Has Elon been lying to us about UFOs?

I was just watching a video on David Grusch.

At the 9:59 mark, David Grusch states that "X", a really important person, confirmed details on UAP projects.
Few seconds prior to that he states "the quality of people we talked to, would blow your mind if they came forward." Alluding to "X".

I am probably reaching on this. And the person he was talking to is also most likely Avi Loeb or the Head of Nasa. But using "X" like that may be code, or a freudian slip.

So if it was code, then Elon = X, and is part of the back engineering program, and has been bold face lying to the public to thwart efforts of disclosure.

This is one of those "fun" conspiracies.

I do not see Elon being the mystery x he is a to simple and honest person for that, imo.

I thing this x figure given his clearance level must be mostly off grid in his public life, like a sewer worker without the sewers, and cover stories for pretty much everything, single and no kids and no near family.

a reply to: Spacespider

I wouldn't say Musk is a simple man but does seem to be more honest than most in his financial situation. With that said I still take some of what comes out of his mouth piece with a grain of salt.
But if a private citizen did have knowledge it would be him.
I still agree though it probably wasn't him.
He would have used the opportunity to grab the highlights of the century and make many monies. And the government knows he can't be bought.
So Elon= not X

a reply to: FingerMan

Thoroughly enjoyed watching the OP vid.

Nice to see Grusch in a relaxed casual setting.

Interesting indeed.

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I liked the bit with the dog.

I'm waiting now for the many conferences etc.

Time will tell re Grusch .

If Musk has been read in, he has to be careful with what he does say about the topic.

For whatever reason this guy doesn't seem credible to me.

a reply to: FingerMan

Grusch with the boy scout personality traits.
Obvious delight at being allowed to swear on camera.

If I were betting - he likely means someone important within familiar hierarchical domains - so someone with a high rank/impressive title/high pay grade in Govt.

He admits during the interview that his entire world view on the subject is derived solely from speaking to plausible proponents of the "must be NHI's" theory.

Perhaps "they" seek out those naive enough to believe every one else in the national security business has similar good intentions?

Let them spend a bit of time with TTSA (some decent heavy hitters despite TDL) and have people as authoritative as Wolesley stoking the fire with unproven anecdotal tales?

For some people- the idea that their overlords could be wrong.. or even worse...lying to them - is harder to accept than non evidenced NHI's.

a reply to: FingerMan

Maybe, Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aeropsoace openly said that Aliens are here and “Right under our noses” if you believe what he is saying.
Many people took that as meaning they live among us, I thought he was possibly saying that they are underground beneath us.

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

Maybe Bigelow should have explained himself rather than allow people to play the guessing game.

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Grusch with the boy scout personality traits.

As said a few times am waiting to see what crazy UFO conferences he will be speaking at. Not forgetting there is bound to be some book deal at some stage too.

Still waiting for Zondos.

Just because someone is a billionaire doesn't mean they have above top secret security clearance. Elon Musk doesn't strike me as someone who is informed on UFOs nor does he seem interested.

originally posted by: Spacespider
I do not see Elon being the mystery x he is a to simple and honest person for that, imo.

I thing this x figure given his clearance level must be mostly off grid in his public life, like a sewer worker without the sewers, and cover stories for pretty much everything, single and no kids and no near family.

Simple and honest is how you just described one of the smartest and richest people on earth.

Rich people aren't honest, and smart people aren't simple.

You hit your head man?

originally posted by: RedPanda94
Just because someone is a billionaire doesn't mean they have above top secret security clearance. Elon Musk doesn't strike me as someone who is informed on UFOs nor does he seem interested.

He seems very interested. Also the nature of his work right; he runs Space X. He has a satellite network in space.

If anyone would know it would be him, because they couldn't hide it from him. He also doesn't seem disinterested, he talks about UFO's and Aliens regularly. He's also facinated by the Fermi Paradox, which states diffinitively there are either an uncountable amount of Alien life, or no Alien life.

Elon seems to think we're not that unique or rare and that earth isn't all that special; so that should inform you on which side of the fermi paradox he leans.

And yes; you can't make it to billions without knowing things other people don't. So yeah; almost every billionaire knows something that's top secret. Power is power, when you have more money than a countries GDP; you're going to know things about the nature of life that nobody else knows.

Don't be naive.

a reply to: FingerMan

I think the "really important people" he's talking about are people within the DoD/CIA, if what he says is true and these people did "confirm" things to David Grusch I think he could be in Paul Bennewitz territory , a dangerous place to be for sure.

Here’s a SpaceX anomaly clip …. claimed to be ice…..

Not so sure…about that

When the stages separate ….you can see the flake sizes of bright white ice crystals. The object that flys between the stages is much larger, metallic looking and geometric despite its tumble.

A probe perhaps?




