The Secret Life Of Grays

Here ya go KLOKKO, the thread I promised on the Grays.

Note. I originally considered the Gray Forum as the appropriate place for a thread on grays rather than the UFO forum. However if what is presented here assists to break the myth that the grays are aliens, demonic, and/or from outer space then I guess this is the appropriate place.

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The idea of summoning UFOs is not new to ATS, members here have been successful in the past. Generally encounters have a supernatural aspect to them. Time distortions, disappearances, strange Beings and so on.

When dealing with the supernatural, most people are at a distinct disadvantage. Few people see the poltergeist for example, they see only the moving objects or feel the chill in the air. That is the problem; we only see the effects and not the cause. Something very important is missing and that is the causative agent.

So in encounters with the supernatural aspects what we do not see is more important than what we do see.

Over on the members only RATS (Really Above Top Secret) forum there is a recent thread about establishing a CE5 (Close Encounter of the Fifth kind) location. A photograph of the location was posted. The photograph itself was of a simple clearing surrounded by trees. The idea is to invite the "aliens" to visit.

So what was waiting unseen at that clearing, and at most other CE5 locations for that matter? No one asked me on the RATS thread, so I will explain it here. What was there is best described as infrastructure and the Being who built it. But to understand we must step into the unseen side of the supernatural. As I said; what we do not see is more important than what we do see. Some of us here on ATS can 'see' these things.

What was waiting unseen at the CE5 location in the RATS thread were the grays. It is worth mentioning at this point that in the occult metaphysical literature, the Being illustrated below may be considered a Nature Spirit or perhaps an archytype Spiritual Being. Though I think she is far more than that.

ATS, meet Melissa.

(Image source: me, drawn by my daughter from my description. The illustration above shows the torso of a classical gray above a flower form. The colour is lavender over a black background.)

Melissa's position in the CE5 location sits about 30 meters/yards above the ground. Her height is perhaps 10 meters/yards tall. Melissa is the Being who builds the unseen infrastructure for the CE5 encounter. She creates and controls.

I will talk of Melissa further on, but for now I will describe the ordinarily unseen infrastructure of the CE5 location.

(Image source: me, drawn by my daughter from my description. The illustration above shows a flat yellow disk with upturned edges with a central column rising from the centre. The colour is sulphur yellow over a black background.)

What one initially saw arising out of the black void was a bright yellow flat disk with upraised edges. From the centre arose a bright yellow collumn with a large ovoid on top. This is enclosed in a faint dome shell that probably extends below ground to complete a sphere. The size, I am informed, is about 100 meters/yards across for the disk. So a sphere of influence of that size, within which contact takes place. 100 meters/yards is the initial dimension from which I estimated other dimensions of size. One would say the CE5 location is a circular area 100 meters/yards across and 50 meters/yards tall.

When observing these encounters one has to have patience and allow it resolve itself. The first to resolve was the disk with upturned edges. Once this was understood the collumn appeared with the ovoid atop. Then we notice that this is enclosed in a faint dome.

To understand what this means, we need to think in terms of the language of appearances. To put this another way; (fluid) appearance is a language. We can be reasonably sure that we must understand the meaning here, afterall the purpose of the location is communication.

The disk with upturned edges is the giant Amazon water lilly leaf. The collumn with the ovoid atop is the morrel mushroom. Melissa sits within the spore body of the morrel mushroom.

(Image source: wikimedia: public domain. The giant Amazon water lilly.)

(Image source wikimedia: public domain. Morrel mushroom.)

Can you see it now?

The entire CE5 location is alive. It is created by the will of the Being we are calling Melissa. When one understands what we 'see' at the CE5 location, what we have is the plant form arising from the water, and arising from the centre of that is the fungi. Within the fungi is to be found the gray. All this arises from below.

So we have the water lilly leaf as the ground upon which we stand surrounded by a sphere of influence under someone else's psychic-spiritual control.

