The Laws of Physics support Intelligent Design

Why do we have laws?

The purpose of law is to bring order to chaos. The reason we have laws in this Country is to bring order to society. One of the longest running shows on TV is Law&Order. These two things go hand in hand.

So when you look at the universe, you see order. It amazes me how non-believers will try to argue that there's no order in the Cosmos. You see planets, solar systems, galaxies and more. You see fined tuned constants of nature like the Cosmological Constant and the dimensionless fine structure constant. How can you look at a sunset, clouds, trees, oceans or a mountain side and not see the order produced by laws?

In Genesis 1 it says:

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

God brought order to chaos. He instituted laws that Scientists discover.

Let's look at quantum mechanics. When you look at these things, you see specific instructions to build a quantum computer. There's clear purposeful design in quantum mechanics.

With quantum superposition, you can process quantum information and encode qubits on superimposed states.

Quantum computers, on the other hand, use qubits, which are typically subatomic particles such as electrons or photons. Generating and managing qubits is a scientific and engineering challenge. Some companies, such as IBM, Google, and Rigetti Computing, use superconducting circuits cooled to temperatures colder than deep space. Others, like IonQ, trap individual atoms in electromagnetic fields on a silicon chip in ultra-high-vacuum chambers. In both cases, the goal is to isolate the qubits in a controlled quantum state.

Qubits have some quirky quantum properties that mean a connected group of them can provide way more processing power than the same number of binary bits. One of those properties is known as superposition and another is called entanglement.

What is superposition?

Qubits can represent numerous possible combinations of 1 and 0 at the same time. This ability to simultaneously be in multiple states is called superposition. To put qubits into superposition, researchers manipulate them using precision lasers or microwave beams.
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With quantum entanglement, you can correlate quantum information and build quantum error correcting codes in quantum computers.

How Space and Time Could Be a Quantum Error-Correcting Code

The same codes needed to thwart errors in quantum computers may also give the fabric of space-time its intrinsic robustness.

So, how do quantum error-correcting codes work? The trick to protecting information in jittery qubits is to store it not in individual qubits, but in patterns of entanglement among many.

www.quantamagazine.org...

With quantum tunneling it's used for quantum gates in quantum computers.

Single Qubit Quantum Gates using Quantum Tunnelling Devices

Abstract

This article discusses the mathematics behind the Quantum Gates as applied to the Quansistor and also some standard single qubit Quantum gates like Hadamard gate, Pauli X and Pauli Z gates. Quansistors use quantum tunneling probability of electron (say) to jump over a thin non conducting layer to define the state of a qubit. An electron passing through a Quansistor represents something like a qubit. Some edits made in the version.

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With quantum teleportation, you can transfer quantum information in quantum computers and build a quantum internet.

‘Quantum Internet’ Inches Closer With Advance in Data Teleportation
www.nytimes.com...

This is clear Intelligent Design. The universe is designed to store, transfer, process and manipulate quantum information. You even have Physicist saying spacetime is a quantum error correcting code!

Is Spacetime A Quantum Code?
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This rules are so precise, you have Scientist saying the universe is a quantum computer.

The universe as quantum computer
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Science says outside of Black Holes quantum gates can form.

Spacetime manipulation of quantum information around rotating black holes

The X-ray photons emitted by the accretion disks around rotating black holes are polarized and acquire orbital angular momentum, two degrees of freedom that can encode quantum information. Nevertheless, escaping the accretion disk, photons are passing throughout the extreme warped and twisted spacetime near spinning black holes suffering rotations of polarization angle and changes in the orbital angular moment. We conjecture that these changes in the angle of polarization and orbital angular momentum can implement elementary quantum gates and simple quantum circuits. Consequently, when detected by an asymptotic observer, the photons emitted near rotating black holes encode quantum information that can be measured by actual quantum information technology.
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When objects fall into a black hole, the quantum information is encoded on the 2D event horizon of a black hole and can be decoded with a powerful enough quantum computer.

Black holes store information as holograms at the event horizon, says Stephen Hawking

Nothing can escape a black hole, not even light, any scientists schooled in modern physics will tell you. Eminent British physicists, Stephen Hawking, suggests however that information is still retained at the boundary of black holes, known as the event horizon.
www.zmescience.com...

Here's one more:

It's Logical That Aliens Are Using Black Holes As Computers, Scientists Say
www.popularmechanics.com...

So there's a clear purpose for the design of the universe. It's to process, store, transfer and manipulate quantum information which allows us to build quantum and classical computers because we have the breath of life from God which gives us understanding of these things.

Black holes do eventually fizzle into nothing.....

