Zodiac, UFO crashes, red orbs & giant brains: The Sedge Masters Story - Full story & analysis!

Ever since Grusch mentioned there was a UFO retrieval program essentially that’s been operating in the background…..he never mentioned the name. Why?

The name Zodiac has been thrown around as the possible name for the program that may have been in his mind.

What do we know about Zodiac? Is it a valid program name that’s been hiding in plain sight?

I’ve recently become aware that Zodiac has been mentioned in print as far back as 1998

Below is the three part magazines of UFO Magazine and Phenomenon Report in free downloadable PDF format mentioned in the above vid….that tells the story of Zodiac….and CIA Operative Sedge Masters (pseudonym?).

I highly suggest you download it for your own copy…….no telling if it may be scrubbed from the www someday.

ZODIAC UFO Magazine

Am I satisfied that Zodiac is the real name of a UFO retrieval program? and has always been around?

It’s better than having no name at all….I suppose.

It also appears that Lou somewhat acknowledged knowing of it….in an q&a with Dolan



There’s also this….



And this…..



The jury is out for me….

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Everything gets rebunked in ufology eventually doesn't it?

This one is a fictional story posited as "largely unverified, but that doesn't mean it's not true." involving UFO crash retrievals and alien bodies.

It was penned by Greg Halifax and serialized in 3 or 4 issues of UFO Magazine in the late 90s.

Then mentioned in the infamous 1999 "Alien Autopsy Memo" because Hal Puthoff thought it "might" be true.

It also might be true that top secret project code names are leaked in fictional stories serialized in UFO magazines.

originally posted by: mirageman

It was penned by Greg Halifax

Who according to a few randon social media posts is actually Jefferey W. Griffith who may or may not have made the comment on the bottom of this article and is supposedly mentioned in the Wilson Davis memo (I haven't checked that yet) and was the attorney for Mary Elizabeth Ellis, who I don't know anything about but maybe someone can link some dots ?

Not really many dots to link....Ellis is an alleged RV'er who went to Wright Patt. and is mentioned in the none proven Wilson Davis memo.

"Zodiac" (due to its age) has been considered on various occasions by Secret Projects chasers and confidence was always low.

One person who probably should know commented that "Zodiac" (as a project/operation name) almost certainly wouldn't meet the required naming conventions of a secret project/operation from the suggested era.

A single word, non numeric ultra secret project name starting with a Z that is "Zodiac" does seem a bit guessable/obvious TBF.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

MJ-12 or Zodiac, I wonder what MJ might be and the 12, the 12 constellations within the Zodiac, but then we can't forget Ophiuchus (your name sake).

A while back I happened upon the name Zodiac and tried every logical UFO site and/or research database I was aware of (not many because I came into this game late) and found nothing at all. I wonder if MJ-12 might get hits, or just searching for the constellation names, including Ophiuchus?

a reply to: chunder

As I read the Wilson memo…..in part there is an unnamed “The Program”

Perhaps this is ZODIAC

“The Program” is being run by an unnamed top notched Aerospace company.

Wilson spoke with person’s from that Aerospace company…….one person, being a corporate attorney.

The corporate attorneys name is ….according to the Wilson memo is…..”Jefferey W. Griffith”.

Is this who’s pseudonym is Greg Halifax? author of the UFO Magazine article….mentioning ZODIAC.

At least that’s what I’m interpreting so far…..

‘Chunder’…. How did you make a connection to Jefferey W. Griffith from Greg Halifax?

Also…below is the comment by Jeff Griffith mentioned by ‘Chunder’



I guess one could try to tie in Jeff Griffith and Jeffery W. Griffith as one and the same person residing at Newport Beach, California

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a reply to: quintessentone

If it weren’t for those damn Babylonian’s…….Ophiuchus would be the 13th sign.

Which if you think about it….13 is a more mystical number than 12….imo.

Damn It!!! I want my sign back

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: quintessentone

If it weren’t for those damn Babylonian’s…….Ophiuchus would be the 13th sign.

Which if you think about it….13 is a more mystical number than 12….imo.

Damn It!!! I want my sign back

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Pronounced "oh-few-cus" and also named serpentarius. Yes, having Ophiuchus as the 13th sign might explain why my zodiac sign really doesn't align very well with my traits, in that, if every sign merges with it's two other neighbors then a horoscope reading would certainly need to be extremely complex when aligning the heavenly bodies of three constellations.

Anyway, the program Zodiac or MJ-12, can't mean the 12 retrieved crafts because the name was given before all 12 crafts were retrieved, isn't that correct?

Also I was on a coral hunt from that other thread and it appears brain coral, which grows very large, can be found in Pacific Ocean waters and coral poaching is a thing, so who knows.

So far….down the rabbit hole is this….



Irvine CA is within commuter distance to Newport Beach CA…

I guess ….tracking Jeffery to an Aerospace Company would be next.

If an Aerospace company can be connected to Jeffery….then more than likely …..that Aerospace company is the Gate Keeper of “The Program” ala ZODIAC?

UPDATE….Apparently Jeffery was (still is?) a corporate lawyer for Hughes Aircraft Company at one time….



That company was also owned by weirdo Howard Hughes

That’s interesting….

Even more interesting is this…..



Is Raytheon or Boeing the current Gate Keeper of “The Program” ala ZODIAC ??? Where perhaps Hughes Aircraft used to be.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Is Boeing the current Gate Keeper of “The Program” ala ZODIAC ??? Where perhaps Hughs Aircraft used to be.

If their space tech is anything to go on, then 'no'.

www.boeing.com...

a reply to: quintessentone

Q…..There’s what the public sees….and what the public doesn’t see.