In exactly the same way the column with the ovoid atop resolves into the morrel mushroom abiet with a much longer stem. What one needs to understand here is the mushroom is a fungi. The body we see above the ground is visible to the human eye, yet we do not see the vast network of threads and consciousness below ground that is the mushroom proper.

Now we come to the name of Melissa. It was when the gray and I were gazing into each other's eyes that I wondered what name I should call "it" by, and the name Mellisa was spoken in my mind. So we look up the meaning of the word as a part of translating the encounter.

Melissa is a female given name. The name comes from the Greek word μέλισσα (mélissa), "bee", which in turn comes from μέλι (meli), "honey". In Hittite, melit signifies "honey".
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Melissa was a nymph who discovered and taught the use of honey and from whom bees were believed to have received their name. She was one of the nymph nurses of Zeus, sister to Amaltheia, but rather than feeding the baby milk, Melissa, appropriately for her name, fed him honey. Or, alternatively, the bees brought honey straight to his mouth. Because of her, Melissa became the name of all the nymphs who cared for the patriarch god as a baby.

Source: Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org...

So "Melissa" means "bee".

Grays, in this regard, I now consider to be the spiritual psychic (at least) aspect of the bees. One of the so-called "insectoids" of the UFO lore.

It is worth considering that the insects have been here on earth far longer than humans. If humans took a hundred thousand years to develop the human spiritual aspect, then just think what could be achieved in 60 million.

The oldest known flying insects appeared during the mid-Carboniferous, around 328–324 million years ago, and the group subsequently underwent a rapid explosive diversification.

The remarkably successful Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, and ants) appeared as long as 200 million years ago in the Triassic period, but achieved their wide diversity more recently in the Cenozoic era, which began 66 million years ago. Some highly successful insect groups evolved in conjunction with flowering plants, a powerful illustration of coevolution.

Source: Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org...
Bolding is mine.

"Coevolution" is what I saw in the contact CE5 encounter. The flowering plant, fungi, and the bees, as well as the aetheric astral spiritual aspects.

So if we were to sum up the nature of the encounter, the gray (Melissa) was giving a simple confirmation to something I have suspected for some time: That the grays are highly advanced bees.

That a gray gives the name "Melissa" is not the only confirmation of the grays being bees I have had. A separate encounter a few years ago with another gray was my first introduction to a deeper understanding of the grays. I call her Wednesday for my own reasons and have written of her before here on ATS.

The encounter was also a simple one. Whilst putting out my rubbish bin one evening, one got the sense of moving lights. I was reminded of a scene from the movie 'Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind'; the scene on the mountaintop before the mothership arrives. Then a yellow gray floating in front of me with the opening line of "we are all one". The gray then floated up to my face and looked into my eyes. Very much like the movie 'The Abyss' where the "alien" looks at the dying diver through the visor for the moment of "oneness". We talked briefly and I dismissed that event.

So two different events with the same basic infrastucture to create the supernatural event. The creation of the location under the psychic control of the grays.

Wednesday, though initially dismissed, returned a while later and we worked out a relationship which is still ongoing from time to time. We actually had a lot of fun interacting, most of which was RV'ing (Remote Viewing) locations and things the grays did not have access too. This says to me that the gray hive minds are networked hive minds rather than the newage and spiritualist's concept of "everything is one". Wednesday's opening statement of "we are all one" was designed more I suspect, to gain internal access to my mind.

Wednesday also taught me about herself. She introduced herself as a bio-engineer. Her internal anatomy is interesting. Unlike a human, Wednesday's gastro-intestinal system stops at the stomach, no intestines. She can disassemble and reassemble the building blocks of life in that stomach and spit up designer proteins into your hands. Just like the honey bee does in the hive.

The first real confirmation that grays are essentially very intellegent bees came with a technique I developed and use to explore consciousness. I can explain the technique here if anyone asks. Suffice it to say; a human or non-human consciousness can be taken into one's own Being internally.

It was when using that technique with Wednesday within myself that she shed her 'avatar'. Wednesday is more than just one bee in that avatar. The latest encounter with Melissa simply confirmed what I already knew but did not consciously understand.

