want my tax money to go to corrupt politicians, scientists, or other freaks!


All this is making it more difficult for us to find the truth, but we should never stop looking just because A-holes lie to us!

a reply to: play4keeps

LMH is spot on with the mutilations and other things related her guests. She is raising awareness and that is not a sh8t show,

No, she really is either a gullible, credulous, magical thinking fool or she's polluting the topic for her own reasons.

She might have done some interesting work in 1980. But that was half her lifetime ago. Ever since, she has promoted fantasy as fact and lies as truth.

Just a handful of her fraudulent stunts below:

1) Tried to pass off a forged MoD memo as real regarding the Rendlesham case in her book and has continued to promote it.

2) Stole artwork from the computer games Area 51 and tried to pass it off as a genuine photo of an alien on the moon. Curt Jaimungal put her on the spot, and she went into meltdown.



3) Stole artwork from a Brazilian designer Philipe Kling David and tried to copyright and pass it off as footage of an alien.

You know this and ignored it in a thread you created about it last year. One can only surmise you support the grift and illegal activities of this little old woman for purposes of perpetuating myths.

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4) Tried to pass off the MJ12 documents (which are also forgeries) as genuine on the Ancient Aliens TV show. The SOM1-01 document is full of obvious errors. It is a forgery.



5) She even made $30k from TTSA selling them junk passed off as old UFO parts (or Arts Parts).

6) Whenever an awkward question is asked she recites her career in a monologue for 10,15 minutes in an attempt to make th audience forget and face up to her trickery. As she did in the above video with Curt J.

We can't save everyone from believing her lies and defending them. Some are too far down her rabbit hole. But we can stop those with better critical thinking skills getting dragged down. Hopefully one day legal action may be taken against the old fraudster.

All Linda needs to do is admit her attempts to con people and spread false mythology, return all the money she took from gullible people and retire in disgrace.

a reply to: mirageman

I could add more MM. But you have done a fine job pointing out what you have .

Personally I think she should retire and enjoy the fruits of her labour rather than continue as she has/ is.

I'll leave it at that .

a reply to: mirageman

Ufology never learns does it?

How about waiting to hear more about this, instead of calling it an instant hoax? I am not saying its not a hoax, but I am not say it is either, because we do not know!

If they do not allow experts to test the bodies outside ot Mexico, then yes, thst is a red flag. But until then, wait snd see.

a reply to: mirageman

or she's polluting the topic for her own reasons.

of course she is, along with 99.5% of the so called "experts" it's called the dollar. so long as the gullible keep on believing the pig sh@@ that she's shoveling and that they 're spot on, they will keep on polluting the topic.

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

How about waiting to hear more about this, instead of calling it an instant hoax? I am not saying its not a hoax, but I am not say it is either, because we do not know!
If they do not allow experts to test the bodies outside ot Mexico, then yes, thst is a red flag. But until then, wait snd see.

already been tested quite a few times, and found to be fake. hell some of the people they claim that tested them and said they were not human have said they never even seen them or that they didn't claim what was presented.

you do realize this is at least the second time he's tried to pass these off as proof.

a reply to: JumpTheGun76


What is there to wait and see?

From the post quoted....

The problem is, the mummies which were found in 2017, have already been convincingly debunked by scientists.

The rest of it explained why.