Resembles a hexagon with depth…imo


I would think anyone including Musk, Bezos with operations in space….are read into some degree of anomalous awareness…..imo.

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originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: Spacespider
I do not see Elon being the mystery x he is a to simple and honest person for that, imo.

I thing this x figure given his clearance level must be mostly off grid in his public life, like a sewer worker without the sewers, and cover stories for pretty much everything, single and no kids and no near family.

Simple and honest is how you just described one of the smartest and richest people on earth.

Rich people aren't honest, and smart people aren't simple.

You hit your head man?

I respectfully maintain my position that Elon Musk's success can largely be attributed to his simplicity and honesty, qualities that have set him apart in the world of entrepreneurship and innovation. Let me elaborate on this viewpoint.

Simplicity in Musk's approach to complex problems has been a hallmark of his success. Instead of overcomplicating solutions, he has consistently sought elegant, straightforward answers to some of the most pressing challenges facing humanity. Take, for example, his vision for sustainable transportation with Tesla. While other automakers were immersed in complex internal combustion engine technology, Musk simplified the equation by focusing on electric vehicles and clean energy. His straightforward approach has not only revolutionized the automotive industry but also contributed significantly to combating climate change.

Honesty, too, plays a pivotal role in Musk's success. His willingness to acknowledge failures and setbacks openly is a testament to his honesty. This transparency builds trust with both consumers and investors. People are more likely to support a visionary leader who is forthright about the challenges they face. Musk's ability to admit when things haven't gone as planned and to work tirelessly to rectify issues has bolstered his reputation for integrity.

Now, regarding the notion of holding top-secret information, it's essential to distinguish between the secrecy of classified government matters and the protection of proprietary business interests. While Musk may be privy to certain business-sensitive information, such as Tesla's future product plans, it's not equivalent to holding the 'universe's greatest secrets.' Musk's ventures, such as SpaceX and Tesla, are transparent about their missions and objectives. They operate within the bounds of regulatory compliance and intellectual property protection, which are essential aspects of responsible business conduct.

Contrast this with individuals engaged in clandestine or covert activities, where deception and secrecy are prerequisites. A person leading a double life, as implied, would indeed find it challenging to maintain the level of transparency and trust that Musk has cultivated. Moreover, such secrecy would likely involve legal and ethical ramifications that could jeopardize a person's reputation and success.

In summary, Elon Musk's success can be attributed to his simplicity in solving complex problems and his honesty in navigating the business world. These qualities stand in stark contrast to the complexities and ethical dilemmas associated with living a double life or holding top-secret information. Musk's achievements are a testament to the power of simplicity, honesty, and visionary leadership in the realm of innovation and entrepreneurship.

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Elon is all about 👑 & 💰

He’s a business man first and foremost

This is the corporate history of Tesla, Inc., an electric vehicle manufacturer and clean energy company founded in San Carlos, California in 2001 by American entrepreneurs Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning. The company is named after Serbian-American inventor Nikola Tesla. Tesla is the world's leading electric vehicle manufacturer, and, as of the end of 2021, Tesla's cumulative global vehicle sales totaled 2.3 million units.

Tesla was incorporated (as Tesla Motors) on July 1, 2003, by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning in San Carlos, California.[2][3][4] The founders were influenced to start the company after General Motors recalled all its EV1 electric cars in 2003 and then destroyed them,[5] and seeing the higher fuel efficiency of battery-electric cars as an opportunity to break the usual correlation between high performance and low fuel economy in automobiles.[6] The AC Propulsion tzero also inspired the company's first vehicle, the Roadster.[7][8] Eberhard said he wanted to build "a car manufacturer that is also a technology company", with its core technologies as "the battery, the computer software, and the proprietary motor".[9]

Ian Wright was the third employee, joining a few months later.[2] The three went looking for venture capital (VC) funding in January 2004[2] and connected with Elon Musk, who contributed US$6.5 million of the initial (Series A) US$7.5 million[10] round of investment in February 2004 and became chairman of the board of directors.[2] Musk then appointed Eberhard as the CEO.[11] J.B. Straubel joined in May 2004[2] as the fifth employee.[12] A lawsuit settlement agreed to by Eberhard and Tesla in September 2009 allows all five (Eberhard, Tarpenning, Wright, Musk and Straubel) to call themselves co-founders.

Musk had nothing to do with inventing and engineering the Tesla car.

He sued to be called a co-founder. He’s ruthless…..don’t step in his way.

imo

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: FingerMan

Thoroughly enjoyed watching the OP vid.

Nice to see Grusch in a relaxed casual setting.

Interesting indeed.

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Very interesting indeed. Helped me get a different perspective of him. I actually believe him a little more now. I’m not seeing autism in him, though. He must have a very mild form of it.