So really, the idea that the grays are demons is simply not true. The grays are first of all highly evolved insect life akin to the fae, fairies and other classical Beings of of the so-called "mythologies" and the spirit life of the earth.

In conclusion I will simply say: When doing these things one needs to be prepared. To my mind, the most important of which is to leave all of one's cultural influences and preconceptions behind. One should also expect that what is there knows a lot about you, and you know nothing of it. Nor should one have any preconception of what is about to occur. Otherwise one will panic when things do not go as expected, and they generally will.

I hope this gives the reader some food for contemplation, and maybe the realisation that the ordinarily unseen world is very close to the physical. So close it can reach out and touch us. The Phenomenon is not something "out there", we actually have our being and live within it. Perhaps we have simply forgotten - our logic and intellect blinds us to what is right in front of us.

Melissa=Honey Bee 🐝

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Melissa=Honey Bee

Aye that is what they are. At the time I thought it an odd thing to hear - a girl's name, it did not fit the situation. So one looked up the meaning.

One should keep in mind that bees come in many different varieties; honey bees, solitary bumble bees, tiny Australian stingless bees and the American "killer bees".

I would keep in mind the varieties of grays may reflect the varieties of bees. So too the structure of their societies.

Still, to get just this far in my study, it took quite a few years of interacting with something that is very aloof and difficult to find when it does not want to be found.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Interesting lay out...

The Ophiocordyceps unilateralis shroom controls insects, might be a scenario worth considering in some cases.

a reply to: Terpene

Now, now, be nice Terpene.

That aside I would think that a pathogenic fungi might kill physical insects, yet just make the higher level consciousnesses angry. There are already domesticated honey bee colony problems apart from disease.

Rudolf Stiener had a few things to say about bees and the important role in the Household of Nature. His nine lectures can be found as a single PDF file here: Steiner nine lectures on bees

If one is interested in the nature of grays, Stiener's lectures would contain insights.

Here is an interesting correspondance to consider.

The grays are said to have began to be interested in humans around the time of the Betty and Barney Hill encounter around 1961.

Stiener spoke of problems emerging in bee keeping in 80 to 100 years back in 1923 at Dornach. That we see 'brood collapse' globally threatening the honey industry now is perhaps a sign of what Steiner spoke about from his Anthroposophical perspective. We also have the emergence and adoption of modern chemical agriculture affecting insect and other life globally.

Might this perhaps have a correspondence with the arrival of the grays?

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

have I ever not been nice?

I'm just considering the assumption that all manifested things have their analogy in the unseen world. And it's the thought that crossed my mind, considering bees and shrooms.

I think you draw some very interesting comparisons, that make sense to me. I've long suspected that the spiritual evolution is not reserved to humans, and is only time-dependent.
At some point, every species might take this step out of his body into an unseen world, given they don't go the way of the dodo before...

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Neat thread.

I would also like to see the thread about MiBs you considered. I hadn't thought of them as 'gatekeepers', but there is a certain logic to that idea.

Cheers

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268


"Note. I originally considered the Gray Forum as the appropriate place for a thread on grays rather than the UFO forum. However if what is presented here assists to break the myth that the grays are aliens, demonic, and/or from outer space then I guess this is the appropriate place.'

I am at a loss for words. The abandonment of ATS by those "...not wanting to really believe in alien UFOs...." type of members is readily apparent now that governments are seemingly starting to take the phenomena seriously. But to flip-flop into fairly land is defying stark reality. Ignoring the countless reports of greys involved in the "medical exams" during abductions, them scurrying around landed UFOs seemingly to repair their craft or to gather vegetation in boldly apparent efforts to instruct us formerly clueless humans is insane.