Black hole evaporation

All the best

Instead of "black hole" use the term Planck Star .
Does away with the fantasy of the name , and no need for the headaches of "singularity" and "infinity" .
The "hologram" is just a representation of the object at the Planck time that the object crossed the event horizon .
The object itself was pulled in at the speed of light , thus time stopped for the object from an outside observer's point of view, and not the object itself . Nothing magical there , either.

Thus adding even more order from chaos and staying within the laws of physics .

a reply to: neoholographic

that's such a leap, how can you not see what a leap that is?
It doesn't say what you think it says. The universe as quantum computer is our current avant garde interpretation of what might be.
We don't have conclusive proof that it is true and even if we did there's still nothing that says intelligent design.

So there's a clear purpose for the design of the universe. It's to process, store, transfer and manipulate quantum information which allows us to build quantum and classical computers because we have the breath of life from God which gives us understanding of these things.

that doesn't make sense. Do you even notice that you say: God created humans so we can build computers?
If the universe is already the most avanced quantum computer, there is absolutely no need for us, or that we become God's IT department.

Would someone please get the hook and put this back on the quackpot board. Thank you.

The law of the US Constitution has upheld this country for almost 250 years, it was contrived by intelligent people who wanted to create and persist the United States.

Similarly, The laws of physics have constituted all matter and upheld the existence of everything since the beginning of time, it was contrived by an intelligent super-being who wants to create and persist living souls.

No good laws ever came to be without intelligence.

originally posted by: neoholographic
So when you look at the universe, you see order. It amazes me how non-believers will try to argue that there's no order in the Cosmos.

This is a completely absurd strawman claim, completely opposite of reality.

Physicists have uncovered certain "laws of nature" that they tell us about which do bring order to the universe by virtue of the fact that what we observe in nature generally follows these laws.

The logic in the rest of your post is also flawed. For example:

So there's a clear purpose for the design of the universe. It's to process, store, transfer and manipulate quantum information which allows us to build quantum and classical computers because we have the breath of life from God which gives us understanding of these things.

That doesn't make any sense at all, since for almost all on mankind's existence on Earth, we have been unable to build quantum computers.

originally posted by: cooperton
The law of the US Constitution has upheld this country for almost 250 years, it was contrived by intelligent people who wanted to create and persist the United States.

Similarly, The laws of physics have constituted all matter and upheld the existence of everything since the beginning of time, it was contrived by an intelligent super-being who wants to create and persist living souls.

No good laws ever came to be without intelligence.

Excellent post and this is exactly right!

a reply to: Arbitrageur

You said:

That doesn't make any sense at all, since for almost all on mankind's existence on Earth, we have been unable to build quantum computers.

WHAT????? This is just wrong!

IBM announces the world's fastest quantum computer with 433 qubits
interestingengineering.com...

Google Quantum Computer Is '47 Years' Faster Than #1 Supercomputer
www.sciencealert.com...

Google Quantum Computer Is So Fast It’s Scary
www.giantfreakinrobot.com...

China's Built World's Fastest Quantum Computer, 10 Million Times Faster Than Google's(old article 2021)
www.indiatimes.com...

How To Run Code On A Real Quantum Computer

Quantum computers are not science fiction anymore. They exist. And we can use them — for free. For instance, IBM offers access to their cloud-based quantum computers.
towardsdatascience.com...

How do they look?







Again, the universe is designed for a specific purpose to process, store, transfer and manipulate quantum information. This allows us to manipulate information on a quantum and classical scale because we have the breath of life from God which gives us understanding of these things.

originally posted by: cooperton
The law of the US Constitution has upheld this country for almost 250 years, it was contrived by intelligent people who wanted to create and persist the United States.

Similarly, The laws of physics have constituted all matter and upheld the existence of everything since the beginning of time, it was contrived by an intelligent super-being who wants to create and persist living souls.

No good laws ever came to be without intelligence.

false equivalence

the us constitution defines the civic rights, autonomy, dignity of the republic and its citizens

the laws of physics define the behavior of objects in relation to space

intelligent design defines predetermination and quantam pseudo science yoking all sentient life to the uniparty wagon

originally posted by: cooperton
The law of the US Constitution has upheld this country for almost 250 years, it was contrived by intelligent people who wanted to create and persist the United States.

Similarly, The laws of physics have constituted all matter and upheld the existence of everything since the beginning of time, it was contrived by an intelligent super-being who wants to create and persist living souls.

No good laws ever came to be without intelligence.

Fine example of a False equivalence

originally posted by: SigmaXSquared


the us constitution defines the civic rights, autonomy, dignity of the republic and its citizens

the laws of physics define the behavior of objects in relation to space

The laws of the constitution define the allowed behaviors of people to others

The laws of the physical world define the allowed behaviors of particles to others

Obviously they are not exactly the same, but even if they're apples and oranges, they're both fruits that come from intelligence.

originally posted by: ErosA433

Fine

Still awaiting your response in the other thread

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: SigmaXSquared


the us constitution defines the civic rights, autonomy, dignity of the republic and its citizens

the laws of physics define the behavior of objects in relation to space

The laws of the constitution define the allowed behaviors of people to others

The laws of the physical world define the allowed behaviors of particles to others

originally posted by: ErosA433

Fine

Still awaiting your response in the other thread

Another ignorant response.