I wouldn’t count Boeing out as easily as you would …

Any aerospace company that might have SAP’s would never have any information of the SAPs on a general public consumption website.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: quintessentone

Q…..There’s what the public sees….and what the public doesn’t see.

I wouldn’t count Boeing out as easily as you would …

Any aerospace company that might have SAP’s would never have any information of the SAPs on a general public consumption website.

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I knew you were going to say that.

a reply to: quintessentone

Upon further review……



…..throw G.M. and Raytheon in the mix….since in 1997 Hughes via GM was merged into Raytheon……and other parts of Hughes went to Boeing in 2000.

So now…..GM Defense and or Raytheon and or Boeing are suspect for being ‘The Program’ Gate Keepers of ZODIAC….imo.

Starting to look like 3 card Monty…..or the Shell Game.



Btw…..who would suspect G.M. ??? that has a division named G.M. Defense??

G.M. Defense has to do with Military mobility……..in a SAP, UFO’s would be mobility….mobility in the air….Hmmmm

For now…… as circumstantial as it may be……I’m going with ZODIAC as the ongoing program name for an ongoing UFO recovery and retrieval program….until something says different.

As far as which company is the Gate Keeper of “The Program” ZODIAC ….. It’s a craps shoot.

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There is a blog on this : Zodiac

It details the story (and it is a story). Leaning heavily on quotes from Forbiiden Science 5 by Jacques Valllee.

A conversation between Hal Puthoff, Dr. Eric W. Davis and Jacques Vallee.

"The first topic concerned the revelation of a former TRW employee. An attorney friend of hers has gathered her testimony. She was part of a secret reverse-engineering project called Zodiac. Eric has compiled his own file, but it doesn't lead to the verifiable, hard facts we need."

FS5 page 77 3 March 2001

Meeting of nine people at Joe Firmage's place.

"Eric Davis retold the story of Zodiac, which involves real people like Jerry Rosenberg, currently at IDA and Dale Graf, who was part of the remote viewing experiments at Wright-Patterson. Eric has been told there are ten Velobind volumes at Wright-Pat with Roswell data concerning the two crashed 'Mantra Ray' shaped craft, recovered bodies, foil-type material, and a special study by TRW."

However ultimately the intrepid Frenchman concludes...

All in all, we still have no definitive proof that there was an entity named "Zodiac" - either as a cover-up group or as a crash retrieval program. I come back to Vallee's 8 May 2000 statement:

"Eric has complied his own file, but it doesn't lead to the verifiable, hard facts we need."

Which is the story of ufology in a nutshell. Big on story, little in the way of proof.

a reply to: mirageman

Unless I’m not seeing it….it seems to me prior to the publication of the 1998 three part story……there’s no other mention of “ZODIAC” as a program name for a UFO recovery and retrieval program.

Perhaps prior, even decades back…it was simply known as “The Program” as mentioned in the Wilson memo. Generic, and yet nameless, so it would not draw attention.

For the purposes of the article….ZODIAC may have been fictitious for the intrigue elements of the story.

But since then, it has morphed into the mythos of raising suspicion into an actual program name.

Fictitiously or not….it makes for a good fictitious or not …program name.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

There's a mention in the MJ-12 documents : majesticdocuments.com...

"The group has been called by many names. The most recent one was used in 1992 and was identified by the name JEHOVAH. At one time it was called ZODIAC and may have changed in 1995."

However, aside from the fact that the MJ-12 documents are considered fake due to various discrepancies contained in them, this document is dated 7th July 1999.

I think this story is little more than Scientologist Hal's hopeful imagination trying to make fiction into fact. It sounds like a script for the X-Files

The military will have some form of "crash retrieval" team. But this would be geared towards capturing adversarial technology (such as satellite or rocket parts and even balloons!) and protecting US and allied aerospace technology that could fall into the wrong hands.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

‘Chunder’…. How did you make a connection to Jefferey W. Griffith from Greg Halifax?

Just googled Greg Halifax author and came across a random post (Twitter I think) that said his real name was JWG - will re-find it and link it when I get a minute.

a reply to: quintessentone

Project Aquarius should ring a few bells !

originally posted by: chunder

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

‘Chunder’…. How did you make a connection to Jefferey W. Griffith from Greg Halifax?

Just googled Greg Halifax author and came across a random post (Twitter I think) that said his real name was JWG - will re-find it and link it when I get a minute.

Very interesting, thanks.

Project Aquarius starts at pdf page 14.

Within that project is Project Sigma, separate project since 1974, communication with aliens.

Project Snowbird: test fly recovered alien craft.

Project Pounce? continue to evaluate all information pertaining to space tech.

www.reaganlibrary.gov...

More project names:

www.exopaedia.org...

www.exopaedia.org...

www.exopaedia.org...

www.exopaedia.org...

Serpo or planet Seinu (planet circling two suns in Zeta consellation), aliens living there are named Eben...("It is not clear, however, whether this would be their name, or whether the expression is used in a generic way to refer to Extraterrestrial Biological entities.")

www.exopaedia.org...

One rabbit hole after another (the link below is attributed to Simon Gray, ATS):

www.cs.mcgill.ca...

originally posted by: chunder

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

‘Chunder’…. How did you make a connection to Jefferey W. Griffith from Greg Halifax?

Just googled Greg Halifax author and came across a random post (Twitter I think) that said his real name was JWG - will re-find it and link it when I get a minute.

This one?



I tried backtracking milkywayspiritbeing……but unfortunately they closed the account…..maybe he got to close…to something??

milkywayspiritbeing

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