No doubt we have a skewed perception of reality about how the universe operates. We know nothing about time, mental capabilities and our own abilities, but the evidence we do have about greys is fairly plain. Now, I'll grant that we are visited by perhaps thousands of alien ships and apparitions that continually come to sample our development. We have the nazi-like greys and more compassionate types dealing with hybrids, for example. These scenarios are what they present to us and we internalize to each his own. Maybe truths are therein, maybe flat falsehoods to serve some purpose we cannot fathom at present. But fairly-like types dancing in a wooded clearing, I think not.

a reply to: Terpene

have I ever not been nice?

Of course not Terpene . . .

The Ophiocordyceps unilateralis shroom controls insects, might be a scenario worth considering in some cases.

(hmmm . . . : )

I've long suspected that the spiritual evolution is not reserved to humans, and is only time-dependent.
At some point, every species might take this step out of his body into an unseen world, given they don't go the way of the dodo before...

Aye, what is written and taught about spirtuality is rather human-centric. Even the theosophical puts humans on equal footing as a parallel evolution to the Nature Beings. Stiener had his ascended masters too by the way. He does have some valuable insights into Nature and how it works in this world.

I would think that the human individuality as structure of mind, is just one of many configurations existing. That grays are said to have the 'hive minds' in UFO lore is confirmed for me.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Thanks F2d5thCavv2.

I would also like to see the thread about MiBs you considered. I hadn't thought of them as 'gatekeepers', but there is a certain logic to that idea.

I am not sure I know enough about them except I get kicked about on occassion when snooping in the wrong places. In hindsight, getting to the point of writing this thread about the grays was circumstantially and coincidentally very difficult. Like getting caught in crossfire.

Four days ago (Saturday) I was in the garden getting the fruit trees ready for spring and was overtaken by anger from where I do not know. That wore me out quickly, and next day my back was out and it took over half an hour just to get out of bed. Two days off work and I am starting to feel better today coincidentally after finally finishing the OP for this thread.

So I am half wondering who exactly put out my back and created the time to write this.

Very awesome thread! Mind is blown.

I dont think I will be looking at anything out on my bike ride this morning on our greenbelt quite the same. All the living beings I encounter, plant, animal and fungi will have a newly discovered dazzling facet to ponder. For a long while. My ride ends at the beach. I wish I could just keep riding and see what my new eyes see.

And my complements for your daughters illustrations.

Thank you for sharing this! 100%

a reply to: Observer19

I sorta feel like until someone drags a grey rotting corpse out for us all to see, along with indepth analysis of their DNA (if they have any) and or inside 'parts'.

Nobody knows what or who and wherefrom they are. Anyone's speculation is as good as any others.

My thought is that the medical exams remembered under hypnosis is common because since babies, we have been seeing doctors with only eyes (masked) looking at us, on a table, with bright light and scary instruments.

There is plenty of room for ALL theories. Man has been interacting with fairy folk since the beginning as well.

a reply to: Observer19

G'day Observer19.

YA know the 'grays' in the 'gray forum' pun was not exactly unintentional . Yet I was reluctant to actually post this in the 'Aliens and UFOs" because of my conclusions.

Consider that I have a very small sample pool to base my research upon, and have to go with that rather than fit what I experience within the existing UFO lore knowledge base. There are some very small grays about two feet tall (60cm) with huge oval eyes like sand-blasted metal. I hope to study those in the very near future.

I guess the American government has it's own reasons for admitting the existance of UFOs. The admission of the big red triangle hovering over launch facilities at Vandenburg air base caught my attention. I was interested in the behaviour of swooping the guards. One might call that a Close Encounter location.

The problem is, for me at least, is ethics and the fact that that is a military airbase. So I can't go snooping there. I can however deduce that the football field sized UFO was interested in something in particular and it took the fourty-five seconds to achieve what it wanted. Anything more I cannot say because I was not there at the time.

Ignoring the countless reports of greys involved in the "medical exams" during abductions, them scurrying around landed UFOs seemingly to repair their craft or to gather vegetation in boldly apparent efforts to instruct us formerly clueless humans is insane.

I'll tell you about my first encounter with the grays.