About the laws of physics:

By nature, laws of Physics are stated facts which have been deduced and derived based on empirical observations. Simply put, the world around us works in a certain way, and physical laws are a way of classifying that “working.”

Physical laws are just conclusions drawn based on years (or however long it takes) of scientific observations and experiments which are repeated over and over under different conditions to reach inferences which can be accepted worldwide. These are continuously validated by the scientific community over time.

Observation, empirical evidence, conclusions. No magic wand required.

originally posted by: Phantom423

By nature, laws of Physics are stated facts which have been deduced and derived based on empirical observations. Simply put, the world around us works in a certain way, and physical laws are a way of classifying that “working.”

Physical laws are just conclusions drawn based on years (or however long it takes) of scientific observations and experiments which are repeated over and over under different conditions to reach inferences which can be accepted worldwide. These are continuously validated by the scientific community over time.


Observation, empirical evidence, conclusions. No magic wand required.

I have no idea what your point is here, are you saying our empirical assertions about physics are more fundamental than the actual physics themselves? That's nonsense.

And no, it's not a magic wand, it's intelligent design bro lol. physics do not perpetuate unintelligently, that is for sure!

originally posted by: cooperton
I have no idea what your point is here, are you saying our empirical assertions about physics are more fundamental than the actual physics themselves? That's nonsense.

You have no idea what my point was, when I quoted the OP saying "So when you look at the universe, you see order. It amazes me how non-believers will try to argue that there's no order in the Cosmos."?

I don't know how you can not understand that reply correctly, unless you don't know what a strawman argument is.

A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

In this context, that means the OP has claimed something false about non-believers arguing there is no order in the cosmos. I'm refuting that claim by saying non-believers do not argue that. I didn't make any statement about what was more fundamental, and I don't understand how you could so badly misinterpret that discussion to think that's what I was saying.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

My response was to phantom, you were talking to neoholographic.

But I might as well chime in now, do you believe the cosmos are ordered?

a reply to: Quadlink

This short video is interesting..

"Nature by Numbers, A movie inspired on numbers, geometry and nature, by Cristóbal Vila"



LinkLINK


All the best

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: Phantom423

By nature, laws of Physics are stated facts which have been deduced and derived based on empirical observations. Simply put, the world around us works in a certain way, and physical laws are a way of classifying that “working.”

Physical laws are just conclusions drawn based on years (or however long it takes) of scientific observations and experiments which are repeated over and over under different conditions to reach inferences which can be accepted worldwide. These are continuously validated by the scientific community over time.


Observation, empirical evidence, conclusions. No magic wand required.

I have no idea what your point is here, are you saying our empirical assertions about physics are more fundamental than the actual physics themselves? That's nonsense.

And no, it's not a magic wand, it's intelligent design bro lol. physics do not perpetuate unintelligently, that is for sure!

Another ignorant post.

Empirical Evidence - when you've got some for your supernatural creature, be sure to let us know.

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. Scientists record and analyze this data. The process is a central part of the scientific method, leading to the proving or disproving of a hypothesis and our better understanding of the world as a result.

The scientific method - something you know nothing about because the rules don't apply to you.



I always need my inhaler after responding to your nonsense. At least I don't need a magic wand.

originally posted by: cooperton
a reply to: Arbitrageur

My response was to phantom, you were talking to neoholographic.

Oops, I see that now.

But I might as well chime in now, do you believe the cosmos are ordered?

Read this post. The physicists I mentioned are usually right, but it's science, so always subject to new evidence.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: SigmaXSquared


the us constitution defines the civic rights, autonomy, dignity of the republic and its citizens

the laws of physics define the behavior of objects in relation to space

The laws of the constitution define the allowed behaviors of people to others

The laws of the physical world define the allowed behaviors of particles to others

Obviously they are not exactly the same, but even if they're apples and oranges, they're both fruits that come from intelligence.

originally posted by: ErosA433

Fine

Still awaiting your response in the other thread

Ok but the laws of physics are abstract language

behavior is not numbers or words, writing numbers doent affect behavior of elements and chemistry as our constitution does

There are no amendment in physics, there is no intelligence in particles prior to measuring and recording and no change in behavior after

comparing apples with rocks and claiming the rock is edible 🤔 I guess the answer here is plant your fruit crop and not pray for minerals to be food because physics just don't work like that lol