That was back in the 1960s when I was five. One night I awoke with my bed a meter (yard) off the floor and being tipped from side to side and tossed in the air. When I was terrified and screaming a vortex of stars opened to the left of the bed and I was tipped into there.

A rather large gray said to me as a command: "You will not remember what happens next".

So I know from first hand experience about these things, and yes, creating lasting trauma is a part of the experience.

I have also met the long neck grays that can disassmble and reassemble matter in a similar way to the four foot tall one who does the bio-engineering. The long necks tried to show me the physics but I flunked at the first question; "what is left if the particles are not there?"

So I don't dismiss the technology side of the question, nor that some are possibly working with humans. Come to think of it I have done so with the bio-engineer myself.

Nevertheless, I will pose the question; what is the structure of the alien mind in question? There are a lot of them out there. I can only write of the ones I have met.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Thanks for the kind post CoyoteAngels, I too look at Nature in a different way these days.

And my daughter said "awesome" with a smile at the compliment.

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My thought is that the medical exams remembered under hypnosis is common because since babies, we have been seeing doctors with only eyes (masked) looking at us, on a table, with bright light and scary instruments.

Wow, that never occured to me. Thankyou for the insight!

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

I had that insight first person when my baby girl was only around a year old and had a kidney infection. They did a horrible test on her with a catheter in a dimly lit exray lab with only the doctors / nurses headlamp light was visible. They had me in the room to keep her calm. And had dosed her with benedryl to make her foggy. It was horrible, she fought them. She did not want that xray of her urinary track. Seeing it thru her infant eyes, knowing her subconscious was taking it ALL in. I knew exactly what might happen in hypnosis 30 years forward. I was shaken by the experience, too. Would not have let them do it, had I to make that decision again... but kidney damage is life threatening. I just would have insisted on heavier anesthisea. But they need them awake so that they can potty, as that is when the xray takes place, to see if there is reflux from the bladder to the kidney when under the pressure of voiding.

How many people have had similarly bad procedures done on them as wee babes? Millions.

Im a fine arts major in my second time at college, now retired from IT. Tell your daughter my 'sort of trained' eye is saying, keep drawing, keep painting, keep taking photos, do sculpture, ceramics, photoshop (its a required skill now), try it all. And to not forget the Art History requirements in school. They will only help her develop her own POV. She has great vision!

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Thank you NS!

So the Grays are terrestrial, yet inter dimensional, if I’m following correctly?

This has been where my research has taken me as well. I’ve also heard that they are possibly guardians of the astral realms, or that’s here they reside.

Interestingly, I’ve only had one experience (I think) with them. I was sleeping and woke up briefly in the middle of the night to see a 3-4 foot tall one just several feet away from my bed. It was brief, and as my eyes adjusted to the darkness, it disappeared. It was an unsettling encounter. I really wanted to go back to sleep and act like it didn’t happen. This happened in the winter of 2014 in Austin Texas.

I am not sure if they are exactly bees... but they certainly think and act very similar. And I agree that they could be native to this planet, not extra-terrestrial, and I doubt they are demons.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Oh no, poor mom and daughter : (

Aye, when one thinks about the experience through the eyes of a child, it would be traumatic.

And when one takes into account there may be a few traumas in the first seven years of life, one must question the hypnotic approach as you're pointing out.

I know there are traumas that can be most likely be associated with the grays. My understanding is they use trauma as a tool in some cases.

Yet as a hypnotist, let's say a person has five childhood traumas, how does the hypnotist know exactly how many traums there are to begin with hidden in the subconscious?

The hynotist would need to know how many in order to isolate the correct trauma.

I think that is a really good point you have brought to the thread CoyoteAngels.

a reply to: NewNobodySpecial268

Not sure I followed that but repeat medical procedures could be repeat trauma? I had to be in an oxygen tent in the hospital around 3 and I still remember how weird it was inside. but it wasn't traumatic, kinda fun pretending.

But that wasn't invasive. I could see a strange cocoon memory moist hot and dimly lit.